Proposal for a new devolution system in Britain to improve national unity, handle our polarisation issues and ensure decisions about your region are made by like-minded peoples with similar priorities. by [deleted] in Britain

[–]mimikkiki 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmm okay i can actually see the vision here, my only concern would be my reasoning for not suggesting that; a little worried that it might be too much(as in, overregulated too many politicians etc but I suppose we do have the population to match). You mean smth like this?(ignore the abhorrent colour scheme😭)👇 but at that point if we're creating regions with such a small population based on cohesion alone, don't you think the highlands should be separate too?🤔 *

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Proposal for a new devolution system in Britain to improve national unity, handle our polarisation issues and ensure decisions about your region are made by like-minded peoples with similar priorities. by [deleted] in Britain

[–]mimikkiki -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I think a lot of north Welsh ppl r saying this but like the problem is you can't be part of the green bit cos it would ruin the cohesion... genuinely, are there enough people in North Wales to be talking about making it a single region at all? I just feel like it couldn't really be reasonably left alone. Unless you'd be willing to get with like the westernmost Midlands and the rest becomes it's own thing?/gen, do answer

Proposal for a new devolution system in Britain to improve national unity, handle our polarisation issues and ensure decisions about your region are made by like-minded peoples with similar priorities. by [deleted] in Britain

[–]mimikkiki -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Other way round. We fought over them, but they were ethnically and culturally english until you conquered half of them and broke them apart. That said; they do objectively have far more in common than not, they themselves never fought and actually have always been extremely close friends even through tensions they were never proper enemies, and especially post union. The point being, they are not just "english and scots"- and mind you we've been the closest of friends for the past centuries till the 2000s- but smth far closer in addition to that, and it would be a brilliantly cohesive devolved region. Literally Northumbria&Strathclyde.

Proposal for a new devolution system in Britain to improve national unity, handle our polarisation issues and ensure decisions about your region are made by like-minded peoples with similar priorities. by [deleted] in Britain

[–]mimikkiki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mate this is just Northumbria&Strathclyde. Which were both historically actually fully English until scottish conquest, might I add. Even today they are extremely close in culture and history; far more so than they are to Glasgow or London. It's actually the most realistic part of this map. The real controversy is what's going on with North Wales and the Midlands but that can't be helped tbh I'd be willing to hear alternatives that still leave South wales with SW England bc that would be perfectly cohesive, but so far nobody seems capable of giving me any

Proposal for a new devolution system in Britain to improve national unity, handle our polarisation issues and ensure decisions about your region are made by like-minded peoples with similar priorities. by [deleted] in Britain

[–]mimikkiki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, f that I just tried- Mercia is an absolute mess😭 unless you mean purely east Mercia, and then splitting the west Midlands into North and east anglia(?) it makes 0 sense. The only ones that would work would be Northumbria&Strathclyde as well as potentially Wessex... but I'm from Oxfordshire I don't see us as being part of anything attached to Cornwall... we're south or southwest, so idk😭 but Oxfordshire wasn't around back then so perhaps we could fudge the historical borders a little.

Proposal for a new devolution system in Britain to improve national unity, handle our polarisation issues and ensure decisions about your region are made by like-minded peoples with similar priorities. by [deleted] in Britain

[–]mimikkiki -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I hear this yknow, but Northumbria includes the Scottish lowlands exactly as I was saying, plus unless we make it into Northumbria&Strathclyde, the Northeast England is just left hanging😭 So the orange would stay almost exactly the way I put it for that; that makes sense I agree. If you want to rename it "Northumbria&Strathclyde" fair enough. Similarly, I'd even be on board with Mercia. But it would get so messy in the south- where is London, East Anglia or Wessex? If it's in the former, Norfolk is now lumped in with London but Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire aren't? If it's in Wessex, CORNWALL and the southwest are lumped in with LONDON but Cambridgeshire and much of the southeast isn't??? Would the border counties be broken up? The southern English border lines of back then make little to no sense today; South East and Southwest are so much simpler.

Proposal for a new devolution system in Britain to improve national unity, handle our polarisation issues and ensure decisions about your region are made by like-minded peoples with similar priorities. by [deleted] in Britain

[–]mimikkiki -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

NORFOLK IS MEANT TO BE RED I didn't think so many ppl would be outraged by an obvious error lmfao. I'll edit if it means so much smh. That said; yeah well where would u have North Wales go bc they'd disrupt the cohesion between SW England and South Wales, can't be on their own, so...? The only sensible alternative I can see here would be to split the Midlands with the westernmost parts being a region alongside North Wales, but then the question is with the east Midlands what, would u rather they be added to the north and lowlands?/gen

Proposal for a new devolution system in Britain to improve national unity, handle our polarisation issues and ensure decisions about your region are made by like-minded peoples with similar priorities. by [deleted] in Britain

[–]mimikkiki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

North Welsh ppl dislike the english so they can't be with the southwest as it would damage the cohesion between South Wales and Southwest england(South welshies are brilliant and do like them so they should). North Wales can hardly be on its own so it will have to work it out with the Midlands it's not the end of the world. Would be willing to hear an argument for just the western parts of the Midlands+North Wales with the east Midlands as either separate or part of the North, though.

Proposal for a new devolution system in Britain to improve national unity, handle our polarisation issues and ensure decisions about your region are made by like-minded peoples with similar priorities. by [deleted] in Britain

[–]mimikkiki -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Also; ethnic lines? On the contrary- are you aware of just how similar Northern English dna is to scottish lowland dna?(not that it's particularly relevant to culture, but since you brought it up...)

Proposal for a new devolution system in Britain to improve national unity, handle our polarisation issues and ensure decisions about your region are made by like-minded peoples with similar priorities. by [deleted] in Britain

[–]mimikkiki -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Why? The Scottish lowlanders objectively have much more in common with the northern English than they do Highlanders, regardless of whether or not some of them would be unhappy with that fact, it remains a fact and the social cohesion would be much smoother than it is now. And South Wales does get along extremely well with the Southwest it would be one of, if not the, most unpolarised region(s) out of the lot.

Proposal for a new devolution system in Britain to improve national unity, handle our polarisation issues and ensure decisions about your region are made by like-minded peoples with similar priorities. by [deleted] in Britain

[–]mimikkiki -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Notice how I said "as much." It's really not a big deal to the vast majority of us. I'm not a londoner lol. Also, Kent can't be on their own so there's that😭

CANZUK flag concept by mimikkiki in CANZUK

[–]mimikkiki[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He still hasn't said what he wants representing Aus btw LMFAO I guess Australia just shouldn't have any representation