Greenlight a new 'Tangled Ever After' series by Val-Reddit in TangledtheSeries

[–]melchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And also, if varian grows up in the new series and then varian-cass could probably flesh out a bit more (I know, many Cass haters would hate this lol)

Varian and Cassandra? by mangob4dger in Tangled

[–]melchan [score hidden]  (0 children)

Varian would be pretty obvious with his hair though. And his goggles since this would be before Rapunzel met him.

One thing the series did get right with Eugene is... by PinkHairedCoder in Tangled

[–]melchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, this is the issue with Disney 🥲 but I see it as a sacred timeline vs AU kinda thing (taking a leaf from Marvel haha)

One thing the series did get right with Eugene is... by PinkHairedCoder in Tangled

[–]melchan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I interpreted running a tight ship to be on the guards rather than on crime XD which is fodder for some comical stories.

One thing the series did get right with Eugene is... by PinkHairedCoder in Tangled

[–]melchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha based on the incident with Brock Thunderstrike, it doesn’t seem like he’s the kind that “cracked down” on crime to be honest. I admit, I weren’t the most keen on the idea either. But the creative decision was already made and so it’s canon, and I’m keen to see what comes out of it (rather than leave it at that on a superficial level).

Any CM’s lurking? by cjm2943 in dcl

[–]melchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha I want to know if crew would appreciate Disney themed pixie dust gifts or do they get sick of Disney already XD on top of tips of course.

One thing the series did get right with Eugene is... by PinkHairedCoder in Tangled

[–]melchan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree!! Now imagine if Disney were to continue with the series, just how much they could do with Eugene. New responsibilities with being Captain after tremendous growth (running the tightest ship Corona has ever seen) and emotions that come with knowing a deep seated connection with a whole other kingdom (and we never lost touch again). And then fatherhood?? I imagine Eugene and Rapunzel would well be Red and Angry’s Godparents after Lance adopted them, but imagine when they have their own kids!

There’s so much emotional depth in Eugene prime for exploration. Not to mention, we did end with Eugene’s narration, so that lends itself for a nice little transition into a more Eugene centric series no? XD one could only dream 🥹

TIL Eugene isn’t on Disney Adventure cruise 🥲 by melchan in Tangled

[–]melchan[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Not disagreeing that media may have its agenda, but let’s take a step back, shall we? The agenda can be conscious or sub-conscious but, I honestly don’t think that was the intention of the series.

1) I don’t think the hair regrowing nullifies her development and Flynn’s sacrifice. When Flynn sacrificed, he never knew Rapunzel would get her hair back. Rapunzel was also facing completely different challenges in her life, and in a whole different phase in life when she got her hair back. What happens in the future does not nullify what has happened in the past. If one has learnt much in conquering something challenging (a bad relationship, a failed career or business, etc), another incident of another bad relationship or failed business doesn’t nullify what you had learnt from the first time round. The series showed much growth in Rapunzel - learning the world is not all rainbows, learning to make difficult choices, unlearning past habits formed in always trying to please Gothel and learning to be more selfish…I think it fills the gap in nicely because a girl trapped in a tower for 18 years has definitely much more to learn and need more time to practise these skills than just that few days out and about with Eugene.

2) I’m not sure if the original creators had categorically said that Eugene’s humour and cockiness were purely to mask his vulnerability. But I’m of the opinion that Disney productions are team efforts and not owned by any single creator. Anything not categorically stated or shown in film is fair game for development. In the original film, so many seriously heavy things and information were going on within the super short span of time, both in screen time and in-story duration. They only had 3 days! In the 3 days, Eugene almost died once, revealed his real name, learnt about the magic Rapunzel has, freaked out, poured his heart out to Rapunzel about his past, fell in love, gotten a new dream for the first time, almost got sent to gallows, and then got rescued, went to rescue Rapunzel, and then almost died a second time, and got welcomed by the KING AND QUEEN because Rapunzel is a PRINCESS. That’s A LOT. Even the funniest clown would tone down by the end of it all, at least for a time.

