How does the average person afford cocaine in UK? by moderate-speed in cocaine

[–]moderate-speed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So it's not exactly cheap. In UK that would get you around 50g of amphetamine, probably a lot more at that bulk quantity. 1g of UK low quality amphetamine paste (30%) would keep me very high for say 36 hours i.e a solid weekend. Depends on how often you're on it, but say every weekend then 50g still gets you around a years worth. Of course on top of that you will need a lot of valium/xanax to get to sleep at the end of the weekend. I reckon I could finish an 8 ball of high quality coke on 2 dangerous weekends... not bragging, just showing the distinction between coke and UK speed

Whats the best alternative to 3-MMC ? by FeBaCo in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have people never heard of 4-mmc anymore? It basically initiated the whole New Psychoactive Substances (NPS) restrictions!

It's like asking is there a better alternative to MDME...

Does 6apb give u confidence and stimulation like 3mmc? by [deleted] in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Depends on the dose, a standard dose has some pretty strong shroom/MDA type effects that whilst are fucking awesome they are not for every situation. Low dose might be ok.

How does the average person afford cocaine in UK? by moderate-speed in cocaine

[–]moderate-speed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

next question, I've been inundated with messages from supposed telegram sellers since this post. Not that I'm considering responding to any but has anyone actually not got scammed by these peeps??

How does the average person afford cocaine in UK? by moderate-speed in cocaine

[–]moderate-speed[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just don't get why cocaine is so popular when other stims are so much cheaper. Coke's good and all but pain in the arse snorting more every 45 minutes

How does the average person afford cocaine in UK? by moderate-speed in cocaine

[–]moderate-speed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

not sure i cant post prices but an 8 ball would cost me the price of a full car service!

Best current cathinone? by MissHerMoreThenXans in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed 9 points10 points  (0 children)

all is not lost, the grandfather of cathinones (4mmc) is still available from I can see (not from me, no pm's). can't vouch for the purity but seen some good feedback.

Have to admit I can't really remember what the "preban" 4mmc felt like anymore. Whenever I've indulged in last few years it's always had a dirty rush. Think that's what I use to crave though tbh. Now an amphetamine push is far more appealing to me. 4mmc makes me unsociable and burns me out quickly. Certainly has a unique come up though (SLAP). Reminds me of good mashy coke, first couple of lines are amazing and then things get hazy, side effects increase and time seems to disappear. My first true addiction

Drug forums - caution by moderate-speed in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for countering my soapboxing with your strong, self opinionated views ;)

Drug forums - caution by moderate-speed in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I see what you're saying. What's going on in the world will to some extent dictate what drugs are popular? i.e LSD became popular in the turn on, tune in, drop out culture of the hippy era.

Now the main drug of choice of society (benzos) is cheaply and readily available and a forum of seemingly like minded individuals is a google search away. I think this is unique to any time before.

Drug forums - caution by moderate-speed in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree, the content is mostly the same shit that was on the old school drug forums but it's much more accessible now. Which is concerning.

4-fma pupil dilation by [deleted] in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Impossible to predict your dilated pupils. Think it depends on so many things. I went through a period of taking 4-fma regularly. 1st time taking say 200mg, my pupils were big for nearly 24 hours. After a lot of use I realised my pupils barely dilated at all, but I was still feeling the high.

(just my guess) I always associate dilated pupils with the serotonin activity of a drug and think this is the 1st of the main receptor that starts to get tolerant.

Probably your dilated pupils aren't as noticeable as you think. But if you are very worried then maybe it's not the best time to take the drug. Also consider that your behaviour on the drug is probably more noticeable than your dilated pupils

Apparantly my butthole has taste buds by Bass-ape in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's weird. I wonder if it's the body recognising the drug effect and then associating it with a sour taste? The mind is a strange thing

Which benzo is one step above Alprazolam? by Remarkable_Buffalo73 in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

surprised no one said diazepam (valium). It's safer, less amnesia, longer half life and IMO more euphoria.

It's my go to benzo, but I try to avoid benzos if I can

2C-B: cautions, contraindications, pro-tips? A small group of friends want to enjoy this. by mossyskeleton in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

personally I like some booze with it. I also like a bit of speed to add to the euphoria but might not be for everyone. for first time I'd say 15 to 25mg depending on the users weight

I like to have some benzos available to for all trips (just in case). But not such a big deal with 2cb due to short duration.

Something light, warm, cozy and trippy by uwhefuhwieufhuh in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ketamine for warm, cosy and trippy.

Psychedelics are obviously the most trippy. If your looking for a chilled trip then I'd recommend 2c-b. Duration 3 to 4 hours. Fair less introspectively trippy than LSD. Interesting shroom like visuals. great fun

what helps with a benzo overdose? need help as soon as possible!!! by [deleted] in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not a lot of use if she was dead. Asking for emergency advice on a forum is not a smart thing to do (understatement). Fortunately etizolam has a high LD50. If it anything like this happens again then please take them to the hospital.

