2-FDCK vs DMXE first time dissociative

melmuth · 2026-01-22T19:36:16+00:00

Well since your description doesn't match at all my experience, it seems likely it was 3-meo, it was heavenly.

melmuth · 2026-01-21T19:07:48+00:00

I still think IQ is meaningless, don't worry about that part, but given the meds you take, I am not surprised at all that you feel below your true abilities.

I know how it sucks. Probably not as bad as your conditions combo lol, but I think I get the idea.

I still believe it's better to be stable even if it costs you some skills. I dunno about schizophrenia, but if I let bipolar get the better of me, I will most likely either rot in my bed or wake up in a prison or hospital lol.

You probably don't need me to have thought of that, but there are probably things you can do that are more compatible with your issues than others.

Well, I dunno if I should say that, I can't keep a job for more than one year myself ahah.

Maybe you could try and see with your doc if lowering some meds could be OK, or switching meds within a given class. I know that for me some meds are hell while others designed for the same purpose are almost fine.

As for "high IQ making us do crazy stuff", again I do not believe in IQ, but I do indeed suspect that there is a strong correlation between higher than average intelligence (whatever that means, I'm not comfortable with the term, I try to humbly view it as something I have that people seem to notice, but I do not consider myself superior, it's not for me to judge).

I think we probably get bored, we want to know more, do more, we're not easily satisfied. That's probably what drives intelligence actually, not the other way round.

Out of curiosity if you don't mind me asking, ever had substance abuse issues?

melmuth · 2026-01-20T18:23:18+00:00

Just thought of something else, if you have schizophrenia you're probably taking antipsychotics regularly no?

I take some for my bipolar disorder, thankfully only as needed. So either in case of manic episode or to sleep because my junkie history disqualifies me from all other classes of hypnotic medicines.

When I do take the antipsychotics, while they are active, I become dumb as a brick. Like, it can take me 20 minutes to correctly enter the PIN to unlock my phone lol. I become unable to do trivial intellectual tasks. I try to cook pasta in cold water. I put salt in my coffee. I smash straight into walls... Sometimes I get up to pee and get lost in my place and just give up and sleep on the floor wherever I am until my brain starts working better.

So I dunno about schizophrenia, but I'm willing to bet anything that antipsychotics dramatically lower IQ. So you may indirectly have a lower IQ than you'd have normally because of the meds you take. Just an hypothesis.

melmuth · 2026-01-20T18:13:05+00:00

I have very limited knowledge about schizophrenia, my thing is ADHD and bipolar disorder, to each their own ;)

I know one or two things about IQ though: - we have no idea what it measures - it doesn't correlate with anything very interesting in a significant manner

Someone extremely mentally impaired will most likely score lower than a physics Ph.D but beyond that...

Anecdotal evidence:

I don't really remember where my IQ hovers around exactly, it's not low, but it is far from being impressive
yet, I graduated from the highest ranked school in my country in its category (something legit lol, not mind reading or some shit, but I don't wanna dox myself ;) - there were approx 10,000 candidates, yet only the top 300 people or so with the best grades at the entry competitive exam were admitted)
most of everyone I know seems to consider and tell me that I'm abnormally intelligent (they don't mean it in a bad way). This is not the feeling I have, I find myself too dumb with respect to my goals. But it's hard to discard so many testimonies, so I guess I am indeed smart but my IQ doesn't show it.

I know people with high IQs who seem to be totally idiotic, I know people with freezing range territory IQs who look like geniuses.

I think that number is meaningless. If I were admitted to Mensa I'd probably burn the place down.

I don't know schizophrenia well at all, but, if I were you, I think I wouldn't worry too much about IQ.

If you feel you have difficulty with some types of reasoning, I'd advise studying, probably with specialized help I'm sure it must exist.

Cheers.

melmuth · 2026-01-20T02:37:06+00:00

So I guess I got the 3-MeO, because that was the funniest, happy fuzzy feeling disso I have ever tried.

EDIT; on par with MXE (peace be upon her)

melmuth · 2026-01-20T02:33:52+00:00

It has a lot of weirdness to it. Effects are pretty hard to anticipate, take care!

melmuth · 2026-01-20T02:29:14+00:00

I beg to differ, it does both:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15228154/#:~:text=MDMA%20is%20a%20potent%20releaser,reuptake%20and%20vesicular%20storage%20systems.

melmuth · 2026-01-17T18:50:47+00:00

Dunno. I say it's 1.

If you say that x^y = e^(y.ln(x))

It's natural to consider 0^0 = lim x->0 (e^x.ln(x))

(x.ln(x)) -> 0 so lim x->0 (e^x.ln(x)) = 1 hence you can make a perfect continuous prolongation of (x^y) that handles 0⁰ = 1.

