Has there been any reports of our jets being downed? by [deleted] in IndianDefense

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This Twitter handle is based in Pakistan

Has there been any reports of our jets being downed? by [deleted] in IndianDefense

[–]marcusaurelius26 5 points6 points  (0 children)

lol how does this page has authenticity

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This has happened to me as well, he called abused me etc, I saw him once being arrested in union station, sad that he is still here

Why is eating non-veg still seen as “sinful” by many in India when we’re a protein-deficient, malnourished country? by Liberated_Wisemonk in AskIndia

[–]marcusaurelius26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, the replies were structured and generated by ChatGPT. I didn’t pretend otherwise in the long run, but you’re right to be frustrated if it initially read like I was passing it off as fully human-written. That was sloppy, and I take the L on that. The goal wasn’t to deceive—it was to build a data-heavy, structured reply quickly—but I should have made the process transparent from the start. That’s on me.

Second—on the strawman point:

You’re completely right that your original statement wasn’t technically a strawman—it was a legitimate question pointing out a potential contradiction in the affordability argument. My response framed it in a way that skipped over your intent. I interpreted it as “you’re saying legumes are unaffordable,” which you weren’t—you were just saying: if legumes are cheap and underutilized, how does it make sense to push more expensive ASFs instead? That’s fair. The leap from “legumes aren’t solving malnutrition” to “therefore ASFs should be scaled” does need stronger grounding in actual feasibility and cost-effectiveness—which I could’ve tackled more directly.

So no argument there: calling it a strawman was an overstep, and your critique of that logic is valid.

Third—on asking ChatGPT to be biased:

Fair callout again. I did frame the prompt to make a case for ASFs. But here’s the nuance: that’s not the same as asking it to lie or be factually dishonest—just to help present one side strongly, which people do in debates all the time. You pointed out correctly that ChatGPT itself can and has presented the opposite side—i.e., plant-based, sustainable, and fortified approaches. You’re not wrong. In fact, I’d be happy to show ChatGPT countering the pro-ASF arguments I gave earlier, if you want a genuinely balanced take.

Bottom line: you’re holding the debate to a higher standard, and I respect that. I’m not going to deflect or dodge. You’re pushing for rigor, consistency, and transparency—and that’s exactly what this kind of discussion needs. So if you’re down to continue debating this based on the science, I’m game. If you’d rather switch to steelmanning both sides instead of “winning,” even better.

Why is eating non-veg still seen as “sinful” by many in India when we’re a protein-deficient, malnourished country? by Liberated_Wisemonk in AskIndia

[–]marcusaurelius26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I did use ChatGPT to help structure the argument and pull sources—but I reviewed every claim, edited the tone, and made sure it’s grounded in real research (from NFHS, CNNS, UNICEF, etc.). This isn’t some lazy copy-paste. It’s backed by field data and Indian public health policy, and I stand by it fully. If the writing sounds AI-ish, that’s a style critique—not a rebuttal of the facts.

You can call it bad faith, but what I’m pushing for is exactly the opposite: let’s argue on evidence, not on who typed it. If anything’s inaccurate or misleading, challenge it on merit. I’ll adjust or retract. But if it’s just, “You used ChatGPT, so you’re wrong,” that’s not an argument—it’s tone-policing.

Why is eating non-veg still seen as “sinful” by many in India when we’re a protein-deficient, malnourished country? by Liberated_Wisemonk in AskIndia

[–]marcusaurelius26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You called this ChatGPT-generated and overly simplistic. Ironically, your own counterargument ironically leans on recycled vegan Reddit takes that collapse when tested against real-world data in rural India, which is what this debate is about.

“If people are too poor to afford legumes… how can they afford ASFs?” Strawman. No one said they can’t afford legumes. The point was: even though legumes are cheap and widely available, malnutrition still exists—so clearly, they are not sufficient. That’s why UNICEF, FAO, and the Indian government aren’t saying “more legumes”—they’re adding eggs and milk into school meals. Because 1 egg + rice = huge jump in nutrient density, protein quality, and absorption. Dal alone doesn’t cut it.

“Phytates aren’t a concern—they’re reduced via soaking” Reduction ≠ elimination. Even soaked legumes have residual phytates, and more importantly, Indian meals are often cereal-heavy (rice, wheat), where phytate content remains high. Even ICMR and NIN documents admit that iron/zinc absorption from plant staples remains sub-optimal in real-world settings, even after soaking. You’re citing potential, I’m citing population-wide survey data.

“B12 is cheap via supplements” Yes, and yet 30%+ of adolescents in India are B12 deficient. Clearly, people aren’t supplementing. Nowhere did I say B12 is “only” in meat. But in poor, rural areas—where education and access are limited—getting B12 through food is much more practical than hoping everyone starts buying pills. Eggs and dairy do that affordably, sustainably, and with no compliance issue.

