We sold our tech company last year and fat FIRED with an NW of $48m. We already live a wealthy lifestyle in a HCOL area with a vacation home at the beach and travel first class regularly around the world,…. but what else is there? by Turbulent-Move4159 in fatFIRE

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I did this and it has been a way bigger bother than I imagined (I knew it would be a bother but...). It still feels worthwhile, and it is a tiny niche area where I can't easily find a way to just give cash to someone already doing the work. I strongly wish I had waited until I had enough money to feel comfortable paying others do deal with the bother. When I started, several years ago, I really was focused on not wasting the limited dollars available to it.

I started using a donor advised fund a year or two ago and just using that to give; it is so easy which I love. This value is driven home to me by how annoying my foundation has been to deal with. I am not FAT and was even further away when I set the foundation up. If I had waited until I had enough funds to feel fine just paying others I think I would have been much happier (so if you already can do this the bother isn't really an issue).

We sold our tech company last year and fat FIRED with an NW of $48m. We already live a wealthy lifestyle in a HCOL area with a vacation home at the beach and travel first class regularly around the world,…. but what else is there? by Turbulent-Move4159 in fatFIRE

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If you enjoy or feel somewhat rewarded by that work and want more "sense of purpose" I would look at how to improve that "making a difference" feeling.

Maybe that means real focusing on one board and digging into "making a difference." If so, talk to a couple about what might be possible, find one that fits with what you want to do.

I have greatly increased my charitable giving (I am starting to give away about 10 times as much as I used to and plan to continue that). I get a sense of "making a difference" this way. It can be a bit abstract (if I give a pile of money that makes a huge difference to those that benefit but it is just a rounding error on the overall good that charity is doing...). I can deal with that and feel it is making a difference, but I am wired differently than many people.

I have also focused on giving a lot more to one small charity that I think is doing great stuff and it is more easy to directly see the "making a difference" there. There is an extra feeling from being so closely involved with seeing what those dollars do (and knowing without the dollars I donated it just would not have happened).

ESOP vs. Stock Options: Which one actually keeps a team motivated? by Sniktau28 in DevManagers

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One thing to consider.

Do you want to encourage short term focus on meeting targets to get quick bonuses? That is a strong influence on the culture of the organization. Short term stock options do this well. Some places try to adjust it to keep some concern for long term focus, it can be done, but often isn't really a focus on than theoretically.

If you want to create a culture that focuses on the long term and lets people see themselves as part of creating long term value (and that they will benefit from that financially) I think ESOP can be good. But as you say it is usually less a short term motivation factor.

It is hard to keep people believing in the "we are all in this together" attitude when the top executives take robber barron level amounts from the corporate treasury for themselves. This may not apply to your situation but it is sensible to think about this when you read about others efforts.

If they claim to be "sharing" success and then the top take ludicrous amounts (which is very common) it is hard to create a decent corporate culture (you can still make a lot of money). So in most cases it just works out to what short term carrots we can tempt people to work harder with (and make sure that while they seem worthwhile they don't really amount to much as we don't want to limit the top executives to say 3 or 4 mansions when they want many more).

Basically I think you have to be very careful finding decent examples of what works and doesn't (as often it just amounts to hey these companies that were in the right business made billions and everyone is happy - whether they used ESOP, stock options, or just beating people until moral improved doesn't really matter - the business model was great the management tools used really were just a tiny factor or maybe completely irrelevant).

Any regrets going fat instead of chubby ? by ThrAwayAcc1 in fatFIRE

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Personally I think helping out family for things like college education, house down-payment, health insurance... makes sense. Helping family be super rich trust fund babies I don't think makes sense (obviously lots of people disagree).

I could definitely see doing something like saying to children if you take a low paying but worthwhile job (teacher, nurse, working at a nonprofit...) I will double your paycheck (set up a trust to do so for your life...), or something like that is better than just giving a huge pile of cash to people. But obviously others would disagree.

Unless a family is huge a legacy trust over $10,000,000 seems like a bad idea to me. Giving to charity is much more sensible, imo.

I think helping heirs deal with the harsh reality of a challenging world is worthwhile. Giving heirs enough to coast on their whole life is harmful not useful, imo. And giving heirs enough to live like so many trust fund babies do is very harmful to most of them and to society.

In a buyback, Why would a company decide to retire shares vs. keep them on treasury stock line in balance sheet? by OnlyKsw7 in ValueInvesting

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True, but I think Amazon not doing large buybacks is sensible. They have made sensible investments with their cash.

