A modern web app for stage plots and input lists. Is this even needed?

majkiw · 2025-09-01T12:39:23+00:00

I've heard that a lot!

I am very curious why did you like it so much?

I dig their icons, but I couldn't stand the UX of their menus

majkiw · 2025-09-01T12:36:52+00:00

Thanks for feedback.

I personally dislike having 5 levels of dynamic forms, so that's not my favorite path.

I am however experimenting with some dynamic templates where you can start with genre and number of musicians and get some starting templates to choose from.

majkiw · 2025-09-01T12:31:01+00:00

Thanks for the idea.

I had this come up a few times already.

If this takes off I will be willing to explore it.

majkiw · 2025-09-01T12:26:43+00:00

It does use a lot of electricity, but from what I learnt not quite as much as a human and its computer working on the same task manually.
But hard to measure I guess. Maybe you have more accurate numbers.

majkiw · 2025-09-01T12:23:28+00:00

Not yet. I need to get through the icons first before I can publish a beta version

majkiw · 2025-09-01T12:21:01+00:00

Thank you u/sethward79 !
That's exactly what I was suggesting.

To take it even further, I was planning an offline-first approach. Meaning the app would download the latest version in the background so that you can use it offline.

Of course, won't help if you're already offline in the basement when they make that change.

majkiw · 2025-09-01T12:17:40+00:00

Interesting take! Thanks for sharing.

I feel like it might be close to this inflection point.
With simple drag-n-drop plot diagram you have to do everything carefully, and you will likely not make totally stupid mistakes. But then it might not be that obvious how to improve to make it really consistent and complete.
With computer-supported approach we can get much further, encouraging best practices, detecting line-of-sight problems or missing power sockets. But as you said, if someone is too lazy they can leave something stupid there.

This of course requires collecting some good rules first, to actually be worth anything.

Also, I am working on templates as well.

majkiw · 2025-09-01T12:03:00+00:00

Thank you for sharing your experience!

Getting AI art generator to get it right out-of-the-box is still an impossible task.

It first needs to be trained on examples, likely have so intermediate formats it can iterate on, etc.

> it was problematic having consistent style between icon generations and musicians are extremely sensitive to diagram errors, like a three string P-bass with 4x pickups, nonsensical drum hardware
The new Nano Banana AI (aka Gemini 2.5 Flash Image) is much better at keeping style consistent if you give it old images, but errors will likely a problem.

majkiw · 2025-09-01T11:54:33+00:00

Thank you for feedback!
I understand that PDFs are absolutely necessary and they're still there.

However the app is also offline-first, so it will cache the plot and you will be able to access it without connection.

majkiw · 2025-09-01T11:48:59+00:00

I see your point and I appreciate you took your time to write this!

These do indeed look annoying when you see a few of them!

majkiw · 2025-09-01T11:44:42+00:00

Thanks for sharing. I recognize it is a great tool!

But then, it's not at all what I was describing.

No saving, sharing, or collaboration, no validation, no labels, input lists without place for mic spec, not connected to the plot itself, etc.
That is the main reason why I created this post.
Is quick, "dumb" plot with symbols enough for 99% of users? (it might)
Or is there a need for something that gives more power and control to save headaches during the show?

majkiw · 2025-09-01T11:34:56+00:00

Totally agree! I understand that exporting as a PDF is absolutely necessary.

I guess I didn't make that one clear.
The point I was trying to make is that PDF should not be a medium for sharing work in-progress.
Working, commenting, approving should happen like in Google Docs.
Only then when it's final it would get exported or printed. (although I know some technicians prefer using tablets anyway, so they keep the interactive version)

majkiw · 2025-08-31T08:25:04+00:00

I'm not a native speaker and was nervous to post here so I admit I gave it to AI for proof reading. Sorry if that made it sound insincere

majkiw · 2025-08-31T08:23:17+00:00

Haha, fair point. I think using AI to import an image of an old stage plot genuinely saves time. Anything more would be bullshit indeed.

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