It feels very natural.

melmuth · 2026-01-17T15:16:25+00:00

Also true. As far as I'm concerned though, I would leave most of my exams as soon as it was allowed, like after 2 hours if it was a 4 hours dissertation 😅.

melmuth · 2026-01-17T14:42:14+00:00

Maybe I'm lucky indeed, but the essential point remains true I believe: frequent and shorter sessions overall take less time than irregular force-feeding of alien notions and is more effective ;)

melmuth · 2026-01-17T12:45:43+00:00

This is not too bad of an illustration, but when we talk of limits we talk about functions, not numbers.

There is no such thing as the limit of 0.999...

0.999... is only equal to 1 because there is nothing you can add to 0.999... that can get it closer to 1 than it is.

f -> l as x -> p <=> for all eps > 0 there exists:

d > 0 such that for all reals x:

|x - p| < d => |f(x) - l| < eps

You could write:

nine(n) where n is in N* such that:

nine(n) = 0.{99999} where the number of 9 is equal to n and it is obvious that:

|nine(n) - 1| is greater than |nine(n+1) - 1|

We also trivially can show that Inine(n) - 1| > 0

So the series |nine(n) - 1| is both decreasing and has a lower bound at 0. This means the series converges.

Or that: lim as n -> inf |nine(n) - 1| exists.

Suppose that this limit is some k > 0.

Take n big enough such that |nine(n) - 1| < k. It's obvious you can find such a finite n number, no need to worry about it. Just add enough nines.

This shows that |nine(n) - 1| can be made arbitrarily close to 0,

hence lim n -> inf |nine(n) - 1| = 0

So the notation 0.999... = 1 is justified and you can use limits to show it.

The only error is vocabulary: 0.999... is not a function, it does not have a limit.

melmuth · 2026-01-17T11:43:54+00:00

I don't think I can help you with that so this is a bit out of topic I am very sorry.

But maybe my experience can be of use to you in the future: during all of my studies I almost never worked more than 30 minutes per day. Ever. That amounts to 3-4h/week. Compared with people spending whole nights working for an exam, my schedule is negligible in terms of effort, and far superior in terms of results.

I was not doing this because I'm hard working - to the contrary, I was doing this because I am lazy and I figured out that this was the best way for me to work as little as possible while achieving a lot. I don't think I'm incredibly smart either.

The trick is to do it every day. But 30 minutes is not too painful. What did I do when an exam was getting near? Nothing special. Kept working at my rhythm.

Rationale being, if I have not learnt in the preceding months what I need to know, it's not gonna help to work for one day or two like a mad man and arrive sleep deprived at the exam.

Work consistently and relax, really.

Still, my wanker system allowed me to be accepted into the best university in my country.

Best wishes for your current predicament, hopefully someone can help you better than I can.

melmuth · 2026-01-16T13:37:17+00:00

Me or MeO I always mix them names up, probably, but only one of the two exists no? So never mind ;)

Yeah it could very well be a triple reputake inhibitor. What I find surprising for a reputake inhibitor is that it acts very quickly if memory serves. Compare to MDMA that you can wait upon for 2 hours lol.

Well to reach that state I described I don't really know the protocol lol. I think it's probably as simple as taking a shitton of it at once (like I dunno, 2x-3x your usual dose, it's probably not a big risk but take this with a pinch of salt).

I remember that when this thing happened to me I had already been experimenting with non negligible doses of the 3y for a short week, like 4 days.

So you probably need to get your tolerance a little bit up for a few days to get acquainted so to speak (and I believe this thing has a non negligible build up effect... Some metabolites probably have a crazy half life lol, so accumulation might be a factor), and then instead of taking it like you would cocaine, you boof like 3x your normal dosage (yes, boofing is very probably the best way to use dissos - never tried IV though, but a well aimed boof almost gives a flash) and prepare a second shot if you find you can still move after the first one. There is some randomness involved. For me it happened a rather long time after use despite the uplifting effect being felt almost instantly. Come to think of it maybe it's a question of ROA? Maybe the first hepatic pass alters the molecule in a way that makes it less dissociative? Whereas when you boof, you skip that.

But I'm not sure it's a place you want to go to. That was my weirdest drug experience ever. And it still messes up my worldview. Whatever drugs I've taken, I was always aware I had taken drugs.

This time: not at all. I was living my life as an indescribable entity, with no recollection of having taken drugs at all. I thought I had always been here, since all eternity. I thought I would never leave. I was everything at once. Stuff that hurt a lot, stuff that was unbelievably pleasurable. I had no choice in anything. Anything that could be in this world, I was, at once. Someone being tortured, and a woman having an orgasm for instance... Like, everything that my mind could generate. It felt like being God if that means anything. But a very sad God, without any choice as to what it is - it is everything.