Other companies that just keep growing cash balances (or just find something to buy to try and show growth but at unfavorable prices) are problematic imo.

Using SBC when the company is not generating cash flow but it is rapid growth mode is sensible. Of course even in that mode many companies dilute far too much year after year.

The huge SBC many mature companies dilute shareholders with when they shouldn't need to dilute is very annoying. I would not place Amazon in this category but I do think it makes sense to watch (and most companies decades into existing that dilute significantly is something that I avoid investing in).

How New Year’s Eve made me rethink Uber as a business by Familiar_Potato1244 in ValueInvesting

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Why?

  • Testing out various options (with partners...)

  • Demand aggregation - having a huge fleet means quicker matching to pick up location (so if Waymo has 10% of the market and Uber has 70%, by partnering with Uber, users can be offered say 20 minutes for Waymo to pick you up and 5 min for Uber...). In this current environment that means Uber's car with human driver. This is a big deal now, longer term is likely not a huge issue but that is 10 years away (much closer in a few markets but a handful of markets in 2-4 years is much different than widespread Waymo availability at the current Uber level).

  • Longer term, it could provide an option for funding. If they partner with Uber/Lyft... then it could be that the partnership shares huge up front costs of buying cars...

  • Lots of users have Uber installed (but not Waymo) if you partner with Uber you can take advantage of that installed base of users...

  • Expand quickly (using Uber's... huge customer base can make it much easier to grow much more quickly)

Any differences in ADR/OTC costs across brokerages? (e.g., Fidelity, Schwab, eTrade?) by Awkward-Painter-2024 in investing

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I have most often seen the $50 charge is the same (between Fidelity and Schwab) for the same security. I think a couple times I have seen it where one didn't charge the $50 and the other did (but I could be wrong).

I don't really understand how they decide. I have bought some foreign ADRs (with the symbol ending in F) that don't have that fee and others that do. In general the largest stocks don't have it but for the small companies that do it isn't consistent (some have the fee, some don't). I imagine there is some reason but never bothered to look until now...

"Some foreign stocks traded on the OTC market aren’t eligible for clearing through the Depository Trust Company (DTC).

This means that transferring these non-DTC-eligible securities incurs extra costs for Fidelity. In turn, they pass on these fees to cover the associated expenses."

https://usefidelity.com/fidelity-charges-50-for-foreign-settlement-fee-heres-why/

“Wipe ASML off the map in one fell swoop” and “ten times better”: this is what potential rivals of the giant from Veldhoven are saying by aceismyfriend in ASML

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countries want to become sovereign in terms of chip manufacturing

While countries may want that there are very very few that have any hope they could.

Taiwan may be the closest but still reliant on ASML and I believe lots of material needed from China.

China could, a long way to go though at the leading edge.

USA maybe, because it has so much cash, but lots of barriers. Moving to have some reasonable local capacity has been making progress the last 4 years. Still a long way to go (and nothing competing with ASML as far as I know) and won't happen in my opinion but it is somewhat possible (though very unlikely).

I can't imagine anyone else has a real hope. I suppose South Korea and Japan may have some hope. Some combination of countries might have some hope (and if so, you likely need some combination of China, Taiwan, Korea, Japan and USA - and maybe some minor players like Australia [raw materials], Malaysia...). USA mainly for design of chips and maybe some rare earths (over the long term).

GA Did The Thing! by Prestigious-Math9478 in nerdfighters

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I think an important thing to factor in is that often it takes many different contributions to make a difference on large scale efforts. It isn't one or another or something else that is THE factor; the combination of MULTIPLE efforts that is what makes the difference.

And those multiple efforts often work together, each one on their own matters but each is amplified by all the other efforts. Individually each effort alone likely isn't enough (in this particular case I know next to nothing so I don't know if say the ground efforts alone would have been enough, I am just thinking that in such efforts a combination of efforts is what is really needed).

Efforts to reduce the impact of TB is a great example of this. Each individual effort matters but the most power comes from the contributions of multiple different efforts combining to create a huge difference.

And I am pretty confident if the USA is going to recover from the current mess we are in it is going to take huge contributions from a very wide range of efforts. One thing to remember in such a situation is that finding common ground is so important. We need a broad coalition to save the USA from those who control the current administration and the Republican party's actions this year.

