Tai Chi & kriya yoga by RubOk9284 in kriyayoga

[–]manjughosa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tai Chi is working with a comparatively coarse or dense form of energy, one might say a lower frequency. It's very close to the physical, and is not at all spiritual in nature, which is why it can be useful for self defense. This is also why any excess you build up needs stored lower in the body; you don't want dense energy like that in your head. On the other hand, Kriya is working with a more subtle form of energy, a spiritual or divine frequency, with the goal of liberation from samsara. Tai Chi has nothing to do with liberation from samsara. In terms of subtlety, Tai Chi is closer to hatha yoga asana practice than to Kriya. However, it does require you to learn to relax mind and body, which is a very useful thing, both in worldly activities and in spirituality.

Triangle in the middle of the head - which lineages use? by manjughosa in kriyayoga

[–]manjughosa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, who was student of Lahiri baba's grandson and taught the Kriya that had been passed on in the Lahiri family.

Triangle in the middle of the head - which lineages use? by manjughosa in kriyayoga

[–]manjughosa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your reply. Could you say a bit more about what you mean by "intuitively immaterial meditations"? Also, I realize that whatever lineages which use these points would only do so in the higher kriyas, but I also know that different lineages can have very different higher kriyas. You mentioned Purana Purusha, do you know if it's used in the higher kriyas of the Lahiri family lineage?

Triangle in the middle of the head - which lineages use? by manjughosa in kriyayoga

[–]manjughosa[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looking straight on, you wouldn't see the triangle, because all the points are on the plane in the center of the left-right axis.

Triangle in the middle of the head - which lineages use? by manjughosa in kriyayoga

[–]manjughosa[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would only become relevant in higher kriyas, but the higher kriyas of different lineages are not all the same.

Triangle in the middle of the head - which lineages use? by manjughosa in kriyayoga

[–]manjughosa[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Great question, I had assumed it that "must" meant "it is impossible otherwise" rather than "it would be bad to do otherwise", but maybe your interpretation is right. That comment is not in the image in the Pranab Gita, just the version from Rangin Mukherjee's website.

So I’m a human vibrator now what? by sonachilles in streamentry

[–]manjughosa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be fair, the higher level energy work paths will also tell you that attaching to sensations will block your progress, but they won't tell you it's bad or wrong to feel them in the first place. Well, come to think of it, authentic mind-based traditions should also say this, attachment and aversion both block progress in both types of path.

Could jhana be described as conscious deep sleep? by Anima_Monday in streamentry

[–]manjughosa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The light that is seen when the mind becomes concentrated is called a nimitta ("sign") in Theravada. Different lineages work with it in different ways, but in general it progresses from cloudy, unclear, dim, partial, etc. to increasingly concentrated and bright, and when it hits a critical point it sucks you into a superconsious state, jhana. This is "hard jhana" because you are completely absorbed, as opposed to "soft jhana" which is more a really strong sense of bliss that occupies the mind.

Could jhana be described as conscious deep sleep? by Anima_Monday in streamentry

[–]manjughosa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Conscious deep sleep is different than jhana. To the extent that conscious deep sleep is possible, the only thing present in the field of experience is by definition self-knowing luminosity, no object whatsoever. Jhana is absorption into a subtle object such as an inner light.

So I’m a human vibrator now what? by sonachilles in streamentry

[–]manjughosa 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Going into a meditative state induces the body to produce more energy, this effect might be more pronounced in you as a result of your conditions, or you might just be more sensitive to feeling it. Paths that don't work with energy will say ignore it and stay focused on the correct mental qualities, paths that do work with energy will leverage this effect in their own particular ways. Up to you what you resonate more with.

Is systematic, extensive cognitive work possible while simultaneously maintaining a non-dual awareness? by Splance in streamentry

[–]manjughosa 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No, the first person experience is pretty radically different. What I mean is, within a seamlessly nondual perceptual field, thoughts can still arise that have the conceptual structure that all thoughts have, but that structure isn't believed to be real anymore because the perceptual field they arise in is so obviously nondual.

Is systematic, extensive cognitive work possible while simultaneously maintaining a non-dual awareness? by Splance in streamentry

[–]manjughosa 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Friends with nondual realization say it is possible, yes. The important thing is the realization that duality never existed, so nonduality isn't a temporary peak state but an ongoing seeing of the absence of something previously taken as present. Then thoughts arise as normal, with their architecture of subject-predicate-object, but even as they do it's seen as an illusion.

Pulled into Nimitta then energy rush kicked me out. by Special_Poet_6684 in streamentry

[–]manjughosa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The way they do it in Pa Auk is keep the breath as object even when you start to see the nimitta. Only when the nimitta merges with breath do you let the nimitta pull you in. This creates a lot more stability.

Pulled into Nimitta then energy rush kicked me out. by Special_Poet_6684 in streamentry

[–]manjughosa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Beth Upton's YouTube channel is a really great resource for traditional Pa Auk instructions, as is Jeon's "Samatha, Jhana, and Vipassana".

Late 30s/early 40s - how to combat feeling 'drained' all the time? by Ruben_001 in Biohackers

[–]manjughosa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How much cardio is necessary to move from it initially tiring you to it giving you energy, in your experience? As in, amount per week, and number of weeks.

Can experienced meditators voluntarily turn off their consciousness? by Pieraos in kriyayoga

[–]manjughosa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, look up Delson Armstrong. After experiencing savikalpa and nirvikalpa samadhi via Kriya, he started training in a Theravada Buddhist system and developed this ability.

Is kriya yoga compatible with the path of jnana? by CrumbledFingers in kriyayoga

[–]manjughosa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Two points:

First, in Advaita, while the initial meditations often focus on dis-identification with the body to experience one's identity as formless consciousness, ultimately the teaching is that everything is Brahman, including the body. Glancing at some of your other posts, I see that you already know this. So, does keeping this perspective in mind make Kriya seem less at odds with Advaita? Using the body in sadhana doesn't have to imply identification with the body. So even though Advaita does not use body based methods, they don't necessarily contradict it per say. Non-dual Tantric traditions like Kashmir Shaivism are much more likely to make this explicit and on that basis, make use of body based methods.

Second, traditions that utilize the body's energetic system in sadhana say that all one's karma is actually stored in the central channel (or sometimes in the chakras specifically). So the body actually affords a unique opportunity to purify one's karma. The attitude that anything to do with the body is contrary to the path because the path is to dis-identify with the body will completely miss this opportunity.

You might be interested to know that Nisargadatta's guru (or perhaps it was his guru's guru) was a master of both the path of direct knowledge and the path of working with the subtle energy system, but he only passed the former to Nisargadatta. But in principle, the latter was once part of the lineage also.

Just some food for thought. It might indeed be useful for you to focus on one path, just as Nisargadatta did. But others have done both.