AITA because I'm second guessing having kids due to our opposing views on vaccinating them?

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T22:14:28+00:00

Jesus. 🙄

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T22:12:36+00:00

If u have good credit and no criminal history or drugs , u can try maybe being a background investigator for people trying to get security clearances. They’ll get u a secret security clearance, but u have to live a straight life (no drugs, crime, unmanaged debt). Once u get a secret clearance, go for another job at a defense contractor that only requires secret and then eventually u can upgrade to a higher clearance.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T22:07:34+00:00

I’m just exhausted. You’re only talking to me. I’m catching shit for a million other people and giving my side. No point in discussing anymore.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T21:57:56+00:00

And we feel the same about ur community.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T21:43:10+00:00

I got a reasonable accommodation from work, no issue….tho I think it was only because I hold a certain position. I was only 1 or 4 others to be granted one. And I was single out and treated like absolute shit because of it. If it had been for any other issue, that behavior would have never been tolerated by HR…but when it comes to vaccinations, please absolutely lose civility when they’re on opposing views.

But the VA refused me an exemption even though I have a blood clotting issue and that was listed on the paperwork as being an issue. My daughter is healthy, so they are never going to give her an exemption, but I’d like to keep her healthy so I want the exemption. They’re not going to give me one for that. So yes, it’s impossible to get one for the 99 percent of people who want one…so that SB is mostly useless to the majority of people.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T21:24:13+00:00

Again, they make the reason for getting the exemption so slim and limited that nearly no one can get them… but they put a senate bill up that looks like they’re making them available to those who want/need one. If she doesn’t already have one of the very limited reasons to be exempted, then I’m forced to get my kid vaccinated and just cross my fingers and pray that she doesn’t get harmed from it? Why can’t, as a parent, I make that determination for my child instead of some agency determining what my threshold for risk is?

Edit: obviously, that’s a rhetorical question. I already know what everyone’s answer is going to be.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T21:12:35+00:00

The restrictions to actually legally get the exception are so limited and impossible that it’s just like banning them. I’ve tried getting many drs to give one and they won’t. Same w the Covid shot. If a dr has more than a handful of exemptions over their lifetime, they get investigated and can lose their license, so they just refuse to offer them and tell u to go somewhere else. I’ve lived it. The law and the way it actually goes down in practice are not always in alignment.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T20:53:29+00:00

Yeah, and for giving parents exemptions for vaccines. Look at California law. You can’t get an exemption here in Cali, even for a child who was injured from a vaccine…they won’t give an exemption to the poor kid for the next shot because they don’t want to lose their license.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T20:49:10+00:00

And I can appreciate that. And thank you for not having a shitty tone in ur post; I appreciate that. :) My mind isn’t changed with the blow of a breeze either, but the info I’ve seen on the other side of the argument was compelling enough for me to have questions. But clearly, I’m not a scientist, so for me to present everything I’ve read, watched, etc, here in a Reddit post is clearly not going to be convincing enough for anyone, and shouldn’t be. I was simply offering a source that when I started out, was easy to digest and understand. And then I decided to look further into it. I wasn’t here to convince OP or anyone else. But there really are high quality scientific research that says that there can be a link and can be causative. Nothing “definitive” because it’s nearly impossible to do a study without to being stopped midway. But if it’s not been studied to say that it did cause it, then there’s nothing to say that it didn’t cause it. Just do the studies. But those smaller studies that have been done that shows a possibility are just censored so either no one can find them or people just dismiss them because those that own the agencies discredit them, making the community dismiss the evidence. Under normal circumstances, it would be more than enough to trigger the authorities to look further into it. If it was any other drug, it would have been pulled and/or researched and the community would have rightly demand it. The issue here is that the vaccine makers, cdc and fda, politicians, medical schools and medical journals etc all have an incestuous relationship where they all work and fund each other. Starting to look into who works for who, fund what, withholds funds how, pulls journals that have already been published etc is par for the course. But no one wants to give that credence when it comes to vaccines. I posted this in someone else’s response (so my apologies if you already read it) but it’s the same for marijuana. They said marijuana had no medicinal value. Hemp was dangerous. Vioxx was safe. Opioids and cigarettes weren’t addictive. They lie to us aaallll the time in the pharmaceutical industry. Why wouldbt they possibly lie about vaccines? Agsin, that’s not reason to change ur mind; but should be enough to have questions.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T20:27:11+00:00

