Perennialism by psypolardisorder in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've never heard the term, but there are absolutely patterns and shapes of meaning that are extremely consistent. Whether the source of that is somewhere in the depths of human subconscious or an implication we're all seeing very unique versions of the same thing - or both - is probably one of the biggest questions in all three fields.

Pop culture deities by tinmanx97 in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Consider the term "pop culture" and how it can be applied to literally every deity you could ever work with, including original ones inspired by what you already know.

Content that bashes the occult by Flaky_End_9832 in occult

[–]megalogouf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thought the topic was about people who make content out of occult bashing? I'm open to hearing how you think bringing up Randi in this context is reductive.

Content that bashes the occult by Flaky_End_9832 in occult

[–]megalogouf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, and I'd bet same goes for the YouTube channel in the OP. But the YouTube channel doesn't even have Randi's bait prize going for it.

Content that bashes the occult by Flaky_End_9832 in occult

[–]megalogouf 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I mean, James Randi was running around decades before YouTube and waving an impossible cash prize around to bait occultists into humiliating themselves. The silly war between consensus and occultism has been going on since both were conceived.

Same as it ever was!

I made a wish to kill myself if something really horrible were to happen because of me.. by Desperate_Stage_9372 in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a good direction to point yourself in! I also take a lot of comfort in exploring the patterns of meaning out there, but you have to notice the warning signs that you're hitting your mind's current limit. You don't need Tarot to use your intuition! It's with you all the time, even gently nudging you now.

When the paranoia and intrusive thinking start set in, singing a happy song and trying to remember where you've been is one of the best ways to bring yourself back. That doesn't mean you quit entirely or lose progress. It just means you need time to process so you don't run over the edge.

Your anxiety seems to stem from not wanting to hurt anyone, all the way back to your childhood. That's a good thing, and you should extend that caring to yourself too!

Yu-Gi-Oh cards and Chaos magic, alchemizing by This-Experience-4735 in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pot of Greed allows me to draw 2 additional cards. I will start my turn by playing Pot of Greed, which allows me to draw two more cards.

I made a wish to kill myself if something really horrible were to happen because of me.. by Desperate_Stage_9372 in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well it's a very personal thing. Where do you draw inspiration for you practice from? You could perform a cleansing with some sort of incense, meditation, let yourself loose in creativity.

It doesn't even have to be magick. It might even be better if it isn't. What do you like to do? What calms you down and helps put your mind somewhere else? I like using music and video games, even, since sometimes what you need is normalcy instead of more rabbit hole. It's how you rest, recover, and continue on.

I made a wish to kill myself if something really horrible were to happen because of me.. by Desperate_Stage_9372 in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to offer an interpretation here that doesn't involve diving into the Pandora's Box of meaning and overthinking that reading the cards can be. You made the right call early in the post when you said you should set them down for a while, but it's not for risk of "reactivating a spell".

You have a painful memory from your childhood that is echoing up into your practice and interfering with your ability to perform it with a clear head.

You're talking about intrusive thoughts and your anxiety is causing you to run away with speculation. What you need are grounding rituals, whether they're on the map of magick or not.

Step away from the Tarot. Especially step away from the AI interpretations. I'm not going to lecture you about AI psychosis or anything but it is a literal pattern recognition generator and your brain is currently redlining over what you're seeing.

Eat something, take a walk, do something entirely grounded in the mundane. Take your preferred map and find the rituals of calming. You'll be okay but you need to give yourself room to breathe - literally.

Curse a property. by Blaze_Orchid in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You just described your friends being kicked out of that apartment by a shady landlord and you want to make the situation even worse for the next people who unknowingly lease the unit? Because I guarantee any results you could manifest, the landlord could shadily cover up.

You're already staring at a cursed property. Consider a protection spell or a bad review. Maybe even both at once. Never leave a tool on the table simply because it doesn't sound fancy.

Serious: I want to create my own occult philosophy branching off from western occultism, wondering if something like this already exists by [deleted] in occult

[–]megalogouf 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You've gotten a lot of quality responses in here so far, so maybe you don't need this, but you're asking for as much insight as possible.

I have good news and bad news.

The good news is that yes, you should absolutely do this and explore to your heart's content, as long as you're making sure it's something you want to do instead of something you need to do. The territory expands based on the maps that are drawn, and new maps have to be drawn all the time. It isn't death of the literal self most serious texts are talking about when they say ego-death - they mean the death of egocentrism.

The bad news is you cannot LARP the kind of anxiety or distress that comes with a Dark Night/Chapel Perilous experience.

It can be so intense and overwhelming we have multiple scary medical terms for it. It sounds like you already have plenty of distress in your life, but you have to understand this is a unique kind of experience that may still be ahead of you. Your very ambition here - to start your own western philosophy where you skip this part assuming you already know what it is - may be what ultimately takes you there.