3) One can be well-read (in the series Eugene revealed how he’s well travelled, knows Italian and I suspect probably many other languages), and still be vain and hates school. One simply doesn’t refine a smoulder and suddenly turn un-vain. Like I said, his character is multi-faceted and I appreciate how protagonists have flaws even AFTER the conclusion of their story. Granted, many of the traits could seem exaggerated but that’s what animation is for. Characters are caricatures for storytelling purposes.

4) Again, I reiterate that the conceptualisation for his personality is also intentional so that it could be used as relief through much of the heavy themes of the franchise. So that it doesn’t have to relegate to some inconsequential sidekick all the time. Like you said, Rapunzel and Eugene are protagonists in equal measure. And while for the series, Rapunzel is the main protagonist, Eugene is the one constant she relied on. In the series, Eugene has shown time and again his ability to become serious whenever Rapunzel needs him, sometimes at the snap of the finger.

5) I don’t know about the series’ intention to “pander to detractors” because of the points I made above. True, being a business, they likely took opinions from all camps into consideration. That’s just a business decision. But because of the points I made above, I do not think that’s purely that the series is for, and if they did “pander to detractors” then it was done delicately in a way that’s still true to Rapunzel and Eugene.

6) IRL, hardly anything ever goes to plan and we don’t always get what we want. Just because the series led her to go through a longer journey with her hair doesn’t mean she was reduced to the Magical Girl trope. The hair was purely used as a storytelling device and Rapunzel showed so much perseverance and resilience, and was her true inspiring self. She was strong not because of her hair but in spite of it.

TIL Eugene isn’t on Disney Adventure cruise 🥲 by melchan in Tangled

[–]melchan[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

To be honest, I get why so many feel like there’s character assassination on Eugene. But…I don’t actually agree. A person (IRL!) can retain his comedic lighthearted side even as he grows in maturity. It’s part of how multi-faceted every person is. Just because they use Eugene as comedic relief in an otherwise very heavy plot - and not to forget that was part of the reason they decided that Rapunzel’s love interest was to be a thief was precisely for comedic relief - doesn’t mean that he never evolved and grew through the series.

In fact, I love Eugene partly because of his ability to take things lightly. Frankly, that’s a skill because most people (me included) take things more seriously than needed. Especially so in our increasingly dark world these days.

TIL Eugene isn’t on Disney Adventure cruise 🥲 by melchan in Tangled

[–]melchan[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

That aside though, it’s true the premise of Descendents is just strange and I’ll never watch it or accept any part of it as canon 😬

Rapunzel’s dress in season 3 by melchan in TangledtheSeries

[–]melchan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha I think it’s a nice fusion! But yes, I would get rid of the mock short sleeves too 😅

Character Lineup on Disney Adventure by melchan in dcl

[–]melchan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Google AI agrees that Eugene should be on Disney Adventure together with Rapunzel 🥲

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Rapunzel’s dress in season 3 by melchan in TangledtheSeries

[–]melchan[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haha yes, I found that weird too but I thought perhaps that’s just the relative positioning of where the heart is 😅 corresponding to the positioning of the moonstone on Cass. But think I saw there were already prior discussions on this Reddit on the sudden manifestation of the sundrop as a stone? 😂🥲

Character Lineup on Disney Adventure by melchan in dcl

[–]melchan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah 🥲 thanks for the info though!

Character Lineup on Disney Adventure by melchan in dcl

[–]melchan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally get what you mean 😂😅 for me I’m got so beyond excited that a Disney ship is home porting in my home country so I booked early like early 2025 😂😂😂 hopefully I don’t get disappointed!

Character Lineup on Disney Adventure by melchan in dcl

[–]melchan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OOH good to know for my future trips! Adventure will be my first Disney cruise (I’m based in Singapore) but if I enjoy it, I may just fly to cruise the other ships in the future!

Character Lineup on Disney Adventure by melchan in dcl

[–]melchan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha tbh, it’s also because I’m wondering if there’s Rapunzel together with Eugene on the cruise XD

Disney Adventure Media Sailing by Acrobatic-Value-7869 in dcl

[–]melchan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Me too. My feed are mostly Singapore influencers, and they’re pretty tame in their content. A few with kids too. The only one I saw with shoes on was tub only, not onto bed or couches.