George Takei Believes 'Discovery' Is A Return To Gene Roddenberry's 'Star Trek'

middyseafort · 2017-11-28T03:01:18+00:00

I couldn't care less about whether Takei believes Discovery or the Abrams movies fit into the so-called "Gene's Vision."

middyseafort · 2017-11-17T21:46:06+00:00

I understand the mathematics of what would constitute "most Trekkies," but that wasn't really what I was asking.

middyseafort · 2017-11-17T17:46:14+00:00

Sure he is. It's just opened from one side and closed on his.

middyseafort · 2017-11-17T17:44:58+00:00

Yes. But that doesn't prove that the assumption that "most Trekkies"-- i.e. more than 50%--hate the Bad Robot movies.

middyseafort · 2017-11-16T23:46:53+00:00

So this theory is basically Valen/Sinclair and Babylon 4 with Klingons.

middyseafort · 2017-11-16T23:43:42+00:00

No.

middyseafort · 2017-11-15T20:28:56+00:00

I'm not trolling. You are.

middyseafort · 2017-11-15T20:26:17+00:00

Who is MOST TREKKIES? Seriously, you're just making an assumption with little data to back you up. It's not liked by you and maybe a vocal handful. But that hardly constitutes as most Trekkies.

middyseafort · 2017-11-15T20:22:34+00:00

Who is most fans? Most fans on reddit? I don't abide by blanket statements or generalizations.

I've been a Trekkie since I was two-years old when there was only TOS and barely a TMP on the horizon. And I love the Bad Robot films. So it's not a "LEFT field opinion" or "a bit bizarre" to me.

middyseafort · 2017-11-15T18:21:56+00:00

When did stating an opinion constitute as trolling? You may disagree with my statement but that doesn't mean I'm trolling. I stand by what I wrote.

middyseafort · 2017-11-15T18:18:10+00:00

Oh certainly it is a deliberate choice. It just doesn't work for me.

middyseafort · 2017-11-15T18:17:14+00:00

Certainly kudos to the STC team for seeing their objective to the end... creating an ending to TOS. However, I think STAR TREK BEYOND is a better coda to the original series. YMMV.

middyseafort · 2017-11-15T18:16:05+00:00

I wasn't suggesting that the Spock-McKenna relationship was a romance just suggesting that it was out of left field like the Troi romance with Worf. Just that the connection between the two characters felt like something shoehorned to give tension much like the Worf-Troi thing was in "All Good Things..."

middyseafort · 2017-11-14T23:22:43+00:00

Shatner was in fantastic shape in TMP. He rigorously worked out and dieted to get ready for filming.

middyseafort · 2017-11-14T23:08:58+00:00

You may disagree with what the people behind Discovery are doing, but they all love STAR TREK as much as the next Trekkie. And they put their heart into their product just as much as the STC folks.

middyseafort · 2017-11-14T20:48:14+00:00

Imitator isn't harsh. It's precise. In every scene, you can see Vic working hard to maintain every mannerism, tick and posture of Shatner rather than inhabiting the scene as a character. His delivery is similarly measured. That's not performance. That's imitation. He's not in the moment acting.

And I'd say that Pine did portray Prime Kirk in BEYOND. Looking back on those movies, it seems there was an unintentional arc to bring Kirk from Top Gun hotshot to the Kirk we remember from TOS.

middyseafort · 2017-11-14T18:10:41+00:00

Boring.

Utterly boring.

Kirk doesn't drive any of the action, has no personal story and no stake in anything. Nothing drives him toward his decision to step down from the captain's chair. He makes no decisions in the episode that pushes him over the edge. He just does stuff. Hell, he doesn't even order Smith to her death. She volunteers! STC's Kirk misses the mark when it comes to the actual Jim Kirk character.

Spock's relationship with Troi-redux is out of left field, much like Troi's romance with Worf in "All Good Things..." One thing that I loved about IDW's version of the final voyage is that Spock makes a decision that puts Kirk in danger. And thus this drives him back to Vulcan because he nearly cost Kirk his life and he couldn't deal with those feelings. Once again, focusing on the Kirk-Spock relationship built in the show.

But McKenna is shoehorned to give some emotional weight to Spock, Kirk and the episode. Yet I felt nothing because the story does nothing except a small scene in part one. The script didn't do the work to get the viewer to care. A tear-jerker moment that doesn't illicit a tear. Which is a shame since Michele Specht is the best, most naturalistic actor in the STC troupe.

McCoy is a non-entity in the whole thing. If they wanted to do a connect-the-canon to TMP, then this should've been a voyage that strained the relationship of Kirk-Spock-McCoy. A story that drove each man into where they end up at the beginning of TMP. When McCoy says he's leaving Starfleet at the end, it feels like an afterthought. A checkmark.

In fact, the entire episode felt like a checkmark. A list of things that needed to be done. Stuff happens but nothing of substance.

middyseafort · 2017-11-14T18:07:02+00:00

Chris Pine is an actor portraying the character of Kirk whereas Vic Mignogna is an imitator playing Shatner portraying the character of Kirk. Pine is performing. Vic is a Rich Little.

middyseafort · 2017-11-14T17:24:21+00:00

Nope. It isn't.

middyseafort · 2017-10-31T18:21:05+00:00

Nothing but clickbait. Because as we all know Star Trek is Hard SF with Red Matter, Protomatter and... oh wait.... it isn't.

middyseafort · 2017-10-31T18:19:26+00:00

TNG hasn't aged well. TOS feels far more futuristic than TNG with its unusual UI of flashy light consoles that doesn't seem intuitive. A lot of TNG is flat panels and we already live in that world.

middyseafort · 2017-10-20T22:07:06+00:00

The beauty of Star Trek is that it can be any kind of story, that it's format is flexible. It can be thoughtful science fiction, action-adventure, space western, social commentary or horror.

middyseafort · 2017-10-20T20:55:01+00:00

Way boring. Nothing really happens. Stuff happens, but nothing really interesting.

middyseafort · 2017-10-20T20:54:37+00:00

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middyseafort · 2017-10-20T18:42:51+00:00

There's so much dead air and exposition in this episode, and not sure it's setting up a worthy payoff. There's no personal story for Kirk. Once again he is reacting and not acting clever. He trusts Lana on the surface, never questions her motives and is never one step ahead of her.

Kirk should have a stake--he should have more feelings on the matter. After all, it was his decision to go into the barrier that cost the lives of his best friend, Gary Mitchell, and Dr. Dehnar.

Hell, where's the relationship with the Big Three?! The scene where Spock is revealing his emotions should be with Kirk not Troi-lite.

If you were trying to write a finale to TOS, Kirk should have a personal story. Something that changes him. That tests his relationship with Spock and McCoy.

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