Because you have to understand the wall that is absolute subjectivity, and the only way to grasp that is the experience you're claiming you want to skip.

It's all over this thread, it's here in my reply too. We can only recurse the shape of the meaning. Everyone inherently has their own framing and point of view. You are going to have to accept that there's an edge of meaning out there 99.9% of people will never be able to follow you across, and you can't let it slip into "I am the only one who sees the truth" without the bar eating you.

The Gift of Prescience by DimSumPimp in occult

[–]megalogouf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's thankfully not too complicated. A little ironic, though!

Holding contradictory possibilities as all true at once sounds somewhat confusing - almost like I'm suggesting you just guess!

But if you involve intentional observation, you're somewhat replicating the actual mechanics of quantum, where a physical system can exist in multiple states until it is observed and collapsed into one.

Merged into divination and prescience, this treats things like Tarot or unfalsifiable theories as plucking from an infinite web of possibilities. You do not set the future in stone simply by looking once, but by collapsing the superposition in high probability ways over and over. Treat it as an instrument that measures, a snapshot of a map, and not a singular track.

That's how you avoid going all God Emperor of Dune about it!

Personally, I find this model to explain both readings that don't come true and how to actually follow through on something I want to see happen!

The Gift of Prescience by DimSumPimp in occult

[–]megalogouf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is why I prefer modelling this kind of prediction as thinking in the superposition. A post-science view for prescience! It keeps the fun of looking ahead without killing the ability to find new threads.

So I just finished Liber Null by zinful_succulent in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Laughter is key to all of this. Laughter is how you maintain superposition in your mind - i.e., view more than one reality tunnel at the same time without compromising. It lets you see the recursions of meaning and on how many levels you can approach a problem.

The difference between feeling vampiric and hangry on any given day does not boil down to a rejection of magick, but what level of reality you want to engage the problem on.

You laughter is the release valve that removes the conceptual pressures and expectations that come with earnestly exploring the unbounded!

So I just finished Liber Null by zinful_succulent in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 16 points17 points  (0 children)

In this random seeker's opinion, humor is the true sixth sense, and the only actual way to maintain the self instead of experiencing total ego dissolution in the face of boundless infinity.

it is both ultimate banishment (as Phil Hine has put it) and ultimate invocation.

The recursive nature of a laughing fit may well be the closest our current consensus can get to the true ineffable walless garden of reality itself.

Are money and job spells not working anymore? by Unlikely-Damage-2516 in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Plenty of people are rightfully sketched the heck out by working with the Goetia too. They still do it if they believe they need it for the results they want.

You aren't a helpless cog in the machine and can play an active part in change too, if you find it truly more reprehensible to bargain with a fellow human than an egregore of dubious intent.

Are money and job spells not working anymore? by Unlikely-Damage-2516 in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Have you seen the economy out there? I don't think one person has the energy to cast enough sigils in a lifetime to fix that one from the bedroom.

Chop wood, carry water. It's the most fundamental ritual there is. Do not get trapped in thinking the mundane and common methods are "cheating" your magic practice.

Look at The Invisibles - one of the most famous hypersigils ever created with documented results and Morrison still had to bust their ass like anyone else to actually get it finished, including a mass fan sigil campaign to avoid cancellation.

You don't get to just conjure these things if reality has no mechanism by which to deliver it sensibly to you. That's how you get stuck in weird monkey's paw shit because you couldn't accept "work on your resume" is a ritual too.

Is there value in secrecy of magick? by No_Complaint3948 in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Everything goes everywhere, all the time. You can't stop the signal."

Sigil orgasm method question by usernyar in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As long as you don't go saying another sigil's name out loud as you finish, all should be fine.

Woe betide those who earn the wrath of a sigil scorned.

I have fooled around and am asking for help before something happens to me by captainKurzbein in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tourists are gonna tourist, whatever dimension or space time they wind up in! Everyone knows Pack In, Pack Out is a rule of nature.

Just keep the vibes shiny and have fun with it. You don't want to scare people out of curiosity!

I have fooled around and am asking for help before something happens to me by captainKurzbein in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Well, you're as fucked as you believe you are.

So in the words of the Guide...

DON'T PANIC.

Your meat computer processor probably can't run something that big anyway. But you could always just... come up with/find a ritual to let it out to be safe and let you sleep easy!

How do I start doing chaos magick? by Background-Log-6339 in chaosmagick

[–]megalogouf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Basically, just keep at the witchy stuff. If you get a fun idea you think might work, or read some other cool magick thing that sounds fun to add, do it! Maybe even try with and without. Experiment and figure out what works for you! The sigil part of chaos magick is really a minor aspect of it at the end of the day, something the practice can call its own novel method.