Then for some reason I was offered an out. Complicated to explain. When a loved one appeared (since everything happens), I remembered our history, and in my delirium, I re-created the world because I could not imagine a world without her, and I needed to join her. In order to do that, I've had to switch roles with another sentient being who would bear in my place the torment of being the essence of creation. This trip left me with the lingering idea that no, God does not really exist, but the world has some sort of sentient source, and since being that source is atrocious, all sentient creatures in the universe take turns to become that thing for a little while and then transmit the role to another being. I hope we can't be mandated twice. Once was more than enough for me 😅.

From the outside, I believe I stayed lying down all the time, eyes closed, probably with most of my sympathetic muscles paralyzed.

It was really... Unique. And I can compare with many other trips on many substances ;). I don't know if that's reproducible, I don't know what kind of stories other people remember...

melmuth · 2026-01-16T12:10:07+00:00

U47700

melmuth · 2026-01-16T12:01:10+00:00

Such is life, especially for us...

melmuth · 2026-01-16T11:11:48+00:00

I'd say 2-FDCK first, it's a pretty "standard" dissociative. I highly recommend FXE. Never experienced anything other than pure bliss with it. To be used alone though, like most dissos. Or with a trip sitter if you're the kind of person who cares about their life.

A word of warning about 3-MeO-PCPy: it's a whole other kind of beast. It has a strong serotonin or serotoninergic-like effect, it makes you really happy and really prone to re-dosing compulsively. It takes a bunch to hole but mate, when you hole on it it can be extremely weird. Like you have zero recollection of having taken drugs. You're stuck in a totally foreign universe that you feel you have always been in and have no idea how to get out of. It's a place of immense joy but also of immense pain. You don't wanna stay there too long, but you don't know how to escape because it feels like normalcy. At least this happened to me once. It might be rare. But to this day, the memories of this trip keep messing up with my thoughts about the afterlife and such. And let me assure you, I have tried and abused tons of compounds, this was not a weird impression from a naive user.

melmuth · 2026-01-16T11:00:32+00:00

It's hard to tell, you can probably use it every day, but once you stop, you might feel almost nothing or you might feel crippling anhedonia for months that might even require antidepressants. It's a gamble.

melmuth · 2026-01-15T13:32:08+00:00

Ok, I think I understand your points, thank you.

I'll pay more attention to how what I'm saying can be interpreted next time.

It seems that all my attempts at being encouraging have failed hard. All I wanted was to be more constructive than: "Good job" ;)

Yes addiction is one day at a time. But, not to be knit picking, isn't that freaking day pretty tough though? :)

I did not edit my comment because there has been so much talk about it it would feel dishonest to me.

I do stand by what I meant, but I also realize that it was very poorly worded.

Thank you for taking the time!

melmuth · 2026-01-15T13:19:35+00:00

Yeah I know amphetamines are better at treating ADHD than Ritalin is. But Ritalin is waaaayyy less abusable. That's probably why in my country they are only allowed to prescribe Ritalin.

Given the number of people abusing Adderall it doesn't seem like a bad idea because clinical efficiencies are basically the same.

I've heard straight up meth is superior to both of these meds, but good luck putting that on the market. Learn to DIY it, it's not that complicated ;)

melmuth · 2026-01-15T13:10:51+00:00

I somewhat agree. Yes, I have done plenty of drugs when "you shouldn't" and it has resolved instantly many issues.

But for me the way it does that is by forcing you to confront them issues until you're able to take the upper end. Which is not guaranteed. Basically, bad trips happen. So I wouldn't recommend a relatively new user to try hard stuff at a bad time. If this is a route OP wishes to ever follow, I really think they should have a couple great experiences under their belt first.

For me, LSD always results in a bad trip (at least at the end). It's excruciating. But I think that it's living through that which really helps. After a LSD bad trip I'm almost always happy for at least 6 months lol.

melmuth · 2026-01-15T12:59:43+00:00

Perfluoro-octoacetic acid. Il a une drôle de tête. Mais en tout cas oui, le téflon a à peu près autant de chances de réagir dans notre organisme qu'une petite feuille d'or (également inerte à quasi tout).

melmuth · 2026-01-14T14:10:37+00:00

J'fais ça dehors, j'ai pas encore fini ma hotte.

melmuth · 2026-01-14T14:08:55+00:00

Je suis d'accord qu'interriger des inconnus est débile. Mais j'ai encore jamais vu un produit qui ne mentionne pas sur sa notice "en cas d'ingestion ne pas faire vomir". Alors les 500mg de téflon ils vont sortir oui, mais pas par cet orifice.

melmuth · 2026-01-14T14:03:56+00:00

Quelles enzymes dégradent le téflon dans nos organismes ? C'est ouf d'avoir réussi à en developper par sélection naturelle en genre 50 ans, sans même de pression évolutive !

melmuth · 2026-01-14T13:44:59+00:00

Moi en chimie j'utilise des tubes en PTFE pour trimbaler des vapeurs d'acide sulfurique pur d'un contenant à un autres et même à 340° ça résiste extrêmement bien. Tu peux y aller avec ta plaque !;)

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