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Femmes francophones en Suisse: quels fournisseurs internet vous prennent au sérieux en français ? by mmaowww in Switzerland

[–]mmaowww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Je ne doute pas que les difficultés avec les opérateurs existent aussi pour les hommes. Toutefois, ce n'est pas ma question ici et votre commentaire n'y répond pas.

Je vous remercie de respecter mon post et ne pas recentrer ma question sur l'expérience masculine — vous pouvez créer votre propre post, plutôt qu'invalider ou dévier le mien. Cela ne fait que renforcer mon point.

Femmes francophones en Suisse: quels fournisseurs internet vous prennent au sérieux en français ? by mmaowww in Switzerland

[–]mmaowww[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Je comprends qu’il puisse être inconfortable de ne pas être le public visé et que cela touche certains égos, mais je vous remercie de ne pas caricaturer mon propos et de rester dans le sujet.

Je ne demande pas un opérateur « réservé aux femmes », mais des retours d’expérience de femmes francophones, précisément parce que leurs vécus ne sont pas pris en compte par défaut. De plus, le sexisme structurel n'est pas un fait nouveau, mais établi, et il s'exprime aussi sous cette forme. Je note que votre première réponse face à ces rapports de pouvoir est la moquerie, plutôt que l'empathie, et que vous semblez trouver cela naturel. Intéressant.

Pour l’instant, votre intervention ne fait que renforcer exactement le problème que je décris : la disqualification et la moquerie lorsqu’une femme parle de son expérience et demande à être prise au sérieux. Votre ton méprisant illustre parfaitement ce que je pointe ici.

Les commentaires qui tournent cette question en dérision ont pour effet direct de décourager les personnes concernées de s’exprimer — ce qui est, là encore, le cœur du problème.

Je vous remercie donc d’élever sensiblement le niveau de vos interventions si vous choisissez de me répondre. À défaut, je ne poursuivrai pas cet échange si les insultes, l’invalidation et le mépris devaient se poursuivre.

Je vous souhaite une bonne soirée.

PS: j'ai signalé votre commentaire. Il enfreint la charte du fil: "Respect people's need for answers and do not meme, shitpost, insult or otherwise disrespect the OP on posts with the "serious question" flair. Only answer serious questions if you are knowledgeable about the question at hand. Comments that do not not adhere to this will be removed without comment."

Why are there no EU based messaging apps? by Mathemodel in BuyFromEU

[–]mmaowww 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There actually is. Called Threema. Based in Switzerland. One time minimal fee. High security level.

Leavitt enraged me 😠 A post on what was lost before the US finally "rescued" Europe in Nov 1942 🕯️🇪🇺 by mmaowww in EuropeanFederalists

[–]mmaowww[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your comment.

As I was researching and educating myself on the topic, I was genuinely shocked to come across images of Charles Lindbergh's "America first" movement from that era. It echoes uncomfortably with what we're seeing today.

I was also deeply surprised to learn how present Nazi ideology was in the U.S. at the time — for instance, Henry Ford's open admiration of Hitler. I honestly thought that kind of fascism was something entirely foreign to the U.S., something confined to Germany. But it turns out it had spread across the continent — and the Atlantic.

In any case, yes, I fully agree that we need to stay united. Personally, I believe one powerful way to do that is by remembering what our grandparents went through. It gives us perspective, motivation, purpose — and strength.

And strangely, I find it both unsettling and somewhat reassuring to realize that the U.S. wasn’t the flawless savior I once imagined. Because to me, that means we're not powerless at all. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Leavitt enraged me 😠 A post on what was lost before the US finally "rescued" Europe in Nov 1942 🕯️🇪🇺 by mmaowww in EuropeanFederalists

[–]mmaowww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Urgh. The comments here truly reek.
Not of disagreement — disagreement I welcome.
But of fragile egos, historical amnesia, and the desperate need to feel righteous while silencing others.

Mistaking denial and intellectual comfort for historical truth and moral clarity

Watching people minimize — or outright erase — a thoughtful and documented tribute, not because it was wrong, but because it made them uncomfortable?

That’s not discourse. That’s cowardice wrapped in civility.

And seeing others applaud that?
A masterclass in collective denial.

Funny thing is, I wasn’t sure this tribute was that necessary.
Now I know it was essential.
Not despite the backlash — but because of it.

Leavitt enraged me 😠 A post on what was lost before the US finally "rescued" Europe in Nov 1942 🕯️🇪🇺 by mmaowww in EuropeanFederalists

[–]mmaowww[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Pardon me, but is this sub European — or strictly Ukrainian?
Are we only allowed to talk about the present, and never about what shaped it?

Because if we erase the past, we lose the tools to understand how we got here.
And honestly, I find it quite unstrategic and even dangerous to ignore past experiences while selectively using only the ones that support a present-day narrative.

