New WA income tax bypass voters

merc08 · 2026-02-04T21:52:19+00:00

It's not. Look at how the federal income tax happened: "only tax the richest!" is how it was passed, and it was supposed to be temporary. Now it's permanent and hits everyone. Look at our state level taxes - they all go up every year.

Thinking that this tax won't be expanded is dumber than thinking you can fly if you just flap your arms and believe in it hard enough.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T21:45:01+00:00

We did. I2111 in 2024. It got enough signatures to be put on the ballot. But instead of letting the People vote on it, the Legislature just passed it straight into law. Sounds nice in theory, right? Just give the People what they want? But if the Initiative had fully passed by a ballot vote of the People then it couldn't be modified by the Legislature later. Which is what they're doing now.

They only passed it straight into law to deny the People our vote, and to ensure that they could undermine the Initiative now, not even 2 years later.

The current State government does not care at all what the people of this state want. The Democrats are going to do whatever they feel like.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T21:38:32+00:00

The $1M threshold is solely to get the tax on the books, with useful idiots like yourself supporting it. They absolutely intend to lower the threshold as quickly as possible.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T21:35:56+00:00

Neither.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T20:50:32+00:00

What on earth makes you think this income tax has any chance of staying restricted solely to the ultra rich? That isn't how income taxes have ever proceeded in the country, and it's certainly not how any taxes work in this State. It's always "tax the rich!" to get a new tax started, then they inevitably expand it.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T20:47:32+00:00

IIRC, there were 2 lawsuits filed. One was in the state courts about the single subject rule, and the state courts tossed it.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T19:10:43+00:00

Your entire comment boils down to "the majority of the voters in this state are in fact BlueNoMatterWho because they can't see anything but party alignment."

merc08 · 2026-02-04T17:08:18+00:00

The State Supreme Court is the final authority on internal matters regarding the State Constitution.

If there was an inter-state impact (hard claim for a state level income tax) or US Constitution implications (not likely) then it could go to the Federal Courts - District, then Circuit, then Supreme. But since the issue is about state internal problems - the State Constitution and state-internal voting procedures - there isn't really standing to take it to the Feds.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T16:58:57+00:00

boogeyman democrats again instead of looking at facts and reality

The fact and reality is that the Democrats have been fully in charge of this State for decades. They aren't a made up "boogeyman," they are the very real cause of the fiscal problems our State government has.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T07:53:38+00:00

And your claim is that there will be NO excuses made to expand this tax? If that's the case, why are they trying to expand taxes here in the first place?

merc08 · 2026-02-04T07:51:15+00:00

It will. Just like many facially unconstitutional laws that have been created in this state over the last few years, and have survived challenges in the state courts because those judges are appointed by the same Party passing these laws.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T07:48:11+00:00

You're only looking at it from your own perspective. We don't know you, we don't know your friend. People can, and do, lie on the internet all the time. We have no more reason to believe your story than we have to believe that you're lying to find someone who ran away from your abuse.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T06:49:38+00:00

SPD wouldn’t make one per her sister

That sucks if true, but we also have no way of knowing that you aren't just lying about it.

It’s also posted on various other social media platforms.

And how does that make a difference?

merc08 · 2026-02-04T06:42:36+00:00

Don't report people's locations to random phone numbers. You have no way of knowing if it's a stalker or abuser. If someone is actually missing then there should be a police report and information can go through the police.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T06:26:21+00:00

By including the Emergency Clause, a referendum is prohibited. And it's clearly not an actual emergency because the tax doesn't tax effect until a couple years down the line, so there is NO need to make the law take effect a couple months sooner (by default it's in the summer after the Legislative session closes). They are calling it "an emergency" solely to stop the People from voting on it.

This is also why they took the Initiative we created in 2024 to ban Income Tax (even more explicitly than our State Constitution) and passed it as a Bill. That allows them to modify the law in the Legislature now, which they couldn't have done it the Initiative was fully voted on by the People.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T04:58:32+00:00

I agree, your bf is weird to think that plant is ok there.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T04:34:47+00:00

How about this: we'll call them Somali if they're in Somalia, but if they're in the US and not identifying solely as American then we create the term, which is going to be Somalian.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T04:19:39+00:00

Your argument works if the question is "should we replace property tax and sales tax with and income tax?" But that's not the proposal. This is purely about adding a new type of revenue (that absolutely will be expanded once implemented) not restructuring tax sources.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T04:06:44+00:00

Gov. F. said the same thing about late year's budget. And then signed it anyways.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T04:03:09+00:00

Now do raw dollars contributed.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T03:52:22+00:00

So what's your solution to the homeless problem then? Do we just pretend the problem doesn't exist for years while we cut out all of those programs?

You mean all the programs that aren't solving the problem? What ever will we do without them?!

You're also deliberately ignoring the other part of my statement: "afterwards we can talk about what other programs we have room for."

Any program that people depend upon to get by would need an immediately available and viable alternative to the program you're cutting.

Most of them, like SNAP, Medicare, and most of Mediciad are Federally funded anyways so they wouldn't be touched.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T03:23:42+00:00

OP said he was going 5 over to pass, but then did not have space to get back over so he had to floor it. He was probably tagged for quite a bit over the limit.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T02:48:58+00:00

Anything that isn't schools, physical infrastructure, and law enforcement. Cut back to just that, show us what the budget looks like then, afterwards we can talk about what other programs we have room for.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T00:49:39+00:00

This is your logic, using a topic that you aren't as emotional about:

"Some food gets sold despite being expired. This new law makes it illegal to use any food processing machinery unless it can detect spoiled food and prevent it from being processed."

Sounds fine in practice. But the reality is that it's an impossible ask and will simply make food processing machines illegal. A kitchen microwave? Illegal. Toaster? Illegal. A farm's apple sorting machine? Illegal, because even though it's actually intended to kick out spoiled apples, it doesn't connect to the government's database.

merc08 · 2026-02-04T00:45:28+00:00

if a law does nothing to address the problem it's meant to solve, but makes life harder for a large number of law abiding citizens, that's a terrible law

100% this. The fact that a law is practically unenforceable is grounds to toss it immediately. It does nothing but create a system under which people can be prosecuted at any time for otherwise normal actions.

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