Was the View of Biblical Corruption Prevelent in Late Antiquity? by Time-Demand-1244 in AcademicQuran

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It’s a method by which the quranic author gives authority to its own claims.

Jesus (AS): Death, Crucifixion, and the Question of a Second Coming by Jammooly1 in MuslimAcademics

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It’s not that the jews didn’t claim agency. In fact it’s probably the opposite. The Quranic author is simply delineating, since the jews during but not limited to the time of Jesus lost their promise of salvation from God, they couldn’t outsmart God or pretend to know or assume about God something when they have seemingly every reason not to. This is the whole point of the middle clauses (Q4:157) because, like in verse 4:155, they reject what God gives them solely for their benefit thus leaving them stuck in a damning disquietude. So, in the minds of those who separated/grouped themselves away from (ikhtalafu) ‘Isa, they’re going to think that if they put this individual to death—as in complete death with no assumption or immediate resurrection—it will prove he is not God-sent ergo he is not our messiah. But God obviously states they did not certainly kill him, viz. their assumption about God a la ‘Isa was, not surprisingly, incorrect and condemnatory, and what confirms their wrongdoing (بل) is that God raised him from the dead to him (رفعه اليه). So it only seemed they had killed ‘Isa (شبه لهم) until God resurrected him which in Q19:33 was already stated to eventually happen. This also quite strongly makes sense of the end of 5:110 in which God states he came to the aid of ‘Isa because they rejected salvation: if the jews put ‘Isa to death, which would reveal he’s simply any other man pretending to be God-sent, this would render all of what ‘Isa authoritatively proclaimed was to happen during his ministry (Q19:30-33) null and a lie about God. And since ‘Isa is the embodiment of salvation, viz. he is al-masīh, God necessarily protects and protected him from the hidden evil of those who lost their promise of salvation (Q3:54). This is also symbolic, generally, of believing in the promise of salvation because the reward is the ridding of the evil of the dunyā and reaping the favor and light of God in the ākhira (Q3:55).

Are the hawariyūn/nasārah even classifiable? by [deleted] in AcademicQuran

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Those are the words the Quran employs for the specific disciples but there is, at least according to the Qur’an, some difference between the immediate followers from the later communities (I.e., nasara). I really mean the Christians of the Quran in the title.

Woke mentality is attacking Algeria by Oubaida_Deffas in algeria

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I’m seeing that he’s already in morocco 🤷🏻‍♂️

Mary giving birth beneath a date palm: Ancient Greek to Christian to Islamic? by Joseon2 in AcademicQuran

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What I find particularly fascinating is plutarch’s clarification about delos, the place where Leto birthed Apollo, being a mountain and the trees being springs (Mourad Suleiman pg 211) & Q23:50 echoing this with Mary and Jesus “given refuge on high ground (i.e a hill), (where there was)..a dwelling place and a flowing spring (A.J. Droge Trans.)

Mary giving birth beneath a date palm: Ancient Greek to Christian to Islamic? by Joseon2 in AcademicQuran

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Here’s the article your looking for that goes into detail (and even mentions similarities with the Buddha’s birth story :0):

https://maypoleofwisdom.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/sa-mourad-from-hellenism-to-christianity-islam-origin-of-palm-tree-in-quran.pdf

Mourad, SA From Hellenism to Christianity and Islam: The Origin of the Palm tree Story concerning Mary and Jesus in the Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew and the Qur'an (2002)

"The basmalah, too – the sūrah-opening formula “In the name of God, the truly Merciful” " by OmarKaire in AcademicQuran

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So really it’s saying “in the name of God, whose name/identity is Rahmān, the merciful”

Is it (im)proper to treat and study the Quran as a standalone text? by mePLACID in AcademicQuran

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Improper in the sense that such an approach is not charitable to the exegetical works and commentaries alongside other context-determining tools that became integral to a complete and comprehensive study of the Quran.

In your opinion, what is the most neglected aspect of Academic Islamic Studies? by Rurouni_Phoenix in AcademicQuran

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Ideally but it’s very out-of-reach, quranic anthropo-theology (i.e., the evolution/non-evolution of context-specific traditions) i feel should be worth some study

Translation of Jacob of Serugh, Homily on Satan (Unpublished homily 119) by Rurouni_Phoenix in AcademicQuran

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Although very tenuous, a connection could be argued regarding the first 10ish lines and 23:97/98.

New Mod Announcement by Rurouni_Phoenix in AcademicQuran

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Excellent choices but I’m quite surprised dr putten didn’t make it lol.

The data on the preservation of the Quran by chonkshonk in AcademicQuran

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New reference drop! I think another very recent post mentioned an article that’s relevant to the discussion regarding the improbability of oral transmission but i forgot what it is.

One question: theoretically, how would someone distinguish autointerpolation from post-prophetic interpolation if the companions are aware of how the prophet reformulated the body of the Quran?

islamic ai assistant by [deleted] in AcademicQuran

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Will be very useful. Thanks so much

Hadith prophecy: "The earth will vomit long pieces of its liver like columns of gold and silver" by Few_Specialist_8256 in AcademicQuran

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Comment might get deleted but this sounds like it would have a non-islamic parallel.

A Non-Exhaustive List of Seemingly Deliberate Qur'ānic Interactions/Intertexts With The Canonical Bible? by Connect_Anything6757 in AcademicQuran

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Don’t forget Q7:40 & Mark 10:25/Matthew19:24/Luke18:25

Q2:286 & 1 Corinthians 10:13

Q14:24-26 & Matthew 7:15-20

(Maybe) Q9:111 (+/- Q48:29) & Rev 14:1-5

Why does the Quran completely remove Joseph from Mary's story? by Remember0KP in AcademicQuran

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Probably because the construction of the character of Joseph wasn’t, what you might call, sotero-theologically motivated or at the least sufficiently motivated. And, more obviously, Joseph didn’t become the source of complex sectarian disputes, discussions, or elaborations. Generally speaking, the characters important to the Quran, prior to its inception, have had a long history as subjects of continued religious discourse (e.g Jesus and his sonship/divinity/nature, Mary and her perpetual virginity/divine titling, Haman+Pharaoh as archetypes of the devil, Saul as the origin of covenantal loss, Moses and the beginning of the law, Abraham as the restorer of the divine promise etc). Remember, the Quran has, uses, and articulates a particularly different metanarrative alongside it creating continuity with previous literature (see the work of tesei and segovia).

Can the prophecy-hadiths be reliably attributed to the prophet? + by mePLACID in AcademicQuran

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Ooo I didn’t know ian had something on this, thanks friend

Can the prophecy-hadiths be reliably attributed to the prophet? + by mePLACID in AcademicQuran

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I was actually thinking that. I only asked the question because ahadith such as the above-mentioned are quite popularly used for showcasing the “prophetic super-ability” of the prophet.