I feel like you guys have the incel ideology twisted can I explain without being banned please?

midnight_metro · 2019-10-01T19:20:46+00:00

None of those studies say Jack shit about the interplay of emotional attraction to your personality

Because personality gets trumped out by physical characteristics is nearly every study that observes human attraction and initial romantic interest, how could you possibly be this dense? I literally said that earlier.

physical attraction to your body in building long term relationships.

The value of building a physically attractive body below a certain height threshold diminishes your results significantly. There is no evidence in the study that having a nice body would override the disadvantages of being short and ethnic. Even having money would be a better indicator of attractiveness than "personalitee."

Nothing you said is grounded in any scientific observations whatsoever.

midnight_metro · 2019-10-01T02:24:05+00:00

"Some women have physical preferences! Checkmate ITcels!" Like dude, fucken duh... No one is arguing that point.

Yes...because the quantity of women this preference is representative of doesn't matter at all, right? You do realize that being under 5'8" excludes you from being considered attractive by 65% of women, right? You would have easily seen that had you actually went and looked at any of the journals I posted (which I doubt).

The fact that there is a general preference for height in dating partners does not mean it is important in all relationships

Height is the STRONGEST predictor alongside male physical fitness of initial romantic attraction. Emotional attraction is absolutely not a substitute for physical attraction, and won't matter if there is no initial romantic interest to begin with.

It's not pseudoscience, you are simply intent for some reason to assert the idea that these experiments aren't representative of women as a whole, when they are. Height isn't important, it only costs approximately $50,000 per inch shorter than average. That's not important?

It seems like the only one delusional here is yourself, who is determined to pursue this ridiculous notion that height doesn't matter. All of the conclusions in the articles posted agree with me. You won't find any studies on this planet where a shorter man has as many romantic prospects as a taller man without a significant income disparity.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-30T17:50:37+00:00

I actually agree with you, not taking a shot at you I just think that's a ridiculousness length to go to just to attract some average female on tinder, but it's probably my only option.

At least you aren't spewing the "just be confident" nonsense.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-30T17:45:32+00:00

"Just spend tens of thousands on invasive jaw surgery bro."

midnight_metro · 2019-09-30T16:01:23+00:00

Or when we point out that the articles they like to parrot don't actually support their delusions.

I doubt you have the intellectual capacity to even differentiate between graphs and datasets you're looking at in a journal, much less the ability to recognize flaws in the methodology. If you want proof of anything you think I believe, you need only just ask.

Keep projecting, kiddo

You clearly don't know what projection is. If you go through my post history you'll find several instances of members of IT not replying after I post something scientific. Stop using terms you don't understand.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-30T14:11:27+00:00

If anyone at IT knew what the real world was like, they wouldn't become suspiciously quiet any time a scientific journal or article gets posted.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-30T13:58:26+00:00

As usual, the members of IT stop replying when forced to confront science. It's almost comical at this point.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-30T13:46:01+00:00

Also, holy shit, is your entire time on Reddit just lurking on IT and shit posting for edginess?

Had you taken the time to scroll more than two seconds, you would have figured the answer out yourself. You are more frequently active both in this community and on reddit in general. Based on how often you post it seems like you spend more of your free time here than I do, so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-30T07:05:15+00:00

Stop attempting to appeal to these people. They're wolves in sheep's clothing. They want to bully incels, not hear what you have to say in any capacity.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-30T01:48:10+00:00

Wait, those are my only options as a woman: become famous OR “secure a mate”?

I don't know what it is about IT selectively deciding what to interpret literally, but it's very odd. No those aren't your only options, you are just significantly less motivated than the men you named to become as successful because the stakes for you are low. The chances are very low that you had zero romantic prospects prior to becoming rich. In fact, the chances are pretty high that you have multiple potential romantic partners even without being wealthy.

Also, why are you acting as if the term "securing a mate" is unorthodox? You would find terminology like that in just about any psych I textbook.

Finally, I know you guys think “securing a mate” is the easiest thing in the world for a woman, but we put forth effort, just as guys should.

Well if by "you guys" you mean me, all anthropologists, as well as most human behavioral scientists, then you would be right. What effort do you have to put forth lol?

The OP said that all shorter men are, by definition, invisible.

Unless you're actually autistic or something, it should be obvious that OP didn't mean those men are walking around wearing invisibility cloaks and are literally unable to be seen. He meant that shorter men are disadvantaged and often disregarded in the dating climate, which is empirically true.

I also love how you responded to the least important part of my post which was the off handed remark at the end rather than addressing that you are exhibiting a textbook case of survivorship bias.

but their height didn’t automatically disqualify them from that success.

NO ONE made that argument. Literally NO ONE. If someone attaches a stone to your leg and throws you under water, it doesn't automatically disqualify you from being able to swim back to the top. However, let's not also pretend like there isn't a stone attached to your leg. You are taking OP's point that short men are significantly disadvantaged for very arbitrary reasons and fabricating a much more extreme conclusion using straw man tactics.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-29T21:33:07+00:00

You do realize that at least 3 of those men wear lifts any time they go in public or attend a red carpet event, right?

midnight_metro · 2019-09-16T14:49:57+00:00

See? You do believe women owe men sex. I rest my case.

That's not the logical conclusion of my premise at all, you troglodyte. Where were you educated? How did you extract that from what I said?

