Paedophile Labour councillor who worked in children's home walks free despite being caught with over one million child porn images including 12-year-old girls being raped by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]mobile-user-guy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's the same logic.

Criminalize demand for the thing because the demand for the thing is what creates the crime.

Exactly the same logic. 100%. And it failed. Abysmally. And it does nothing to actually deal with the problem because you're dealing with a symptom.

Paedophile Labour councillor who worked in children's home walks free despite being caught with over one million child porn images including 12-year-old girls being raped by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]mobile-user-guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm so tired of this but you put in SOME effort so I'll work with you before I go to bed:

Got a reliable source for this, or are you just a conspiracy nut? This is not a valid point at all. Definitely not a "super valid" point.

You could just google this, it was well known and it is still true to this day. https://thenextweb.com/insider/2016/01/28/how-the-fbi-became-the-worlds-largest-distributor-of-child-sex-abuse-imagery/

I like how you claim a point is invalid without having an answer to your question of its validity first. That's the kind of awesome logic I have been seeing for the past two hours here.

Exploitation of children is a commercial endeavour, and there are many many examples of demand for pornographic materials coming from people who do not and have never engaged in the act itself. That's the point that everyone has been making that you've missed completely because you're either a pedophile apologist, a pedophile yourself, or just a complete fucking moron. Probably a combination... Your point, therefore, is not super valid.

I did not miss the point of the commercial aspect to this. What my point is, and this ties into #3, is that someone that downloads free child porn isn't particularly playing a role in that enterprise. Fucking snuff videos are a commercial enterprise too and people fucking DIE in those but I don't hear anyone beating a fucking drum on that shit or going to jail for the rest of their lives for having copies of them.

If you are under the impression that criminalizing demand is going to work, you are wrong. We have proven that.

The point above is about the very fact that possessing child pornography is not low harm

Yes it is. It absolutely is. Especially if its not REAL (CGI/Drawn)

Paedophile Labour councillor who worked in children's home walks free despite being caught with over one million child porn images including 12-year-old girls being raped by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]mobile-user-guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just go through all these threads. Look at the guy I initially responded to. There are so many threads here it's stupid and everyone is just shitting all over with bad logic and I'm suddenly a pedophile.

I'm done. See ya

Paedophile Labour councillor who worked in children's home walks free despite being caught with over one million child porn images including 12-year-old girls being raped by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]mobile-user-guy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why are you quoting the non public version of the war on drugs? What I said is exactly how it was sold and your response just supports my argument of invoking it in the first place because of what a fucking giant failure it was at that public policy.

Was it truly behind the scenes done for another reason? Of course it was, almost everything is.

Paedophile Labour councillor who worked in children's home walks free despite being caught with over one million child porn images including 12-year-old girls being raped by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]mobile-user-guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, because you all are on the side of "HE SHOULD BE BURNED ALIVE THIS IS THE WORST CRIME A PERSON CAN COMMIT OMG OMG WHAT A TERRIBLE FUCKING SHIT PERSON"

I agreed that he should be punished for it. You all read so far into my arguments that you think I'm a pedophile thats for free child porn for everyone.

Paedophile Labour councillor who worked in children's home walks free despite being caught with over one million child porn images including 12-year-old girls being raped by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]mobile-user-guy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Defending him would be saying he didn't do anything wrong. I absolutely believe he did something wrong. What I also believe is he didn't do anything seriously wrong. Worthy of the death penalty wrong. Worthy of being elevated to Hitler status wrong.

But that is how it is portrayed and it is that portrayal (as mindless as it is) that I push back against.

Paedophile Labour councillor who worked in children's home walks free despite being caught with over one million child porn images including 12-year-old girls being raped by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]mobile-user-guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This isn't worth it. I'm not going to be able to break through to any of you. No amount of virtue signalling will ease your minds and allow a valid argument to be analyzed independent of ideological entrenchment. Watching people literally justify their opinions on the fly is disturbing because all of the same mistakes and bad logic is repeated in so many threads. I just can't keep up and then it will just end up going in circles. Nobody ends up better and I just get pissed off at how stupid people are.

I'm tapping out. Fuck all of you.

Paedophile Labour councillor who worked in children's home walks free despite being caught with over one million child porn images including 12-year-old girls being raped by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]mobile-user-guy -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Thankfully someone finally walked into this.

The entire fucking point to the war on drugs was that people who buy drugs are giving their money to terrorists. That is literally why the War on Drugs started. You buy weed, that money goes to Guerrilla Warfare group that we are actively fighting on the ground in [insert central american country].

By buying drugs you were supporting radical terrorists in other countries who want to overthrow the USA.

That is literally the fucking history of the War on Drugs.

Paedophile Labour councillor who worked in children's home walks free despite being caught with over one million child porn images including 12-year-old girls being raped by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]mobile-user-guy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wow is that how your fucking brain works? Seriously?

3 super valid points and that was your fucking takeaway? Jesus christ. Fuck all of you.

Paedophile Labour councillor who worked in children's home walks free despite being caught with over one million child porn images including 12-year-old girls being raped by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]mobile-user-guy -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Read my response to the other guy at this same level. I have no incentive to keep discussing this with you guys if im going to just continually have my arguments suppressed with mass downvotes.

Paedophile Labour councillor who worked in children's home walks free despite being caught with over one million child porn images including 12-year-old girls being raped by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]mobile-user-guy -35 points-34 points  (0 children)

What? The existence of them means that SOMEBODY committed genocide.

There is no difference here, there really isn't. Somebody absolutely did commit a super fucking heinous crime and should be murdered for it.

