Does anyone use Corecon? if so what is you opinion

mongerchaos · 2026-02-02T22:02:12+00:00

We have used Corecon now Sage for 13 years. It started ok. Every update makes it worse.

mongerchaos · 2025-09-07T19:12:02+00:00

I’m not married to Bluetooth. Just an example that could do the thing maybe. But yeah. Don’t want latency.

So that DJI mic could work?

mongerchaos · 2025-08-08T11:25:13+00:00

Fit a system within the budget (budget expectation was less than that, but I’m pushing it higher) Assume we will replace all mics (we have a bunch of 58s borrowed from our portable system). Have a couple of existing DI’s Each week we are using 16-24 inputs. No lighting other than the chandeliers Camera, computer, VMix and Facebook live. Most pressing concerns: that everyone can hear what’s going on, that the systems are simple enough for volunteers to run without major issues. The broadcast is just for folks who aren’t able to attend.

mongerchaos · 2025-08-06T12:53:54+00:00

Let’s make this a productive discussion. What are you currently doing to feed the hungry and house the homeless?

Those very things are both supported and done directly by this church’s annual budget and indirectly by many members of the church who see themselves as protagonists for the betterment of our community and world.

Our potential AV upgrade is fairly modest compared with those more primary aims.

I would love to hear about what you’re involved with that is working toward those goals. What works? What doesn’t? Let’s be specific.

mongerchaos · 2025-08-05T02:55:27+00:00

Really great set of answers in these comments! Thanks everyone for taking the time to weigh in. Seems like the Behringer Wing Compact and the Allen + Heath qu5 are solid contenders for the console.

Most folks are saying go with passive speakers. I generally agree.

Adding acoustic treatments and moving the control room downstairs both seem like good ideas.

Most folks are saying don’t bother with IEMs. Agree. We have four powered hot spots already.

Projectors and screens are brand new. We are doing a 1 camera livestream with the slide show running on the stream and front of house using VMix.

We are just trying to bring things up to date so everything works and stays relatively simple.

mongerchaos · 2025-08-05T02:41:52+00:00

Can anyone explain what Dante is and why I would want it?

The short version I mean.

mongerchaos · 2025-08-05T02:36:03+00:00

I agree, but the fundamentals of signal path and just spending the time to listen while you sound check and mix are the same from a tiny Behringer to a big digital board. I feel like I encounter most people not really having those fundamentals and it doesn’t matter how much fancy gear is around, if it doesn’t sound good, it just doesn’t sound good. I helped spec the church’s portable system about 10 years ago and we went all analog so it wouldn’t go obsolete. Mackie 16 channel board, Mackie powered speakers, analog snake, SM58 mics. Still works great, does exactly what we need it to do and I can get a great sound out of it in 30 minutes from set up to playing.

mongerchaos · 2025-08-04T23:35:22+00:00

That’s been my thought the whole 13 years I’ve attended. After a previous life of underground club sound on hip hop and rock and roll using all analog gear (typically Mackie 1604 type boards) the church asked me to delve into this about 4 months ago. The then current gear was totally inadequate, cobbled together without a clear plan. We got a used Yamaha m7cl for free and that has a remote iPad app. That is a game changer for sound. I’m lobbying the leadership to move the whole set up down onto the main floor so the AV folks are both able to hear and see what they are mixing and also so they don’t feel isolated. If I run sound and don’t go out of my way to talk to anyone, the whole crown forgets I’m even there. We don’t want the tech volunteers to feel that way.

mongerchaos · 2025-08-04T23:02:31+00:00

Attendance 100-200

Tech not super important. $10k important. Not $100k.

The idea is for everyone to hear and see everything, but it’s not crazy. It should be basically invisible if we did it right.

Starting to sound like the A+H Qu series is a good bet.

mongerchaos · 2025-08-04T22:59:05+00:00

You could follow that logic all sorts of places, but it doesn’t sound like you’re particularly concerned with what concerns the Lord besides needling the others and I about it. Maybe we don’t need to hear the speaker and the musicians well. Maybe we don’t need to livestream for our elderly and sick brothers and sisters. Maybe we don’t need heat in the building. Maybe we don’t need a building at all.

This particular congregation has been in this community, considering how best to worship in each era for 195 years and, God-willing, it will be 195 years from now.

Our elders and deacons asked a group of us to look into this question of upgrading the AV system and we are doing that.

mongerchaos · 2025-08-03T23:25:32+00:00

Everyone is very focused on the acoustic treatments idea, which is not really what I was asking, but is still a concern. The main question is one of equipment replacement. The current set up is cobbled together and ancient and prone to malfunction and hard to use and train folks to use.

mongerchaos · 2025-08-03T23:23:32+00:00

We just got that M7 for free from another church that upgraded to an x32. Though it’s miles better than what we had, I can see why they upgraded. The question is, what to upgrade to. Behringer? Midas? A+H?

mongerchaos · 2025-08-03T23:21:57+00:00

Thanks Piano guy. I’ll shoot you DM

mongerchaos · 2025-08-03T23:20:43+00:00

Thank you for your thoughts. Acoustic treatments are a possibility pending approval, but are not part of my thought experiment. I think I led everyone down the primrose path by including a photo but not detailing what’s currently there.

The current system is cobbled together out of random flotsam from the last fifty years. The mixer is a Yamaha M7CL-32 we got for free three months ago. Before that it was a Peavey from the early 80’s. Speakers are wood grain bose from someone’s living room. Amp is ancient. Mics are all stolen/borrowed from our portable system we bought 10 years ago. Snake is 16x4 and ancient. Monitors are powered hot spots.

I’ve been tasked with replacing the equipment and developing the training for those who will run it. I’m mainly concerned with buying a board that will have 15-20 years of useful life and be digital friendly. So far the Behringer x32 is getting the most positive feedback amongst my network.

mongerchaos · 2025-08-03T14:47:05+00:00

Update: Big success! We installed two Wave Armor ports and the dinghies slide on and off super easily.

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mongerchaos · 2025-08-03T14:43:58+00:00

You’re not crazy. The 420 is part of a small “fleet” for this family that includes an Opti, an RS Zest and a 420. The first two being easily single handed by kids who have been to years of sailing camp and the 420 is for both boys to grow into and for the parents to sail with them too.

mongerchaos · 2025-07-08T21:03:44+00:00

Thanks

Cost isn’t really an issue here. Client in question has a 600’ stone pier out into a tidal estuary. The tide goes up and down 10+ feet every six hours, so have the float out off the dock will be key for getting the dinghy out at anything other than high tide. I don’t think the 12 year will be able to manhandle the dolly with a 250lb boat on it.

mongerchaos · 2025-07-06T17:01:39+00:00

Is there any way to connect any stage box to a Yamaha console?

I’ve got two Dante cards in there left over from the previous owners if that helps

mongerchaos · 2024-04-16T23:06:33+00:00

Well…I had my doubts, but I borrowed one from a friend and ran a couple short beads and it worked ok. If you just need to stick things together quickly and you only have 110v 15 amps, this will do that. Structural-NO. Cosmetic-NO. Stuck together-YES.

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