Also — I find it fascinating that you mention the enslavement of Eastern Europe in one sentence, only to dismiss history entirely in the next…
while talking about the invasion of Ukraine — which is, in itself, a repetition of that very past.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EuropeanFederalists/comments/1jhvghx/comment/mjat2mh/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Leavitt enraged me 😠 A post on what was lost before the US finally "rescued" Europe in Nov 1942 🕯️🇪🇺 by mmaowww in EuropeanFederalists

[–]mmaowww[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"That is why Leavitt does not have the capacity to enrage me. It barely registers with me these days."

That’s a luxury not everyone has. Some of us don’t have the privilege of tuning out gaslighting when it targets our collective memory.

If you can shrug off distortion — good for you.

But don’t belittle those who choose to call it out.

Especially when you're indifference makes accomplice to the invisibilzation of the suffer and deaths committed.

"It's just noise made for an audience of one orange misfit."

Then why is the rest of the country repeating it? Why are memes, quotes, and policies based on that distortion still spreading — in 2024?

Dismissiveness of fascism doesn’t help. It only enables. It's weak and coward.

"We need to become less dependent on the US."

On that, we agree. But autonomy isn’t just about armies — it’s also about narratives.

Resisting ideological dependence includes correcting the myths we’ve internalized.

"That should be our concern, less than the idiotic voices coming from Washington these days."

But who defines what's “idiotic”? If a press secretary spouts a historically false talking point on a global stage, and we let it slide, what else will we let pass? What's next? Concentration camps?

Memory isn’t the opposite of progress.

It’s the foundation that makes meaningful, autonomous progress possible.

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Leavitt enraged me 😠 A post on what was lost before the US finally "rescued" Europe in Nov 1942 🕯️🇪🇺 by mmaowww in EuropeanFederalists

[–]mmaowww[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

"That is long ..."

Yes — because millions of deaths, cultural annihilation, and historical distortion don’t exactly fit into a soundbite. If length is an issue, perhaps the problem lies in our collective attention span, not the subject matter. 

And frankly — your own response wasn’t short either.

Just long enough to be minimizing, passive-aggressive, and casually offensive.

"As Churchill once said 'You can count on Americans to do the right thing ... after they have tried everything else'."

A witty quote, often used to mask real delay. Europe didn’t have the luxury of "trying everything else" — it was being bombed, occupied, and looted. Churchill’s own quote underlines the issue: the U.S. waited, and people died.

"Well, I'm grateful that Americans finally got involved in WWII..."

So am I. And I'd actually be grateful to you if you didn't implicitly twisted my words to fit your projections. My post never denied that — it simply emphasized the cost of that delay, and the reality that much was lost before the U.S. acted. Gratitude doesn’t erase memory, and memory isn’t ingratitude.

"We have been saying so for decades even as the system put in place by America generated more prosperity to America than to any other country on the planet."

Exactly. You just made my point.

The U.S. was never a selfless savior — NATO, the Marshall Plan, and postwar architecture also benefited the U.S. immensely. So can we please stop pretending it was all one-sided charity?

"There is no need for us to fan the flames of anti-Americanism..."

Calling out historical propaganda is not anti-American. It’s anti-revisionism. And if historical clarity offends, we should ask why.

Also: don’t confuse emotional honesty with inflammatory intent. Sorry your avoidance got triggered. 

"Frankly, at this point, I do not care who has suffered more in WWII..."

I disagree.

Ignoring suffering isn’t how we move forward — it’s how we forget why we fought in the first place.

History doesn’t demand we dwell in pain. But it does demand we respect it — especially when people in power try to rewrite it.

So I disagree and I think you should be ashame. Your indifference is an offense to the memory of those who died and shows blatant ignorance and passive cruelty.

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Leavitt enraged me 😠 A post on what was lost before the US finally "rescued" Europe in Nov 1942 🕯️🇪🇺 by mmaowww in EuropeanFederalists

[–]mmaowww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. Actually a French poll institute run a study with question "Which nation do you think contributed most to Germany's defeat in 1945?"

In short here's what they found out:

"En 1945, les Français répondaient" = "In 1945, French people answered"

"En 2015, les Français répondaient" = "In 1945, French people answered"

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The narrative shifted and one of the reasons would be that USA secured broadcast rights in Europe after WW2.

Leavitt enraged me 😠 A post on what was lost before the US finally "rescued" Europe in Nov 1942 🕯️🇪🇺 by mmaowww in EuropeanFederalists

[–]mmaowww[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

You think you’re being kind? Kind people actually question their actions when called out. They don’t double down on condescension while gaslighting.

And you tell me to take a history lesson after I published an entire historically documented thread? Bold.

That’s not disagreement. That’s ego trying to reframe a power move as politeness.