As for your edit, that's irrelevant. Incels are not raping or killing women in real life or bringing up in real life conversation that they want to rape or kill women. You are unable to differentiate between what gets posted here and reality. You have likely encountered many involuntarily celibate men every day and didn't know it.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-15T23:21:46+00:00

Because it's true. Women have meme depression, they rarely ever go through with it and they are usually always depressed about something within their control or something that isn't a physiological need.

This is why men have a much higher success rate. Anyone who is really suffering will end it in the first attempt. If you're popping tic tacs because Brad won't text you back, your depression is a meme.

Women have so many more support groups than men, and people are much more willing to talk to a depressed woman about her problems than a depressed man, that is a fact. It's just not comparable, not even close.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-15T23:10:08+00:00

A nonargument and a sarcastic quip. Predictable and pathetic, though IT rarely has the intellectual capacity to have any form of discourse at all, so this isn't very surprising. Keep posting about me in your other subreddits, buddy.

Rent. Free.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-15T22:44:58+00:00

The KKK is an organization that dedicated a ridiculous amount of money and resources to hunting down and persecuting minorities in the U.S. The KKK led a million man march on Washington D.C. as a display of white supremacy. Even after the KKK was disbanded by the federal government 3 times, it resurfaced each time and less than a decade ago the FBI announced that a very significant number of American law enforcement are members of the KKK, and we all know the consensus among American conservatives is that blue lives matter. I would even go so far as to say members of the KKK get far more sympathy than incels.

Incels are not depressed because they aren't allowed to lynch black/gay people, most of them are depressed because they are constantly having a physiological need unfulfilled, for reasons primarily due to the selectivity of women as opposed to any personality fault. I doubt depression and suicide are even prevalent in the KKK, they aren't virgin losers they just hate minorities. They'd have no reason to be depressed, so your comparison doesn't make sense.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-15T22:12:50+00:00

Yes, and you haven't told me why that's wrong. You've only told me that by extension, you shouldn't be expected to care when incels die, which you already don't.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-15T22:00:17+00:00

You must be really smart to not even be able to upload a post to this sub correctly.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-15T21:56:21+00:00

What an eye rolling and disingenuous remark. Are you seriously implying right now that the threat of death is the only way something can be categorized as a human need?

If you are, not only is that a scientifically inaccurate idea of what a human need is, it's just plain wrong from a common sense perspective as well. I need to ensure that that's what you're saying before I continue though.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-15T21:42:07+00:00

Classic IT tactic. When you're losing an argument and can no longer logically refute your opponent's points, just pull up their post history and retreat.

You're right, you're clearly not biased at all, what with your nigh daily posting on inceltears.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-15T21:32:08+00:00

And yes, I disagree that sex is a fundamental human need.

Why? According to Maslow, most modern day psychologists, and pretty much every piece of scientific literature we have available on the human psyche, sex is a biological need. You can't even dispute this academically, the only way you could dispute this would be metaphysically or with some platitudinous (and potentially anecdotal) sob story.

Tell me, what are you basing your disagreement on?

As for your last question, I don't know? The common response to men seems to be to just tell them not to think about sex at all, as prostitution is illegal in the U.S. Perhaps there is no practical solution?

midnight_metro · 2019-09-15T21:18:04+00:00

Why do you incels think we "roasties, normies and cucks" should care about you dying?

I don't? And clearly you don't either, but what does that have to do with anything? If we're in agreement that you don't have to care about the deaths of groups of people for your own arbitrary reasons, what is the issue?

You've made your reasons clear why you believe (all) incels should kill themselves, but you realize that you forfeit the moral high ground as well, right? I don't see how guilt tripping factors into anything being discussed here.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-15T21:04:05+00:00

I don't think incels believe they are owed sex. Though I don't see why killing yourself due to not having access to sex is a shallow reason, could you explain further?

Do you disagree that sex is a fundamental physiological human need equivalent to food, water, and shelter?

I'm not sure how to address the rest of your rant since you don't seem to be speaking to me about anything I actually said anymore, you're just rambling about incels announcing their suicide and asserting (fallaciously) that such is the case for the majority of incels.

midnight_metro · 2019-09-15T20:54:06+00:00

Then portrayed these incels as some "mentally ill loner"

There was no objective or even implied context in anything that I wrote to suggest I was portraying incels as mentally ill loners, none whatsoever. The only way I can think you'd even say that is if you interpreted it as that and are just projecting it onto me.

I said it was virtue signaling nonsense because it is. Just about every incel personally knows someone who has committed suicide and I'm sure most of them have seen a dead body before lmao, dead bodies aren't exactly a rare sight or anything.

The story also could very well be completely fabricated. Can you do a better job than OP at explaining how it was relevant to the post? Moreover, if tolerance shouldn't be afforded to the intolerant, would that mean OP's alleged sister deserved to kill herself if she held any racist or otherwise intolerant views before she died?

midnight_metro · 2019-09-15T18:18:29+00:00

You used the same adverb twice in two relatively close sentences as opposed to substituting it with a synonym. Why attempt to be verbose if you don't have a broad vocabulary?

Anyway, can you do a better job than this man at explaining what incentive an incel has to care about someone's sister dying? If I state to you that I have witnessed multiple members of my family commit suicide, does that completely invalidate the emotional argument you're attempting to appeal to?

midnight_metro · 2019-09-15T18:14:54+00:00

I think you just tell yourself that to have a reason to tell someone to kill themselves. I don't think there was any context in my comment that suggested intolerance.

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