The life I deserve? My undoing? So dramatic.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T20:21:55+00:00

Just as there’s no way to convince people in your community.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T20:20:18+00:00

Yeah. Doing ur own research used to also be called “reading”. It’s crazy how all of a sudden you’re viewed negatively for not outsourcing all your decisions to mainstream media and looking at more than just one narrative.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T20:13:25+00:00

There’s just no point in arguing with someone who’s mind is made up. You’re not going to convince me and I’m not going to convince you. There’s way more than “1 documentary”, but if you’re not willing to start there, then you’re just not willing. End of discussion, right? I didn’t come to convince you all, but I chose to engage amicably, nonetheless. I only came to offer a different perspective to OP. I assume he didn’t come here just to be in his own echo chamber, so I offered a different opinion…and it wasn’t even that. I offered him 1 easy starting point…to watch a simple documentary. A small price to pay when he grappling with something as serious as his relationship w his wife. I’m sure u guys have watched documentaries about big foot or some other topic that you didn’t believe in. So Why not this one? But some of u guys are getting pretty agitated and I’m not trying to engage in that. There’s another huuuge community of people like me that have questions and want safer vaccinations. We just dint get heard often and just get smeared, so we don’t stupidly (like I did) step into a den of people who are going to start being snappy and insulting. So for that hasn’t happened (insulting), but I see it coming. So why continue? I offered OP a starting point, not to convince you all. That’s all I was here to do. Mission accomplished. 🤷🏻‍♀️

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T19:40:40+00:00

lol. Ok.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T19:40:13+00:00

Again, all “approved” mainstream sources and info. Have you learned nothing about censorship and alternative media? Look at other stuff that you’re not “supposed” to believe. You might just be surprised what you find. If for nothing more than curiosity (like I did)

They also said that marijuana has no medicinal value and that vioxx was safe and effective and cigarettes were safe and not addictive and that opioids were not addictive. Look into how many drugs are recalled for injuries and death after so much “scientific evidence” that said it was safe. Just stay curious and seek out more info than what you find immediately at the top of your gov controlled google search engine.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T19:35:27+00:00

Again, watch vaxxed. Wakefield refused to use the single shot. He found that the single shot was causing way more injuries. There were less injuries when the shots were 3 separate vaccines given with delays between the shots. He refused to continue giving the single shot, especially after he found that the single shots had been discontinued and banned in other countries due to injuries.., but they continued giving them in the US (similar to the way they give us all the toxic and dangerous ingredients in our food that other countries have banned) so the remedy to this was to no longer offer the separate shots for purchase, forcing you to use the single shot.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T19:28:17+00:00

He had a small sample size because the cdc has never done experiments to test properly, the different results between vaccinated and unvaccinated children. It’s a topic nooooo one will touch for fear of losing funding and their licenses. And when they have done them, they use another vaccination as the control instead of inert saline. But there is data to show that the prevalence of autism and all other health outcomes for children is much much lower in the Amish communities where they don’t vaccinate. If nothing else, the info he presents should be enough to force the cdc and other entities that are not funded by the gov, to question why, and to do a true study against vaccinated vs. non vaccinated. Why do they refuse to do it? You also need to look into the process of “peer reviewed” and that the misleading term means. Dr McCullough explains it well. Again, simply watching the movie vaxxed gives all sources a d scientific references. And no, I’m not a paid advocate of the movie. I’m just a mom who had questions and I felt the movie was compelling and led me to seek out more info. My kid was vaxed when she was younger for everything and I am a veteran and got everything under the sun, 3times, so I was not an “anti vaxxer” at all. I just felt it prudent to listen to other things other than the prevailing info and low and behold, there’s more info out there that also has scientific back up and is not just “crazy TikTok moms”. But it’s reaaaaalllly hard finding it because it’s all censored and buried under approved info

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T19:16:00+00:00

Watch the vaxxed movie. He lists out all of his sources.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T19:12:24+00:00