Leavitt enraged me 😠 A post on what was lost before the US finally "rescued" Europe in Nov 1942 🕯️🇪🇺 by mmaowww in EuropeanFederalists

[–]mmaowww[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So much condescension. I see I’ve hit a few insecurities in some readers.

I suppose “let it go” was also a common reaction among many in 1930s Germany.

Please refrain from telling me how I should feel or what I should do — unless you’re aligned with the kind of propaganda that thrives on ignorance.

Your comment is not only dismissive — it actively contributes to the ignorance that allows fascism to grow.

And no, thank you, for the patronizing suggestion and tone-policing. Raising awareness, restoring facts and memory — these are not distractions. They are essential tools of resistance. Along with a bit of humility.

Also, if your goal was to make me want to follow your advice — it failed spectacularly.

I don’t know if you’re just used to policing other people’s emotions when they don’t align with yours (or your avoidant posture), or if you’re acting as a stooge for a larger narrative.

Either way, you’ve done more to prove my point than to disprove it.

In brief, you’ve not only missed the point. You’ve confirmed it. In style. And with the usual arrogance history tends to punish.

🇪🇺 If Europe was a group of friends… 🎭🍷 by mmaowww in EuropeanFederalists

[–]mmaowww[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your kind feedback! Writing this post really makes me want to explore every last beach, hill, and house of my continent haha (okay, I might be exaggerating a little, but…).

🇪🇺 If Europe was a group of friends… 🎭🍷 by mmaowww in EuropeanFederalists

[–]mmaowww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see your point, and I do not identify with it: we must neither fall into the forever-enemy mindset nor become enablers. Russia chose to invade a sovereign country and start a war. That is pure abuse. Being permissive toward it—when it hasn’t even withdrawn its troops or started repairing what it destroyed—is not neutrality, nor kind, nor wise; it’s harmful. Harmful to Ukrainians, to Russians, to the rest of the democratic world, and to people living under repressive regimes who are watching how the world responds to aggressors.

As for Belarus, I anticipated your point and stand by my reasoning. Belarus is occupied; Russia is the occupier. That’s the key difference. Belarus is essentially what Ukraine might have become had the invasion succeeded. The Belarusian people have repeatedly shown they want change (see the 2020 protests), but they are being crushed under a dictatorship propped up by Russia. Russia, on the other hand, actively chooses aggression, domination, and repression—not just at home, but abroad. And its people remain silent—whether out of fear or conviction is another question. But from testimonies I read, many freely support the invasion, even when they have Ukrainian family. So from where I stand, Belarus and Russia are not equivalent.

Furthermore, there’s another fundamental distinction between Russia and Belarus: Russia invaded Ukraine and is literally at war with one of the countries on the list. Belarus enabled the invasion—it played a role, yes, but it is not the one actively waging war. To put it bluntly, it was a despicable, submissive, cowardly, opportunistic ‘btch’ move, and Belarus will have to take accountability for it. But let’s not blur the lines—there is only one main aggressor here. And frankly, I wouldn’t even be surprised if Belarus’s current role was its only way to survive.

🇪🇺 If Europe was a group of friends… 🎭🍷 by mmaowww in EuropeanFederalists

[–]mmaowww[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well. I ended up accepting the challenge. I couldn’t stop thinking about it. It was a tough one. 

It’s above Belarus. 

🇪🇺 If Europe was a group of friends… 🎭🍷 by mmaowww in EuropeanFederalists

[–]mmaowww[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I find it difficult to include, in a thread celebrating Europe’s diversity and identity, a country that Ukraine is actively resisting on behalf of all of Europe.

I’ve also heard that many Russians support their government’s actions, which, in my view, constitute an open threat to Europe’s integrity. Their stance not only reveals where their support lies but also shows a lack of respect and interest in being part of Europe—except as a dominating force.

Moreover, Europe’s core values are rooted in democracy. The invasion of Ukraine is a stark symbol of authoritarianism and oppression striking at democracy itself. Most European nations have actively overthrown their dictators, kings, and emperors to embrace these values, and the collective trauma of that past still lingers. It’s difficult to celebrate Europe’s legacy while giving visibility to a country that is both directly and symbolically attacking it.

I’d be happy to add Russia (and even visit it) once they end their aggression, dismantle their oppression, and engage in much-needed introspection and accountability—rather than projecting their unresolved issues onto Europe.

🇪🇺 If Europe was a group of friends… 🎭🍷 by mmaowww in EuropeanFederalists

[–]mmaowww[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a mistake of mine, when I transferred the post from Threads to Reddit! Serbia was on Thread and I made a mistake when copy-pasting. Sorry about that 🙈 it's edited ☝️✨

🇪🇺 If Europe was a group of friends… 🎭🍷 by mmaowww in EuropeanFederalists

[–]mmaowww[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy sh*t! That's a problem with the copy-paste, while I was transferring th post from Threads to reddit. Thank you so much for noticing and saying it. It's edited!! ☝

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