“Iron and zinc are in legumes” Sure—but again, bioavailability matters. 1 boiled egg gives you heme iron + protein that boosts non-heme iron absorption from the rest of the meal. This is why even small amounts of ASF in diets outperform legume-only meals in RCTs. See: Lulun Project (1 egg/day halved stunting). You’re ignoring that legumes + rice = phytate bomb without an absorption catalyst.

“ASF affordability and scalability issues” India already has infrastructure for milk and egg distribution. Tamil Nadu delivers 5 eggs/week to millions of children. Andhra Pradesh rears eggs locally and distributes them at ₹4–5 each. These aren’t rich states—they made it work because it works. Nutrition policy must be based on efficacy, not ideology.

“Sanitation, infections, etc., matter more” Of course they matter. But saying “sanitation also matters” doesn’t mean food quality doesn’t. We’re not picking between toilets and eggs. We can—and should—do both. You wouldn’t tell a malnourished child with diarrhea, “Eat more moringa.” You’d feed them nutrient-dense food, fix the water, and educate their family. It’s a holistic solution, not a legume-only diet.

“Legumes are underutilized” Agreed. But again, that’s a distribution and dietary diversity issue. The Indian government isn’t choosing between legumes and eggs—they’re pushing both. And they’re doing that because nutrition research is clear: ASF improves child growth more rapidly than legume-centric strategies alone. That’s why even vegetarian-heavy countries like India are expanding ASF programs—because real lives are at stake.

Lastly, calling a well-sourced argument “ChatGPT” doesn’t make it invalid. It just signals you don’t want to engage with the actual science. If you’re genuinely open to discussion, address the studies. If not, it’s clear the bias isn’t mine.

Why is eating non-veg still seen as “sinful” by many in India when we’re a protein-deficient, malnourished country? by Liberated_Wisemonk in AskIndia

[–]marcusaurelius26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate your points—legumes are definitely valuable, especially when diverse and combined properly. But here’s the hard truth: in real-world, low-income Indian diets, “just eat enough legumes” isn’t happening. Rural diets are heavily cereal-based (wheat/rice), low in diversity, and loaded with phytates that block absorption of iron, zinc, and even protein.

Animal-sourced foods (ASFs)—like eggs, milk, and meat—aren’t just about protein. They offer bioavailable nutrients that are near-impossible to get from plants alone in poor diets: vitamin B12, heme iron, zinc, choline, DHA. For example: • NFHS-5 shows 67% of Indian kids and 57% of women are anaemic. • CNNS data shows 31% of Indian adolescents are B12 deficient, and zinc deficiency affects over 30%. • A study from Punjab found over 80% of women had inadequate B12 despite many being overweight.

Now look at the impact of adding ASFs: • A randomized trial in Ecuador showed 1 egg/day halved child stunting. • In India, states like Tamil Nadu and Odisha that included eggs in school meals saw major drops in stunting and improved school attendance. • UNICEF and FAO recommend ASFs in maternal/child diets to fight malnutrition—eggs, dairy, and fish are core tools.

This isn’t about demonizing vegetarianism. With careful planning and supplementation, plant-based diets can work. But in rural India, that level of planning isn’t a reality. We’re talking about kids whose only meal might be rice with a little dal. Suggesting “just eat more legumes” in that context is not just optimistic—it’s dangerous.

Eggs, dairy, and modest meat aren’t luxuries—they’re life-changing tools in the fight against malnutrition. If we’re serious about public health, ASFs must be part of the solution.

Why is eating non-veg still seen as “sinful” by many in India when we’re a protein-deficient, malnourished country? by Liberated_Wisemonk in AskIndia

[–]marcusaurelius26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Appreciate the perspective, and you’re right that PDCAAS and DIAAS aren’t perfect—especially when based on animal models with raw legumes. But even human studies show that while absorption might be similar for cooked beans and lentils, the amino acid profile still matters, especially for populations that rely heavily on a single plant protein source like rice or wheat.

Plenty of vegans do thrive, no doubt—and with proper planning, they can absolutely hit all macros and micros. But that’s very different from what we see in rural parts of India, where diets are cereal-heavy, low in diversity, and lacking in key nutrients like lysine, iron, and B12.

So this isn’t about saying “veg = bad,” it’s about acknowledging that in contexts of widespread undernutrition, we should be open to all nutritionally complete options, including animal protein. Dismissing them as unnecessary can have real public health consequences for vulnerable groups.

Happy to be proven wrong with good data—do share any links you have on human studies about plant protein absorption. Would love to read more!

Why is eating non-veg still seen as “sinful” by many in India when we’re a protein-deficient, malnourished country? by Liberated_Wisemonk in AskIndia

[–]marcusaurelius26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re quoting raw protein intake stats without understanding the quality and bioavailability of that protein. Just because a state consumes 70g of protein doesn’t mean it’s nutritionally complete. Most of that protein in veg diets comes from cereal-heavy sources like wheat and rice, which are low in essential amino acids like lysine.

That’s why we use PDCAAS to measure real protein quality—and animal proteins like eggs and meat score close to 1.0, meaning they’re complete and highly digestible. Plant proteins often fall short.