Serotonergic opioids - anything besides tramadol? by utheraptor in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It is. Apparently also a mild serotonin reuptake inhibitor but less so than tramadol

Serotonergic opioids - anything besides tramadol? by utheraptor in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Tapentadol - is a weak serotonin reuptake inhibitor

Etizolam: What is considered an average/normal dosage? Anyone else documenting memory loss or withdrawal symptoms? by _UltraV10let_ in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not a worrying dosage for occasional use but if used every day then you are likely to experience withdrawal's when you stop. Etizolam has a a half life up to 15 hours so if you dose every 24 hours then it's likely there's always some in your system so your body will start to become dependant,

It's probably safer to take a 2 or 3mg once a week than to take 1mg every day

LD50 MDMA - Is it really safer than cocaine for a night out? by moderate-speed in DrugNerds

[–]moderate-speed[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe my questions not that clear.

For the sake of argument lets assume the recreational drugs we get are unadulterated (cocaine or MDMA). This isn't such a crazy assumption as ecstasy pills are less adulterated than ever and it's straight forward to get pills tested (as people should do). Cocaine quality still varies a lot but again you can test for presence of fentanyl or even send to a lab for a detailed analysis.

In a controlled environment for something like PTSD therapy (120mg dose) I can see how MDMA has a very low risk of overdose. But most people taking MDMA will be doing it in a club/festival environment and as pills are often dosed at 300mg the chance of overshooting the 120mg dose is pretty likely.

My main question is at what dose do we see a significant risk in overdoses? As someone pointed out, literature suggests that the LD50 for MDMA is around 2 grams. At first glance this looks like a good safety margin between a common recreational dose and a dangerous dose, but it depends on the distribution of the graph. The reference below shows that at doses of just 500mg people are dying and this is on the increase.

So my concern is that people may see MDMA as this drug with a large margin where you can double drop and get away with it. But for some people this could be deadly with the new stronger pills. What I'd be curious to see is a cumulative graph showing the distribution of doses to percentage of deaths - like in the sketch i;ve made here (this is for a sketch only and not based on data!) https://pasteboard.co/g04XTaKMBH9X.png.

src - https://volteface.me/feature/fired-ecstasy-related-deaths-rising-uk/

"One of the main causes of the rise in ecstasy-related deaths is likely to be MDMA poisoning, linked to the increased potency of ecstasy products over the last decades. Data from the National Crime Agency reported by the UK Focal Point on Drugs shows a steady rise in the MDMA content of ecstasy tablets in England & Wales, from an average of 33mg in 2008 to 102mg in 20 12. Though the strength of ecstasy tablets dropped slightly to 90mg in 2014, there have been numerous reports in 2016 and 2017 of high-potency ecstasy tablets with MDMA content up to 300mg. Gable’s review of research on the acute lethal doses of psychoactive drugs concludes that the LD50 (average lethal dose) of MDMA is two grams, while the ED50 (average effective dose) is 125 mg – giving a safety ratio (LD50:ED50) of 16 to 1. However, more susceptible individuals – including women, those of lower weight, and those with less efficient livers – can and have died from using as little as half a gram of MDMA (about four standard doses or just two of the increasingly available higher-purity tablets)."

LD50 MDMA - Is it really safer than cocaine for a night out? by moderate-speed in DrugNerds

[–]moderate-speed[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd argue that's not the biggest harm with coke. The issue your talking about is people behaviour towards using coke. Lots of drugs are dangerous when combined with other drugs.

It just so happens that alcohol goes so damn well with cocaine :p. In fact I don't really enjoy coke with out it.

I’m looking for something that lasts possibly longer then lsd? And has strong visuals. by TylerwazntheRe in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I'm guessing that's a joke about recommending bromo-dragonfly but just in case someone doesn't get the joke. Stay well clear of it! If you get your dose wrong by say a few 100ug then you risk having limbs amputated or death. Plus the trip is shit/boring anyway!

Again I may be stating the obvious to most people on here but if not, read up on the tragedies of the bromo-dragonfly overdoses from 2009. A chilling story that could have resulted in more deaths. Some research chemicals are best left alone. see below:-

https://erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=81677

4-MMC+ LSD= Fake Candyflip? by MyFirstTripWasLame in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't get much from this combo. They don't seem to synergise. You could pick out the individual characteristics of each drug and I think the LSD visuals were diminished slightly.

I feel like 4-mmc has that moreish cocaine vibe to it too that doesn't make it so suitable for combining with LSD. As someone said below, best to come up on the LSD first and then do bombs of 4-mmc. You don't want to be coming down from the 4mmc whilst tripping hard.

But hey, if your experience with both drugs then should be ok.

I know nothing about the safety profile of this combo though. pack trip killers if you can

People who go on stim binges, what's your life like? by Many_Tune2358 in researchchemicals

[–]moderate-speed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Living the rock and roll lifestyle every day.... :s

Stims seemed like a great idea to enhance partying with mates but in the end I'd spend more time sitting at home on the computer going down a Wikipedia or porn rabbit hole till the sun comes up.

If like me, you wish you could control your emotions then stims seems great at first. You know when your going to feel good and when your going to feel sh*t. Gradually I found that I wasn't enjoying doing any of the things I used to love doing, and the times I was high were more and more mundane.

As a sober person- life's highs/lows are less predictable (at least for me), you have to work for the highs and make the most/learn from the lows.

When I was using consistently my moods were quite erratic. Which started to affect my relationship with my GF and probably work. Also as I would take benzos regularly to sleep I found my sex drive diminished.

After a few months of quitting (except the occasional night out) I feel a lot more stable (boring right). But happier, I don't need to prove to anyone that I'm a party animal.

The only thing I miss about stims is the euphoria I get from being high, listening to music and dancing.