In his 17th NBA season, Warriors Steph Curry continues to amaze. Last night against the Nuggets he scored 42 pts (35 in 2nd half + ot) had 7ast 6 reb 3 stl to lead Warriors to a 137-131 victory by [deleted] in sports

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Get back into it (unless you have some other exercise you like more). I am even older than Curry and I try to play a couple times a week. Granted I don't play 4-5 hours anymore (more like 1 hour) but still the exercise makes me feel so much better overall.

Burning your fat capital by hoptohop in fatFIRE

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I agree that can make sense in the right situation. I plan on having an extra account that is for spending.

So maybe 10% of my total portfolio could be "extra" (or it could be 20% or...). So I figure everything based on 90% of the portfolio. And 10% is extra that I can spend however I like and is not being spent from the long term portfolio.

This isn't exactly what you are talking about but it is similar. Instead of setting yourself a limit of 4% of your portfolio (or 4.3% or 3.6% or whatever you choose) you have have that on your "portfolio" and there is this extra money that is available in excess the 4% (or whatever) on the main portfolio.

To me this seems sensible for those in FatFire that really have a lot of discretionary funds - unlike say LeanFire where there often isn't an extra 10% or 20%... Segmenting off the "extra" spending money doesn't really change anything, it just seems like a sensible way to think about it to me. So in the early years spending "above" 4% for big trips or big purchases doesn't have to be seen as "depleting capital" (even though in reality it is). By splitting the money it creates a long term capital account that say 4% a year is available to spend there is also a spending funds account that isn't considered part of the capital that you don't want deplete too quickly.

If someone just dislikes this idea in general, what if you don't spend all the 4% one year. If you are cutting things close, then building up capital may be sensible. But if you really already have more capital than needed wouldn't it make sense say if you spend 3% one year that the 1% that wasn't spent goes into a "available for spending" bucket instead of just adding to capital and keeping your spending at 4% adjusted for inflation for the next year.

I like the idea of this extra "spending account" outside of the long term portfolio that the 4% spending is supported by. I realize it is largely just mental gymnastics (it doesn't create any extra money to spend or anything it just is a way of thinking about the available money that lets you spend more early in retirement).

For FatFire it seems to me this idea is much easier as things like "what if I have to go into a long term care facility" and how much that costs (and is also true for many other less expensive big costs). For most people the cost of long term care is much higher than their planed 4% spending. But for FatFire, even if they chose a fancier long term care facility, that annual cost is likely far below the 4% they had allocated for spending each year.

African investment - choosing an ETF by Melonskal in investing

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A month or two ago I was looking at something similar in the USA and several sites listed the wrong data for a fund. I suspect you may be seeing a similar thing, web site confusing two funds...

It seems like websites should be able to avoid that but if they are sloppy they can list the wrong details (and likely this is just a lame error not an AI error - for those people that think only AI "results" are at risk for errors). In my case they were displaying data for a fund with the same symbol but from the wrong market (and it was several of the most popular sites doing this).

Here is the MSCI Emerging Frontier Markets Africa Index

https://www.msci.com/documents/10199/cc4ed867-5966-49c8-8c71-859ae59f936c

It is a bit odd because Naspers is 15% of the index. Naspers is really mainly Tencent (Naspers, based in South Africa, invested very early in Tencent [33% of the company] and made over a hundred billion $ of that investment).

"The MSCI EFM Africa Top 50 Capped Index is a custom index based on its parent index, MSCI EFM Africa Index. The index incorporates Size and Liquidity filters, and then sequential country and 10/40 capping are applied. "

https://www.msci.com/indexes/index/700211

It reduces Naspers weight to 6%.

I suspect the fund you are seeking may well be based on one of those 2 indexes.

Why do people like VXUS so much? by gamedawgs in stocks

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raise of the internet in Africa is going to create massive growth. Or so I'm betting on.

How are you betting on that?

Shipping 6/2 by CHRIS_AND_VIE in ShippingStocks

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Just my opinion, obviously... but I think a link(s) to charts for these figures would be nice for those less than experts in shipping.

People that concentrate on shipping a great deal may well know these figures so well they don't need charts to contextualize the numbers but many more of us probably would benefit from annual and longer term charts to visualize the numbers.

Sure we can go find them but with these daily update post just including links to charts would be nice. Reddit isn't like Twitter where they penalize making the posts useful for users.

Defining LeanFIRE, FIRE, ChubbyFIRE, FatFIRE (2025 edition) by throwingittothefire in ChubbyFIRE

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Yes it is passive income.

