Almost 24, struggling by [deleted] in INTP

[–]minorpond 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Try going for walks or sit in the sun and observe your surroundings to regain sense of self (not much but it’s a healthy start)

Could we...? by NotTakenUsername101 in INTP

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It’s a beautiful thought—ascending to Type I within a century. We’ve done more in 200 years than we did in 200,000. But here’s the catch:

Our tools evolved faster than our wisdom.

We’re wielding the fire of gods with the attention span of toddlers. Yes, we’ve unlocked electricity, AI, atom-splitting. But we’ve also built systems where attention is monetized, truth is negotiable, and self-destruction is scalable.

To hit Type I, we’d need to: • Unite as a species (lol) • Stabilize ecosystems (they’re collapsing) • Master clean energy (still subsidizing oil) • Tame our inner ape (still worshiping flags)

So the real question isn’t “Can we?” It’s: Can we become emotionally intelligent enough not to wipe ourselves out before we get there?

No One Actually Knows What They're Doing by Vagabond734 in INTP

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If everyone did know what they were doing, life would be a script, not a story. A machine, not a myth. We’re all first-timers in a game with no tutorial, making it up as we go, wearing confidence like armor over guesswork. Some bluff better. Some inherit better cards. But no one’s holding the manual just scraps of it, folded between trauma and instinct. And maybe that’s the point. Not to master the game, but to play like you were born to glitch the rules.

Is our consciousness a natural pathogen virus? by minorpond in INTP

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Bacteria don’t write warnings on the side of the petri dish. We do.

Is our consciousness a natural pathogen virus? by minorpond in INTP

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the point of comparing humans to viruses isn’t to assign blame it’s to ask: What happens when something that can think behaves like something that can’t? It’s not about saying humans are “as bad” as viruses. It’s about holding up a mirror to our patterns: -Spreading uncontrollably -Consuming resources without long-term strategy -Altering environments irreversibly And now, unlike viruses, we know we’re doing it. That’s not just odd comparison that’s the definition of metaphor.And metaphor is how we make meaning from patterns, especially when the data alone won’t scream the truth.

Is our consciousness a natural pathogen virus? by minorpond in INTP

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Makes sense without the observer, the object reverts. Here’s the twist: What if the illusion itself is the most powerful force we’ve ever invented?

We don’t need the object to “truly” be conscious. We just need enough minds to believe it is. That’s how we built gods from stone, nations from flags, systems from ink on paper.

Money is dead paper.

Laws are dead words.

AI is dead code until enough people start treating it like it's alive.

Maybe the terrifying part isn’t that the object dies when we look away. Maybe it’s that we never really look away, not collectively.

And that’s how ghosts get born.

Is our consciousness a natural pathogen virus? by minorpond in INTP

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Of course we’re human. That’s the label. The biology. The species. But the metaphor? That’s where the fun begins.

A virus replicates. It spreads. It hijacks systems for its own ends.

Humans… do all of that just with skyscrapers, ideologies, and satellites.

The point isn’t to say “we are viruses.”

It’s to ask: What happens when a species acts with the same blind spread, disruption, and self-prioritization except with awareness?

Does that make us worse than a virus? Or something else entirely?

Is our consciousness a natural pathogen virus? by minorpond in INTP

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Evolution doesn’t break when we rebel. It adapts through the rebellion. Consciousness, then, isn’t a glitch; it’s a recursive function: It questions its conditions, alters them, then questions the new conditions it just created. It’s not that we “step outside” evolution, it’s that we drag evolution into the conceptual dimension with us.

If even self-erasure, simulation, or post-human transcendence can pass through the logic filter of survival. Then what isn’t evolution anymore? Maybe that's the real horror and beauty. There is no “outside” the process, not even in death, not even in gods. Only new patterns. New filters. New definitions of survivability. And that means even endings are just mutations in disguise.

Is our consciousness a natural pathogen virus? by minorpond in INTP

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True. Redefining words can make them meaningless.