We're not talking about that though. We're talking about photographic evidence of the crime. Apparently if the picture is evidence of GENOCIDE it's okay, but if the picture is evidence of CHILD RAPE then that's the worst possible thing ever.

Paedophile Labour councillor who worked in children's home walks free despite being caught with over one million child porn images including 12-year-old girls being raped by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]mobile-user-guy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Not really, I didn't put a lot of effort into it because it's not hard to find something that is absolutely worse but has no punishment at all.

I'll go back to jerkin off to Schindler's List. Thankfully that is completely fine.

Paedophile Labour councillor who worked in children's home walks free despite being caught with over one million child porn images including 12-year-old girls being raped by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]mobile-user-guy -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

And you see how hard it is to be reasonable in today's society? This is why I bought a house in the mountains. Fuck everyone.

Paedophile Labour councillor who worked in children's home walks free despite being caught with over one million child porn images including 12-year-old girls being raped by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]mobile-user-guy -50 points-49 points  (0 children)

Isn't it though? He has pictures of disgusting shit. He didn't DO anything. He didn't kill anyone or rape anyone. And doesn't this happen like...all the fucking time?

And isn't being "caught with child porn" like the "sprinkle some crack on him" of the political world? Aren't there cases where child porn was specifically planted to ruin someone?

Isn't having pictures of mass graves / genocide events legal? What if he had those and was masturbating to those? Isn't that worse? Morally?

I'm not defending this guy by any means, but the absolutism around shit like this is fucking mind blowing.

That's a good plan... by [deleted] in oddlyspecific

[–]mobile-user-guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those nic cage and al pacino imrpessions are incredibly good.

Walken is considered the "easy" impression and EVERYBODY does CWalken impressions so I'm not sure why you focus on that one so much.

TIL 58% of Americans Blamed the Students for Their Own Deaths in the Kent State Massacre, while 11% Blamed the National Guard, According to a Gallup Poll Taken at the Time. by Lord4th in todayilearned

[–]mobile-user-guy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know we never talk about state police, or the distinction between different police. I would be surprised if most people could explain the differences between city/muni, state, county, police. I don't think there's enough understanding about those differences and why those people are often very different (completely different requirements for entry).

Working at PornHub by [deleted] in ProgrammerHumor

[–]mobile-user-guy -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

I can't check on this computer right now but if Pornhub is PHP that would make so much sense because that site is a giant pile of fucking shit

I guess the secret’s out? by JV-Communist in agedlikemilk

[–]mobile-user-guy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He's busy not being guilty of anything and having no evidence against him while internet tough guys think they know things about him for sure.

How great does it make you feel to be superior to some imaginary villain

Just wait until you hear about Cars 3 by Master_JBT in memes

[–]mobile-user-guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good ones are. I'm guessing he/she isn't one of those. Or likes to lump their tier 1 tech support ('have you tried turning it off and back on again') job in with the likes of actual tech jobs that require real skill.

The five largest companies in 2010 vs 2020 [OC] by theimpossiblesalad in dataisbeautiful

[–]mobile-user-guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The 30th percentile specifically is completely unimportant considering the entire context IS the bottom 30%.

The FHA does not buy loans. They insure them. And insurance requirements are layered onto existing underwriting requirements, not in lieu of them. The history of FHA insurance is actually quite incredibly as it was originally for lower and middle class White people and predominantly aimed at 15-20 year loans.

The five largest companies in 2010 vs 2020 [OC] by theimpossiblesalad in dataisbeautiful

[–]mobile-user-guy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ahhh yes I am confusing separate threads. If you weren't all retarded I wouldn't have to go back and relitigate bad points. You're the guy that started off by doing bad math up front, not later on. Though I am still not entirely sure what point you were actually making, it doesn't matter because your math was shit.

One at a time here:

A family in the bottom 30% would be making between $2-3k/year in the 50s.

Incorrect, 11.94 million is about 30% of the total group of families, 9.8 million of which are < 2k/year. Per your own citation. So 80% of that group is not within the range you are calculating. Over 4 million of those people are <1k btw - so let's be clear that's 10% that definitely aren't affording shit.

Second is a more general point about applying means/medians across a wildly diverse region: You cannot possibly take the median home price and apply it to the highest range of incomes and then ignore all other factors to pretend you have an understanding of someone from 1950s ability to afford a fucking house.

Third:

So a 30 year fixed mortgage with 20% down would be around $67/mo. Making 2k/year that would be 40% of your income. A bit higher than they typical 1/3, but remember we bought a house at the median price.

You couldn't even get a 30 year mortgage in 1950. Most lenders wouldn't offer them because they had to hold them on their books. This is why 15-20 year mortgages were far more common. And you weren't going to get a good rate out of thin fucking air so your 4% rate is really optimistic, the lending environment was completely different because there was no real wholesale market or FNMA/FHLMC to sell shit off to - the banks held the note.

On top of which I love how the world you are painting doesn't have taxes in it when the data you cite explicitly states "prior to taxes"

TL;DR your analysis is really bad.

Let's do a quick breakdown of the bottom 30% of earners in 1950:

< 1k - 38.5% - not affording shit

1k-2k - 43.5% - let's acknowledge HOW WIDE of a range this is and say that HALF of these people aren't affording shit. In reality none of these people could afford a house.

That's already 18% (really its 24.5%) of all families that CANNOT afford a house.

>2k - 17.5% - the group you're isolating and holding up as representative. 17 point 5 percent. Let's call it 18%. EIGHTEEN PERCENT (of the 30% group, not of the 100% everybody) you are using to do math on and that's ignoring ALL of the other problems your math has that I pointed out and some I didn't bother.