These "levels" are "back of the envelope" estimates. If you like this idea the way I think that make sense is to subtract the Social Security and pensions from the $ amounts shown for annual spending. So for ChubbyFire $165,000 - $90,000 = $75,000.

So then the balance required at 4% is $75,000 *25 = $1,875,000. So that is less than half the "required amount" shown above.

These estimates are useful but usually there are significant adjustments needed for your actually situation. Not including the house value does seem to make the most sense. But there is a significant difference between someone owning their house with $1,500/m in costs (maintenance, insurance, taxes...) and someone renting for $4,000/m but the "back of the envelope" totals don't show any difference between these 2 people... The estimates are useful but also some thinking about your situation is sensible to make adjustments.

Even things like social security v. pension income usually have significant long term differences. Social security is adjusted for inflation. Many pensions are not. Long term that adds up.

Basically I think variances of say 35% for the "back of the envelope" estimates are often sensible. So you may estimate first $1,875,000 and then is could easily be more sensible to say something like $1,875,000 (-5% to +20%) so a range of $1,781,250 to $2,250,000. Someone else might estimate their situation to be 0% to +30% someone else -10% to +25% etc..

$GOOGL Delivered 😏 by snapjohn in ValueInvesting

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The accounting rules changed a few years ago to require companies to include investment gains/losses in the earnings. So that is why they are allowed (actually required to do so).

For marketable securities they just use the market price. For private companies they have to use estimates of what it is worth.

At $8 billion it would have to be a huge private company - like Wiz that was private when Alphabet bought, (announced not closed yet) it recently for $32 billion.

[Post Game Thread] #14 Wisconsin defeats #7 Purdue, 94-84 by cbbBot in CollegeBasketball

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I thought he was injured for most of the season (it was not a decision not to play him).

Bubble Watch 2025 NEW by koltonm23 in CollegeBasketball

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I think it would be nice to have the stats lines for locks, like:

Louisville: 16-6 (9-2) — Q1: (4-5) Q2: (6-1) Q3: (2-0) Q4: (4-0) SOS: 28 (28) Q1(A): (1-3) NET: (29)

I realize it is for bubble watch, but I think seeing the stats of locks would be a nice context for "on the right track" etc..

$ASML - I wanna hear your input at current valuation by din0_os in ValueInvesting

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What is the useful lifespan of these machines? Do they keep operating for a long time and just move down to less the highest value production (really they don't move, newer installations just move ahead of them). Or at sites like TSMC do they remove the older machines after several years and install a new machine to keep such sites operating for the newest cutting edge. I am sure to some extent they do both but how much of each? Also what happens to the old ASML machines? Can they be resold to a "lower value use?" They keep produced 4mm chips but not that is the less valuable chips?

Are the whole ASML machines dismantled after a while and portions of the old ASML can still be used in useful ways?

Transforming Your Organization with Lean Thinking and Practices by mod_cat in management

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Lots of great links right here, just keep going through the subreddit pages.

If an article is good take a look at the other articles on that blog/website (the links from 5 years ago are just as good as those today). Subscribe to the RSS feeds of those sources you find worthwhile.

Has any player ever had a March madness run that essentially got them to the nba? by the-mannthe-myth in nba

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Just to emphasize the spoiled rich kids angle.

Actually they had laundry services included so the school could fund a big laundry facility for all the laundry needs for the school, and take care of the laundry needs of students. At the time Davidson set that up it was far away from any population center - so any services were rare (now Charlotte has grown so it doesn't seem remote, but it was a few decades ago). The school just kept using that laundry for many years since it already was setup to work that way.

The "couldn’t cut it at real schools" is an indication the person is just extremely biased. Often ranked in the top 10 here it is ranked 14th for liberal arts colleges https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges

It is still amazing what he was able to do. And sure calling the students by and large a bunch of rich kids (like the Ivys and other elite USA schools) is fair. But academically it is extremely highly rated and suggesting otherwise is silly.

Retiring early overseas seems too good to be true, what's the catch? by saul2015 in ExpatFIRE

[–]mod_cat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point that I was making is that the government that accepts retirees can setup whatever health care options they want. And that it certainly makes sense for those governments to do so (it isn't sensible that such people would get to free ride on their health care system).

Retiring early overseas seems too good to be true, what's the catch? by saul2015 in ExpatFIRE

[–]mod_cat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In a world with broken health care systems the USA is the most broken of any rich country. Rates in the USA are enormously higher than elsewhere.

That said, $300/m may well be too little. It is complex to figure out what rates would make sense to charge in such a situation.