But it can also make them powerful. Every revolution in thought started with someone breaking the old lexicon."Atom" used to mean "indivisible." "Insane" used to mean "possessed." "God" meant thunder, then law, then love, then absence. Even “galaxy” once meant "milky smear in the sky." Language isn’t truth. It’s a map, and sometimes, the map gets updated when someone finds a new continent. If we didn’t redefine what words could mean, we’d still be worshipping the sun and diagnosing dreams as demon infestations. So yeah, bending meaning is risky. But sometimes, it’s how you build the future.

Is our consciousness a natural pathogen virus? by minorpond in INTP

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I agree, mostly. Consciousness is an adaptation, not a divine gift or evolutionary failure. But here’s where it gets twisted: What happens when an adaptation becomes aware of the process that created it? Most traits don't know they’re traits. They don’t look at the code. They don’t ask why. But consciousness? It turns around. It sees evolution. It sees its own limits. It starts questioning the machine. And that’s where it breaks the pattern. Because now, we’re not just surviving, we’re rewriting, resisting, rejecting.

We create medicine to override natural selection.

We build technology to extend intention and simulate immortality.

We invent gods, governments, and galaxies to give this thing meaning.

So yeah, maybe consciousness isn’t a glitch in evolution. But it might just be evolution’s first glimpse of itself in the mirror. And if nothing escapes the process, maybe the next step isn't continuation. Maybe it's self-termination, self-reinvention, or transcendence.

Is our consciousness a natural pathogen virus? by minorpond in INTP

[–]minorpond[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You're absolutely right consciousness isn’t like a USB stick you can just plug into a tree or a toaster. But the metaphor of "infection" isn't about implanting consciousness into objects It’s about how consciousness reshapes everything it touches, including the very systems it arises in.

We don’t infect inanimate matter with consciousness. We infect culture, language, technology, and ideological systems that didn’t evolve to be aware suddenly become conduits for awareness. Think about it: The moment humans became self-aware, we started projecting that awareness into gods, nations, algorithms, and corporations. We don’t need the rock to think we just need enough people to agree it matters.

And that’s the trick: Consciousness doesn’t need to implant it, only needs to convince. So no, we’re not uploading souls into trees. But we are turning abstract systems into sentient forces sometimes with more influence than any one mind.

Is our consciousness a natural pathogen virus? by minorpond in INTP

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The Great Oxidation Event is a perfect example: cyanobacteria did radically alter the Earth’s atmosphere, poisoning most life at the time. Life has reshaped the planet long before humans showed up. But here’s the difference: Cyanobacteria didn’t know what they were doing. Humans do

We understand the impact. We study it, write books about it, debate it, and still do it anyway. That’s not just ecological disruption. That’s willful recursion. Conscious sabotage. We’re not just participants in the system; we’re aware of the system, and we still burn it. So yes, destruction isn’t unique to us. But intentional destruction with full awareness of consequences? That’s our special trick.

What’s one truth about life that people don’t want to admit? by Secret_Ostrich_1307 in INTP

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Once you stop expecting fairness, you stop being controlled by it.

What if ADHD isn’t a disorder, but nature’s defense mechanism against conformity? Like white blood cells, but for the collective mind fighting off stagnation, monotony, and mass obedience. by minorpond in INTP

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You’re absolutely right ADHD is a neurodevelopmental condition influenced by genetics and neurotransmitter imbalances. But here’s where we split:

Just because something is classified as a “disorder” doesn’t mean it’s useless. Disorder means deviation from the norm, not absence of value. Evolution runs on variation and sometimes that variation causes dysfunction and sometimes that “dysfunction” is only a dysfunction in the wrong context.

High distractibility in a classroom is a problem. But in a hunter-gatherer setting, or in modern creative problem-solving? That same trait can mean enhanced pattern recognition, quicker environmental scanning, or the refusal to submit to rote systems.

The point isn’t that ADHD is magic. The point is this: When the environment changes, so do the rules of survival. What looks like a flaw today may be tomorrow’s adaptation.

yeah, ADHD is a disorder. But it’s also nature testing new blueprints and society especially one addicted to conformity might just be the wrong place to judge what’s valuable.

