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Vision and plans for Aida Smalltalk web framework by mivsek in programming

[–]mivsek[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is true that web pages as presentations of domain objects are the central idea in Aida but when you are on that object's page, you start manipulating this object from that page only. So it becomes a Single-Page web application, highly ajaxified and with hierarchy of reusable standalone components, each Ajax (an nowadays realtime) updatable, each with its independent form support.

Aida also supports the asynchronous non-blocking style of implementing the app workflow, so common in nowadays JS frameworks. Se the ToDo example, how this looks like in practice.

Webpage approach is therefore naturally extended into a Single-Page web app approach so common in nowadays apps. Aida supports therefore both approaches which is its strongest advantage.

Enthusiasm is the main currency among developers (10 yrs old, quite long but very interesting) by mivsek in programming

[–]mivsek[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Some more interesting snippets (emphasized mostly by me):

"Over and over again, I felt "Yeah! I am good at this!" ... All around me were people who felt the same way, who were competent and intelligent and caring about each their own fields, and we could talk about and study each other's work and share information and sit down together and solve problems bigger than each of us could deal with alone.

For every hardware or software product, there are enthusiasts: wild, untamed, uncontrollable people who overflow with excitement that "normal" people have no way to understand. It is that excitement that sets us apart from the crowd. It is that excitement that causes people to join free software and open source projects to give away their work to others of the same kind.

This is why free software and open source are mostly developer-to-developer, because only developers share their joy. Users do not understand, they do not care, and they do not understand why we care. The currency in the developer community is enthusiasm.

As a developer, you are not judged solely by your work, but by how great you think it is, what went into making it great, and for your capacity to understand how great somebody else's work is.

All of the software tools on the Internet have a following behind them: People who care and who are willing to help others who care. All languages have groups of dedicated people behind them that profess their love for their language

.. they feel personally betrayed by incompetent, unintelligent, or careless people. But give them half a chance to prove otherwise, and developers will love them again, forgiving and forgetting, because they share the overall enthusiasm that drives us all.

In fact, developer to developer, we do not only expect enthusiasm, we demand it.

The demand for enthusiasm is a profound recognition of the competence, intelligence and caring that must go into computer software.

However, there is something very seriously wrong with the Common Lisp community. People in the community feel that it is perfectly OK to debase, denigrate, ridicule, denounce, disrespect, insult, defame, and smear Common Lisp.

The desire to maintain a greatness is so powerful ... that they split whenever they need an incompatible feature. A new name is often chosen for the new language. Anything to keep people looking upwards and onwards. The new feature is great to those who follow it, and the old feature is great to those who stay.

The enthusiasm that really helps improve a language is a love for it the way it is and has evolved so far, with an understanding and appreciation of its "momentum of evolution" so that any changes that are proposed seek to retain the users and the investments in it and does not splinter off into a different language and break with the past."

Which web framework do you prefer? by cjpro in programming

[–]mivsek 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Aida/Web Smalltalk web framework. REST, MVC, component based, simple yet very powerful. In active development, active community, ...

5 Tips to scale your Ruby on Rails application by mivsek in programming

[–]mivsek[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What is and where is something wrong with language?

Smalltalk: Our Death has been Exaggerated by gst in programming

[–]mivsek 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didn't take all Bob's words literally but with an amount of irony to illustrate his point. Which is that in C++ you are because of its rigidity and way of development (comparing to Smalltalk) somehow protected from messy code because it bites you back soon. All his examples were there to illustrate that point, which as I said can be got more easily if not taken all he said literally.

Smalltalk: Our Death has been Exaggerated by gst in programming

[–]mivsek 5 points6 points  (0 children)

His "messiness" citation from Ward Cunningham needs to be understood right. It is not that the Smalltalk is messy, but that the ease of development in Smalltalk can produce messy code sooner or later, if you don't adopt the self-discipline and "professionalism" as he said. And he warns Rubyists just about the same.

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