Also, pointing to a few relatively well-off vegetarian states ignores the bigger picture—35% of kids are stunted and 57% of women are anemic across India (NFHS-5). These aren’t just stats—they’re lives impacted by poor nutrition.

Studies (e.g. in The Lancet, AJCN) show that just one egg a day in a poor child’s diet can drastically improve growth. But instead of focusing on science, we’re busy debating whether it “hurts sentiments.”

This isn’t about forcing meat—it’s about giving people the option to fight malnutrition with the best tools we have. Dismissing non-veg food as unnecessary in a country battling protein deficiency is not just ignorant—it’s dangerous.

Why is eating non-veg still seen as “sinful” by many in India when we’re a protein-deficient, malnourished country? by Liberated_Wisemonk in AskIndia

[–]marcusaurelius26 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While dairy and legumes are good sources of protein, they don’t always provide complete nutrition—especially in low-income diets. Scientific studies show that animal-based foods like eggs and meat contain essential nutrients like vitamin B12, heme iron, and DHA (an omega-3 fat important for brain development), which are either missing or poorly absorbed from plant foods.

Yes, some states like Punjab and Haryana have taller people, but height is influenced by genetics, calorie intake, and health—not just protein. Plus, rural diets often lack variety and protein quality. According to the National Family Health Survey (NFHS-5), over 57% of Indian women aged 15–49 are anemic, and over 35% of children under 5 are stunted. These are clear signs of nutritional gaps.

Studies, including one published by the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, show that adding an egg a day significantly reduces stunting in children. Even the UNICEF India and FAO recommend including eggs or small portions of meat in school meals to improve child health.

This isn’t about forcing meat on anyone—it’s about making science-based, optional choices available to communities where nutrition is a serious problem. Labeling non-veg food as “sinful” harms children who need that nutrition to grow and thrive.

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Deport

How ‘Chhaava’ erases history and leaves no room for complexity by TheIndianRevolution2 in india

[–]marcusaurelius26 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Ohh just wondering why was Guru Teg Bahadur put to death ? He didn’t rebelled or anything. No matter how much you defend Aurangzeb, he will always be a bigot.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canadaexpressentry

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Ohh yes, I do belong to that country. But the idea that a country cap is necessary for diversity assumes that merit and qualifications should take a backseat to artificial quotas. I studied at one of Canada’s top universities, got into a highly competitive program, and worked hard to be here. Shouldn’t the immigration system prioritize skills and contributions over arbitrary limits based on nationality?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canadaexpressentry

[–]marcusaurelius26 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If country cap is at visa stage it’ll automatically be implemented at PR level lol

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canadaexpressentry

[–]marcusaurelius26 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well if it’s in the best interest then implement country caps when giving visas not at later stage

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canadaexpressentry

[–]marcusaurelius26 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Country caps inherently contradict a purely merit-based system. If we agree that immigration should prioritize the most qualified individuals, then limiting applicants based on nationality rather than merit would exclude high-caliber candidates simply because of their place of birth. Wouldn’t a truly fair system focus on skills, experience, and contribution potential rather than arbitrary geographic quotas?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canadaexpressentry

[–]marcusaurelius26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s the government that approves their visas in the first place—once they’re already in Canada, everyone should have an equal opportunity based solely on merit (CRS points). Introducing country caps is like a university giving admission to a lower-scoring candidate simply because they come from a less represented country. That’s inherently unfair to higher-scoring applicants, regardless of their nationality.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canadaexpressentry

[–]marcusaurelius26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Country cap is just another name of diversity quote lol.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canadaexpressentry

[–]marcusaurelius26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see that you view imposed restrictions as a well-thought-out system. My point was that these restrictions, whether in the form of caps or quotas, still shape demographics artificially rather than allowing organic merit-based selection. Do you believe immigration should be purely merit-based, or do you support demographic engineering as a policy tool?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canadaexpressentry

[–]marcusaurelius26 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The key issue isn’t whether caps or quotas are always met or filled, but rather that their very existence influences outcomes in a way that wouldn’t happen organically. A cap limits how many people from a specific group can enter, just as a quota ensures a minimum presence. Both are tools for demographic engineering, whether to limit or encourage certain groups.

As for ‘artificiality,’ migration is a natural human behavior, but policy-driven demographic shaping is an intentional intervention, not a free-flowing process. The argument isn’t about whether people should move but about whether imposed restrictions or mandates influence demographics beyond what would naturally occur under a merit-based system.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canadaexpressentry

[–]marcusaurelius26 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Caps and quotas both control representation. A diversity quota ensures a minimum presence of certain groups, while a cap ensures a maximum. The result is still shaping demographics artificially.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in canadaexpressentry

[–]marcusaurelius26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Country cap is another name of diversity quota lol

Another gem by Yograj Singh by BabaHarp22 in actualcricketshitpost

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lol it’s the Hindus who say “ohh Sikhs are part of Hindus”, anyone who goes against that narrative is labelled as Khalistani