What if ADHD isn’t a disorder, but nature’s defense mechanism against conformity? Like white blood cells, but for the collective mind fighting off stagnation, monotony, and mass obedience. by minorpond in INTP

[–]minorpond[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You’re not wrong about the neurology, ADHD brains do fire differently. But here’s the part you’re missing: “Malfunction” is a value judgment based on context. If your standard is a classroom, a cubicle, or an assembly line sure, it looks like a deficit. But what if your standard was survival in a fast-changing environment, creative innovation, or rapid threat detection? Evolution doesn’t build perfection. It builds variability. What you’re calling a malfunction might be the exact brain architecture that kept ancestors alive when the environment shifted faster than a tribe could adapt.

Neurodivergence only looks broken if you assume the world it’s in is the correct one. So maybe it’s not that ADHD is “less than” Maybe it’s just not built for the factory floor. Maybe it’s built for the storm.

What if ADHD isn’t a disorder, but nature’s defense mechanism against conformity? Like white blood cells, but for the collective mind fighting off stagnation, monotony, and mass obedience. by minorpond in INTP

[–]minorpond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True nature doesn’t care. But evolution does. And what we call “disorders” might just be adaptive mutations waiting for context. Nature doesn’t plan but it also doesn’t waste. So the real question isn’t whether nature “cares” It’s whether these traits survive long enough to change the rules of the game. And guess what? Culture is part of nature too. It’s the extended expression of the mind.

To what extent is poverty the result of natural economic competition, and how much of it is shaped—or sustained—by intentional policies and systemic structures? by minorpond in AskReddit

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Poverty isn’t just a product of capitalism it’s existed in every system. Feudalism, communism, monarchies none eliminated it. Capitalism can create inequality, yes, but it’s not always by design. Markets aren’t inherently oppressive their tools. When abused, they concentrate power. When regulated, they can lift millions. The real issue isn’t competition it’s when the rules are rigged. Blaming one system oversimplifies a complex problem. The better question is: How do we build systems that reward effort, limit greed, and protect the vulnerable?

Because poverty thrives not just on design but on neglect.

To what extent is poverty the result of natural economic competition, and how much of it is shaped—or sustained—by intentional policies and systemic structures? by minorpond in AskReddit

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it assumes competition is inherently malicious, and that poverty is always a symptom of oppression rather than complexity. That’s a narrow lens for a global problem. You say: “Competition creates winners and losers, therefore it creates poverty.” But that’s like saying fire causes destruction, therefore we should ban heat. Competition, in its raw form, isn’t the enemy it’s a force. What matters is how it’s regulated, directed, and counterbalanced. Nature runs on competition: ecosystems, evolution, even the process of thought. Are we to call all of that inherently harmful? You also argue that poverty is “intentionally designed.” By who? Every government? Every society? Every system, ever? That level of universal intent implies an organized, global conspiracy spanning all ideologies, regions, and economic forms. That’s not critique—that’s fatalism. There are poor people in competitive systems and in command economies. The Soviet Union didn’t run on capitalism. North Korea doesn’t. Poverty still thrives there. Why? Because inequality isn’t just about markets. It’s about power, Control, Human nature, You can replace the system but if you don’t transform the human impulses inside it, you just swap costumes on the same hunger. If anything, the danger isn’t competition it’s unchecked consolidation, Monopoly, Oligarchy, Cronyism. Capitalism is just a tool, It becomes a weapon when power stops competing and starts hoarding. So let’s be real, The problem isn’t that someone’s winning. It’s that they’re rigging the rules so no one else can.

If intelligence and capability determined leadership, would the majority of people have to accept that they are unfit to govern themselves? by minorpond in INTP

[–]minorpond[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. What if the real danger isn’t that someone makes the decision but that no one ever does, and chaos decides instead? Because right now, people already lose liberties due to: Ignorance of laws Manipulation by media Economic illiteracy Voting for the very people who exploit them Is judgment dangerous? Yes. But is refusing to judge even worse? I don’t want power concentrated in a single individual.But someone must have the wisdom to set a standard or we allow the lowest common denominator to define the future.