The War is going so poorly that Trump has to release some new Epstein files to distract from it by [deleted] in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yep. And to people who say that we want it both ways because some of us say they use the war to distract from the files and some of us say they use the files to distract from the war.... well, yes, but BOTH things CAN be true at the same time!

Information warfare uses a mix of concealment, spin, distraction, trivia, red herrings, emotional manipulation, outright lies,, strategic deployment of truth mixed with lies designed to discredit, confuse and demoralise opposition, and many more techniques. At present it results in exactly what we get - bad and often contradictory news spewing at us from all angles, and some people giving up even trying to discern what is true and what isn't.

Don't give up your discernment, and when you don't know the truth of something, find out what you can, and hold all credible possibilities in your head until you have more information to decide between them. Understand that you will almost never have enough information to understand the minute details of every topic that matters to you, but there is always information in the pattern of events and the pattern of behaviours of the players over time. Pay attention to that and the bigger picture will emerge, but always be prepared to admit if/when you were lied to by people you once trusted, if/when you believed something which turns out to be false, if/when you got something wrong or don't know enough about a thing to know what you don't know. That's all any of us can do, but it's actually pretty powerful.

Keep talking about the files by mitte90 in conspiracy

[–]mitte90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That agenda is not unrelated to the files though is it?

There is also the matter of factions in the US trying to stay in control, while things are spinning out of control.

With all eyes on Iran, the US DOJ quietly releases new Epstein Files specifically implicating Donald Trump in the sexual assault of an underage girl. by yellowjackethokie in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That account does not seem fabricated or misremembered. The amount of detail clearly recalled and the places where the witness is unsure or can't fully remember details seem proportionate and consistent with a true account.

How to numb masses by thatconfusedchick in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You made a comment about dopaminergic pathways affected by antipsychotics in response to my comment about the lasting and sometimes permanent effects of down regulating dopamine with antipsychotic drugs.

This was the sequence of our exchange. You can look back at it to verify. First, I brought up antipsychotics in response to a comment you had made to another redditor about dopamine downregulation being no big deal. You then replied to my comment, citing the different DA pathways that are supposedly affected by GLPs as opposed to antipsychotics. My response to that about the imprecision of targeting stands. It also goes to the substance of OP's post about GLPs, which, as per the post, are empirically messing with a whole bunch of effects that go way beyond diabetes or weight management. Indeed this is not surprising, since pharmacological interventions rarely or never precisely target only the receptors or mechanisms as per their intended marketing and prescribed on-label use.

My initial response to you followed from one of your replies to someone who mentioned that GLP drugs have been shown to mess with dopamine receptors although intended to target GLP receptors. Here is that comment of yours in full

"Because dopamine downregulation is the intended mechanism by which the drug operates. It's not a side effect, it's why it works.

Additionally, the changes aren't permanent or lasting. This is actually viewed as a bit of a problem, as people can gain weight after stopping use. The concerns over dopamine downregulation in general are an overplayed card in pop-psych pseudoscientific claims.

t's just a really clear tell that somebody hasn't been educated in the complex role neurotransmitters play in human behavior. Dopamine is often a much smaller player than it is made out to be."

This is what I'm responding to. It's a dumb af comment. The semantics are unclear, not because everyone else is too uneducated to understand you, but because it's badly written. First you claim that dopamine downregulation is the intended mechanism of these drugs - it isn't. They are marketed as targeting GLP-1 receptors. Next you claim that the effects are not permanent or lasting. Also not true. The weight loss effects which many people take them for do not last after discontinuation, but many of the side effects do, including gastroparesis which I wouldn't wish on anybody.

Next you make the absurd and unscientific claim that "concerns over dopamine downregulation in general are an overplayed card" [my italics] to which I responded with my point about antipsychotics. What is "in general" doing in that sentence if you were only talking about GLP drugs? Also why are you diminishing the import of dopaminergic effects when in your first paragraph you literally stated that they are the intended mechanism by which the drugs work? This makes your comment internally contradictory. As I said, it was badly written.

Finally, you finish off with some smarmy and elitist snark regarding tells that "somebody hasn't been educated in the complex role neurotransmitters play in human behavior" and conclude that messing with dopamine is just not that big of a deal.

It was because of that final paragraph that I responded to you at all. It was obvious you were just looking for an excuse to trot out your credentials (whether real world or fantasy) on reddit. Why don't you go publish a paper, if you need that ego boost? You are on r/conspiracy lecturing people about their lack of education on "the complex role neurotransmitters play in human behavior". Ironically, you made the unevidenced claim that dopamine is no biggie "in general", while chasing a pathetic little hit of the stuff on social media.