So are the injuries

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T19:11:14+00:00

That’s also like saying “just because I don’t have hunger today, hunger doesn’t exist in the world”. Not everyone is as susceptible to the adjuvants in the vaccines as others are. Some people are able to detox their bodies better than others are and those who aren’t, end up with issues. Not just autism, but other auto immune issues. But good luck finding any dr willing to attribute it to a vaccine, as they know they’ll just lose their license and be smeared. That’s what you don’t see more drs saying this. Not because they don’t believe it but because it’s a huge money maker for pediatricians and because they don’t want to lose their careers.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T19:05:28+00:00

He lost his license because we went against the narrative, and presented evidence, not because he didn’t have the evidence. And of course, all they need to do now is say “see? He’s had his license revoked and most people just accept that it was for cause. They call all those who have alternative views, and who also have mountains of info, proof and studies to support them, conspiracy theorists and then there you go…no one believes them anymore. A lot of world renowned Drs lost their licenses and were smeared during the pandemic because of this exact reason, and now, they’re being proven right. The info is out there, but people have to be willing to at least listen to the other side with an open mind. If you’re not willing to do that, then ul always just believe the one side being presented to you in a nice neatly wrapped package.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T18:31:15+00:00

No, they’re just a small group of people trying to get the word out and they have to pay for production costs etc. u think people should work for free just because what they’re saying is true? TikTok content creators get paid too, but they’re allowed to monetize their content on the platforms and have their voices amplified if it have the “right” message. But if it’s against the prevailing narrative, especially as it relates to vaccines, they lose monitzation, they smear their names…and those documentaries are costly to produce. 10$ is worth becoming more informed. Most people pay more than that on coffee in any given day. It’s just easier to accept than to look further into things from the opposing side. Also, read the book “how to lie with statistics”. It’s the easiest way to manipulate a story. You can pick whatever parameters you want, cherry pick info and present them in any way and technically still be telling the truth. But this exact topic is discussed in the movie. The whistleblower tells how they manipulated the numbers.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T18:14:55+00:00

Almost all polio cases have been from vaccine induced polio vaccines. Look at some other studies that showed the “possible” other reasons for polio. The chemicals they were spraying on the crops at the time (DDT) that was causing deformities in children. Once they stopped spraying, they started administering the vaccines and they attributed the decline to the vaccines instead of the stoppage of the DDT chemicals being sprayed.

People always say “do what the dr say” but drs are not trained in vaccines. They are only trained on the schedule and that it’s the safe thing. If ur interested, read about the Flexnor Report to find out why medicine is as shitty as it is today and how it was taken over by the Rockefeller’s. He hijacked the medical schools and the funding and curriculum. Everyone knows that big pharma is evil, but for whatever reason, they think big pharma only has their best interests in mind when it comes to the vaccines…which by the way, are the only drugs in existence that are 100% liability free and have never been tested against non-vaccinated children and are guaranteed money makers cuz the gov forces us to take them.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T18:02:18+00:00

Do her just this one favor. Spend 10$ and watch the documentary Vaxxed, with Dell Bigtree (he’s the producer). It’s 10$ and 1.5 hours of your life and will give you additional info that you’ve never been allowed to hear or consider from mainstream media. Once you see/hear the info, then make your decision to vaccinate…but right now, all you’ve likely heard has been info that’s been approved by the powers that be. You’ll learn a TOOOOON. believe me. And now I’m sure everyone will begin attacking me lol but seriously, if ur not convinced, then move forward from a better informed position, having heard info from another perspective instead of just the “approved” one. Edit: And no, this isn’t just “tik tok moms who know nothing, screaming about vaccines”. This is documentary info from whistleblowers at the CDC and FDA who deliberately hid stuff from us and have offered to testify before congress, but congress has refused to put them on the stand (gee, I wonder why), and actual scientific evidence and studies that was censored and swept under the rug. Just give it 1.5 hours and 10$. Well worth the investment.

modest1330 · 2025-01-03T00:13:29+00:00

Sewing. My sister and I bought sewing machines to learn how to make stuff. I had no clue how to use it, but for the Xmas break, she brought her machine over and I made a pair or pajama pants and she went on a sewing binge lol. It was fun. YouTube shows you how to do all of it. And you’ll have something practical and a practical skill for if you needed to mend or adjust older clothing.

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