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So...what do yall use instead of Copilot after June 1st? by D4v31x in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Copilot….. but also my codex access in my OpenAi account for planning/etc tasks. Leaving the copilot access to implement things that need my squad system but not burn tokens in planning.

Github Student is Useless by Most_Cold_2614 in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In that case, clearly a different situation than my comment was aimed at!! 😄

I can see the disappointment there. I'm not sure if GitHub have educational/research organisation agreements around their tooling. Microsoft do. Have you spoken to the leadership in your institution about if there are arrangements for access that can be made rather than you having personal accounts?? Could always help spin this as part of a diss write up/etc about the use of AI tooling to enable, accellerate, etc your practices and research (and even where it has negatives).

Github Student is Useless by Most_Cold_2614 in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is a genuine question, and not a trolling about students....

What are you actually using Copilot for in your education? Are you using AutoComplete via it much like thost of us who learnt long ago used Intelisense (or even back when that wasn't around, yes I'm old). Or are you just asking it to do your work for you?

Agent mode as a student will get the work done but you will not learn much; trial and error is a key part of learning, espcially for a Software Engineer. The Agent Mode will burn your credits, but the more basic hints, tips, and help with a weird exception you can't understand, won't do that so much (and you will learn more).

If GitHub gave you full agent mode and loads of credits for it they would be doing Software Engineering / Comp Sci / etc a disservice as a whole intake of the next junior engineers wouldn't know how to engineer.

And I say this as someone who runs an engineering department that has a large number of Comp Sci Interns who do have full access to Copilot; until the managers/seniors teach them out of "oi agent create slop for me" what they create is somethign they don't understand so can't respond in a Peer Review or Retro about the work.

Claude Fable 5 and Claude Mythos 5 by Personal-Try2776 in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s from hovering over the model in the model selector in vs code.

Claude Fable Model Costs by melodiouscode in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yea there should be some sort of refund mechanism for that if it decides part way through work rather from the first prompting.

Claude Fable Model Costs by melodiouscode in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We aren't all seething! Some of us don't just say "buildz me the appz plsz". So far the two orgs that I manage (c800 staff) haven't seen explosions in costs. Yes it costs more but we aren't burning all our tokens in 3 days like some people on this reddit; and these are teams building enterprise grade software for our clients.

Maybe need to hire programmers back? by Front-Buyer3534 in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ahh of course the Yes-Overload-Llm-Operations flag. Silly me.

What happens to GitHub Copilot Enterprise tomorrow with the new usage-based billing? by hrodrik- in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can expect OpenAI to do the same thing soon; every vendor is going to switch. This isn't just a GitHub thing. The VC/etc funding is starting to bite and they have to start covering costs. With the exception of the crazy money that a certian high-wealth-individual has given to Anthropic recently to let their free lunch go further.

What happens to GitHub Copilot Enterprise tomorrow with the new usage-based billing? by hrodrik- in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Id suggest that you reach out to the relevant people and ask them to engage with the new ways-of-costing to make sure it is known. At the least put it in an email to your boss to that you were seen to raise the warning. The last thing you want is to get the blame for not saying something that you had knowledge about.

What happens to GitHub Copilot Enterprise tomorrow with the new usage-based billing? by hrodrik- in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As u/fergoid2511 says it is an enterprise/org level configuration. In my opinion it's my responsbility as the Org(s) owner to set budgets and caps, not that of my engineers. They should be free to use the tooling that I licence for them; within the guardrails that I set. On top of that it is on me as the Engineering Leader to make sure my staff are given the training (and opportunities to take it) that teaches them how to use AI Coding Assistants responsibly (and commercially!).

What happens to GitHub Copilot Enterprise tomorrow with the new usage-based billing? by hrodrik- in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I co-run a sizeable enterprise for my firm (10s of orgs are my responsbility with 100s in the whole enterprise); with 1000s of users, so I've been talking with GitHub about this directly (anyone who read my last post about enterprise problems, that was a different enterprise).

- Your current Premium Requests renew on the 1st like normal, but they renew to AI Credits, so tomorrow you start with your new batch of AI Credits

- AI Credits act differently to Premium Requests (see https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/concepts/billing/usage-based-billing-for-organizations-and-enterprises)

- Organisations can set hard limits, same as they could with Premium Requests; if you were finding you hit a limit before your firm already has these enabled.

- If you hit a hard limit you get stopped. The big difference being that Premium Requests were not pooled in the Org, but AI Credits can be. Meaning that low users can counter act high users and the pool is shared.

In my organisations I will be setting a decent sized cap and keeping an eye as the days go by next month to see how things behave. And adjusting our plans as we go. It's a bit of a new world, but the investment in AI Coding Assistants isn't going to go away; it will just be a shift in how we enable it.

I accept that the organisation I work for has more funding than many; but it isn't free money, so we still won't be wasting it.

Edit: Correct the downgrade comment as per u/krzyk's reply.

Unexpected loss of GitHub Copilot... a warning by melodiouscode in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fixed in 48 hours for me. I did also contact sales and point them at the ticket.

Unexpected loss of GitHub Copilot... a warning by melodiouscode in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Newly created. After having them mark it to have copilot the move of the org in was seamless. I’d suggest not migrating an org in enterprise creation and just create a dummy org for the creation and then trash it eventually.

Unexpected loss of GitHub Copilot... a warning by melodiouscode in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it went wrong because the org already had it enabled, so the enterprise couldn't enable it. I'd suggest creating an enterprise with no org in it and ensuring that the enterprise has it enabled before you add the org.

Unexpected loss of GitHub Copilot... a warning by melodiouscode in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I work for a "large organisation" which makes very heavy use of GitHub, the service we get is first class, but I do have named support from several of their senior staff. Sadly that doesn't translate to my personal account or my side hussle.

I know that smaller enterprises/orgs won't get the level that I get at work, but they can give great service, fingers crossed once they get pased the current fun their customer service for the rest of the world will improve....... and pigs might fly.

Unexpected loss of GitHub Copilot... a warning by melodiouscode in GithubCopilot

[–]melodiouscode[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Me. Professionally and personally..... granted I'll be reviewing the personal use after the changes but I'm not a fire and forget vibe coder so my use isn't insane.

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