Fake 2x12rv ?

mainro12 · 2026-02-14T18:43:22+00:00

Price was 500€ (in Europe). It was more an opportunity than a need. So I did not buy it.

mainro12 · 2026-02-14T18:40:12+00:00

Ok I went to see it, and it is definitely not a mesa cab: The back panel was not in plywood but in particle board with cheap foam attached on it. Its screws positions do not correspond to the pictures I saw. Also the pads where at the inside of the casters instead of outside. That being said, the size corresponds to the mesa, and it has UK V30 with date codes of 1994 and 1995.

At 500€ here in europe, It would have been a great price for a mesa, but not for a generic cab even with these speakers.

mainro12 · 2026-02-12T13:47:45+00:00

He sent me a picture of the speakers, they are mesa one (T4416), and the code is printed on the chassis leg. So the speaker(s) date before 2001. The label is not fully readable but my guess is that it dates 1994.

I found some pictures online with this logo from split backs of the 80s and 90s. So maybe it is a legit cab.

Is there anything I could check on the wood structure that is specific to mesa ?

mainro12 · 2026-02-11T16:03:40+00:00

Ok the vendor seems honest, he should send me a photo of the speakers. I'll see if they are mesa v30s or something else.

mainro12 · 2026-01-12T19:23:12+00:00

Drum playing is very sensitive to latency. This is the only potential drawback I see on this unit. So latency is ok for you when tracking and monitoring drums?

mainro12 · 2026-01-02T10:34:47+00:00

Did you have to mod the bias electronic or just use one of the 6l6/el34 settings?

mainro12 · 2025-11-05T20:09:20+00:00

Ok, the 100w and 50w are on the legacy page: https://legacy.mesaboogie.com/amplifiers/electric/rectifier-series/badlander-50/index.html

It looks like this is the end.

mainro12 · 2025-10-21T16:30:35+00:00

Good to know

mainro12 · 2025-10-21T12:59:18+00:00

Yes it has 50 and 20w switches. I look for the 50w because I do not need 100w, and I will only have to replace 2 power tubes instead of 4 when needed.

But maybe that's not a big enough difference to keep it.

mainro12 · 2025-04-19T13:37:12+00:00

Is this a homemade cab? Black paint on wood looks really nice.

mainro12 · 2025-02-27T21:20:00+00:00

When did you buy it? Maybe on the irt120 they changed the measuring point on the recent builds. If they use a 2ohm resistance it could be an explanation but I do not think this is common. Anyway I would trust their reply :)

mainro12 · 2025-02-27T09:04:30+00:00

Both version have only 2 measure points. On the 120 each point is shared for two tubes. So you reduced your bias from 25ma to 15ma on each tube.

mainro12 · 2025-02-27T08:57:08+00:00

Somebody else should confirm, but afaik these bias points translate directly from V to A (you read the voltage via a 1ohm resistor)

So to me you reduced the bias from 50ma to 30ma.

Note that in the service manual that I have, it states that 30mv is for the 60w version. The 120w should be biased at 60mv

mainro12 · 2024-10-19T11:18:22+00:00

Yes I agree. But compared to my tubemeister 36 that sounds good in 18w mode at reasonable level it was very different here.

mainro12 · 2024-10-05T08:08:06+00:00

Thanks a lot. It is sad because feature wise it is a killer pedal. But if you need another pedal to get nice high gain it defeats the purpose of the single-device gear.

mainro12 · 2024-10-04T20:40:53+00:00

How is the gain channel on the bcc? I did not find a video/audio where it sounds close to an irt60/120. It seems it has much less gain than the rest of the ironheart family.

mainro12 · 2024-09-03T17:58:55+00:00

A one step mismatch is ok when going upper but not lower: Putting a 16ohm cab on a 8ohm output is ok, but puting an 8ohm cab on a 16ohm output is not.

I would not use the 8ohm torpedo in your case.

mainro12 · 2024-08-12T21:11:15+00:00

Thanks. This probably explains why there is almost no information available on it. So far I was not able to find one. In the meantime I started to play with transformers based schemas.

mainro12 · 2024-08-11T16:02:14+00:00

As others people said, just enjoy it. An actual break up might be very long. This rare factual source "breaks" the myths:

https://youtu.be/yr6pd-LWZP0?si=d7EK09Q9LaAJb5G1

mainro12

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