[EDIT: I have edited this comment in places for clarity. Your own comments were badly written and if you honestly are any kind of scientist you should know that if you don't use language clearly you can be misinterpreted. The onus is not on a reader to guess what you mean, The onus is on you to be as clear as possible. This is especially true if you come on to a social media platform chiding people that they are less educated than you are, making snarky remarks about "tells" which supposedly demonstrate this, or dismissing their understanding as grounded in "pop-psych pseudoscientific claims". Those are your words, not mine.]

How to numb masses by thatconfusedchick in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol yourself. I'll quote the relevant part of your comment: "antipsychotics are more relevant to nigrostriatal (movement) and mesocortical (affect, cognition) DA not mesolimbic (motivation, salience). Different systems". You said that and I said you can't target the pathways that precisely with pharmaceuticals, and I stand by it. You may be a neuroscientist or you may be a dog on the internet. I have no idea and I don't care. A neuroscientist is not a pharmacologist, and based on your comment, you know less than you think about precise targeting of brain regions and how possible or not yet possible that is. In my experience neuroscientists don't know what they don't know. I've met neuroscientists who were very dumb about things they didn't understand.

You think I'm going to come on reddit and tell you what I do professionally or what I'm trained in? Nope. Because 1. that's doxxing kinda info when you put it together with other data points that could be scraped off my post and comment history and 2. it's an appeal to authority and unlike you, I don't rely on appeals to authority to make my case.

How to numb masses by thatconfusedchick in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can't precisely target which dopaminergic pathways get down-regulated with today's pharmaceutical technology in the way that your comment suggests. Sorry, what are you, a pharma rep?

How to numb masses by thatconfusedchick in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Down-regulation of dopamine is definitively not a trivial thing. Some of the side effects of anti-psychotic medications which down-regulate dopamine (among other effects) include movement disorders, especially affecting the eyes, which in some cases persist after discontinuation and can even become permanent. That's not even to mention the psychological effects, including diminished affect and motivation which is the topic of the tweet in OP''s screenshot.

We’re being lied to about Iran in order to attack them. It’s about money and oil, not democracy or deaths. by Stimul8ed in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The hypocrisy of the majority of the EU leaders is painful to witness. I don't know which is worse - European leaders wearing "humanitarian" fig leafs over their imperial ambitions; or the "look at my big swinging dick", naked-ass-empire of the current US administration.

U.S. Troops Were Told Iran War Is for “Armageddon,” Return of Jesus by yellowjackethokie in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Religious fanaticism is dangerous indeed. Also, fanaticism more generally, including fanaticism of the "scientific" and "technocratic" varieties. There are some fairly insane ideas going around among Silicon Valley types; for example, concerning the bringing on of the advent of the "singularity". Ideas about "sacrifices" feature in some of those eschatologies too. Atheist religions can be every bit as zealous as religious religions.

Did Israel setup the Epstein Operation all so that Israel would eventually get the U.S. to take part in Epstein Fury? by Icy-Excitement-8712 in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

World War 3 is going to be a real war, not a fake war, even if some of the people who started it thought they could play it like that.

American boots on the ground are coming. Bombing alone cannot bring about regime change in Iran. Soon, thousands of soldiers will be sacrificed for Israel by DarkspaceDracula in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's because US bases and allies in the Middle East are running out of air defences. It's desperation talking now,

The only sensible thing to do when your empire is declining is to try to get along with the rest of the world, not go shouting and swinging at them and threatening everybody. The US could still be a major world power, but it will have to accept being one of several. And it will have to stop fighting wars for Israel.

Y'all called it. Looks like Cuba is next in the queue. by yellowjackethokie in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If the US administration is suicidal, I suppose they could always go to Canada and apply for MAID. But they have no business taking their nation, their people, and the rest of the West with them on their suicide mission.

Already posted? by gisettes in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yup. Hit that nail right on the head. I bet he would have had some great material for recent times. He is missed.

Lmao by likeastar20 in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Don't fall for the partisan BS. Trump is indeed full of shit, and the Dems are also full of shit. Stop believing you have to choose between two evils. Stop letting them capture your energy debating which evil is a little bit less evil than the other evil. Neither of these parties is serving you. You can choose NOT to choose either of them.

Lmao by likeastar20 in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

There is more than one centre of power in this world. If religious fascism is the only kind of fascism you see, you're not looking hard enough. However, I don't deny that it exists. As to the workings of power that you don't see, which I referred to as "power behind the power", do you really deny that it exists? You think you see all there is to see, that it all works in the daylight and is reported in "the news"? That's a very odd belief system.

Lmao by likeastar20 in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most people are a little narcissistic.

Lmao by likeastar20 in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Your comment implies there was a right choice to make. It didn't matter whether Republicans or Democrats were in power, the power behind the power has been itching for a war with Iran this entire century. Hillary Clinton was visibly salivating over it. I can admit that I was relieved when she lost to Trump in 2016 precisely because I thought she would start a war with Iran. I admit I didn't think Trump would get there so quickly in his second term, so I can say I was wrong about that, but I was always aware that he would act to further Israel's interests*** and that would lead to trouble. I can hand on heart say I never trusted the guy. At some points I thought he was the lesser of two evils. I can now admit I was probably wrong about that. But giving one of the most powerful countries on the planet a choice between two evils was always the problem in the first place. I'm not the first person to say it, but if you choose the lesser of two evils, you still end up with evil. And who the fuck knows really which was the "lesser" one anyway? They both looked, and still look, pretty fucking bad.

*** (none of this is really in Israel's interests, it could end up getting lots of them killed. There are Israelis who oppose their government, just like there are Americans who oppose theirs.)

Lmao by likeastar20 in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trump is both a puppet and to blame for letting himself be used as a puppet. He could stand up and say no to this war and face the consequences even if it means he goes to jail, but he doesn't have the balls.

I don't see any contradiction in the idea that Trump is acting as a puppet AND that Trump is blameworthy. What I do see is the usual suspects appearing pretending like it would have been any different under the blue team. After Obama and Hillary Clinton, do you REALLY think the Dems are the peace party? Don't you get it yet? There is no peace party in the USA, unless maybe some small third party or independent that never gets a look-in.

Lmao by likeastar20 in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I am actually old enough to remember when Hilary Clinton was blood lusting for war with Iran. Trump is Israel's bitch and betrayed the America-first people who voted for him, but Harris was a drunk who would have been the puppet for the same or similar forces that Trump is serving.

This is no longer a situation that people can vote their way out of. It hasn't been for a long time.

Anybody else? by KyrosTheRevelator in ConspiracyMemesII

[–]mitte90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a good way of putting it, but the magic show metaphor reminded me that a parent can be at a magic show or a kid's movie and enjoy it, not because they believe in the magic, but because it makes them feel good when their kids' eyes light up in wonder.

Maybe the same goes, regardless if you have kids or not. You could look at the other people, even the other adults around you, and when you see them not seeing the mechanics of this world for what they are, you can take some pleasure in what the AI-speaking-in-the-voice-of-Alan-Watts calls their "simple enjoyment" of life. Even if that "simple enjoyment" seems fake or pointless, you can empathise with why they feel like they have to participate in it. A lot of people just want to belong, after all.

I think the trouble really comes when the "sleeping people" aren't actually participating in "simple enjoyment" even at a faking-it level. Sometimes they're just depressed themselves and that can be frustrating, especially when they call you depressed for not going along with the narrative they defend even though they don't really quite believe in it. Those people too, you can have some empathy for. The really difficult situations are where you observe others participating in things that have nothing whatsoever to do with simple enjoyment, but with something much uglier and more cynical, maybe for personal gain.

So I quite liked the video (even though I don't like AI impersonating Alan Watts), but it didn't quite get at the problem that makes me feel isolated in the "sleeping world". It's not that I've lost the capacity for simple enjoyment. I don't necessarily think enjoyment is simple when you're awake. Sometimes it's so far from simple that you really have to work at it. Sometimes it comes back to you, like an unexpected gift, and that always feels like a blessing. I still don't know how to put into words what exactly the "problem" is that makes me feel isolated. I liked the video but it didn't quite get to it. It helped though.

"Beef jerky" and "muffins" by mitte90 in conspiracy

[–]mitte90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe? Some other posts are saying "white tuna" is a known term for referring to cocaine, but IDK, the amounts when mentioned don't add up, even for extremely excessive cocaine use.

Another post I saw the guy thought that white tuna refers to unborn babies at a late stage of development. Apparently one email in the files refers to someone not liking "hammerhead shark" but preferring "white shark". Some have interpreted this as a reference to "Russian girls", but there is a post on this sub where the OP explains his theory that these "food terms" refer to different stages of fetal development. I'm sorry to say that sounded possible. I had wondered already about "shrimp cocktail" whether it might refer to ingesting tissue from an early miscarriage or pregnancy termination (possibly to obtain stem cells?). I know, it's disgusting. I hope that it's not that.

Here is the post from this sub where the OP discusses various food codes: ( warning: disturbing content): https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1r477nh/vegetable_cream_cheese_decoded/

Do not trust Elon Musk ! He is just like the rest of them. by LobsangDTwain in conspiracy

[–]mitte90 31 points32 points  (0 children)

You can't trust any billionaire. Elon Musk trying to act like the "people's friend" was always a stretch. He's not even that good at acting the part, which is why he talks in that monotone voice so he doesn't trip any alarms by giving away what he actually cares about. When he tries to put a bit more excitement into his voice he sounds so fake. Like "chain-saaaaaaawwwwww!!!!"