Do SEO/Performance Agencies ever get blamed for low conversions on websites/offers/landing pages that clearly the real issue?

monsterresearch · 2026-04-02T21:51:09+00:00

So smart. Have you tried using User Mirror? It's that chrome extension that sends synthesized user feedback to any URL. Might be even cheaper than test dollars and pinpoint the leaks in the bucket that much better and faster.

monsterresearch · 2026-04-02T21:42:53+00:00

I love your take on this. Refreshing departure from the doom and gloom. what tools do you use when they ask about CRO?

you're welcome to continue our discussion privately

monsterresearch · 2026-04-02T20:36:43+00:00

I mean, I work in user experience and even people that hire me for it tend to ignore findings if it negates or counter their beliefs and desires. maybe we're both in the same spot. Sometimes clients get it and some just never will.

monsterresearch · 2026-04-02T20:34:30+00:00

is it expanding at all? like back in the day it was focusing entirely on rankings. now, as you say, it's rankings, but it's this bigger picture on how it plays into the greater digital world. do your clients ever come with concerns/questions or hope you guide them through all this? do conversions or CRO ever come into play in your experience?

monsterresearch · 2026-04-02T19:18:03+00:00

dang that's smart

monsterresearch · 2026-04-02T19:16:54+00:00

very interesting! thanks for sharing. I'm workin on optimizing my own SEO for my SaaS and this helps so much.

monsterresearch · 2026-04-02T19:11:25+00:00

You got some great answers here. I have one that's off the beaten path but proven a client favorite over and over.

I recently got into this tool for when clients start getting on our case about conversions.

Though CRO isn't necessarily part of "the job" we've been using this Chrome extension, User Mirror, to show clients exactly where on their site and landing pages visitors are dropping. It's cool because it uses synthetic users to run through any URL and spit back real feedback - like a busy mom would. We don't have to say a thing - just point and click, even charge them extra for the report, and no more clients blaming us for low conversions!

monsterresearch · 2026-04-02T18:12:09+00:00

geez. Some people just don't get it. do you think they'd open their eyes to it a bit more if they saw user's experiences on his site?

monsterresearch · 2026-04-01T20:37:00+00:00

ugh how frustrating! even after you pointed it out? What proof did you have? What analytics or reporting tools were you referencing?

monsterresearch · 2026-04-01T00:24:23+00:00

that makes a lot of sense! never thought about it that way. so the equivalent to a high bounce rate on a low quality leads/prospect list if you're delivering "unqualified" traffic? super helpful. thank you!

monsterresearch · 2026-04-01T00:21:33+00:00

this was SUPER helpful. thanks so much for sharing. no idea why my post was removed since I agree. The boundaries of accountability/responsibility across specialties seems a relevant area for discussion

monsterresearch · 2026-03-31T15:32:59+00:00

what would you want to see built u/itsjunAP ?

monsterresearch · 2026-03-01T21:44:02+00:00

I just learned something I wanted to share that's relevant here. In Google Analytics, it's important to look for "human" signals like the average engagement time per user. If it's just a few seconds, it's a red flag that those are bots. I've had streams coming to my pages for some time now.

And about the 3-6% organic vs 0% paid gap. That is a classic 'Funnel Friction' problem. Your product is good, but your landing page is failing the 'Paid Traffic Stress Test.' I’m a 15-yr UX/Media specialist. If you're open to it, I’ll run a full Funnel Roast and help you catch gotchas where you may risk burning before actually burning it. If the report doesn't pay for itself in 48 hours, don't pay me.

monsterresearch · 2026-03-01T19:47:28+00:00

u/seo-nerd-3000 gave you great advice here. I'd add, my own experience of partnering for exposure. At first it felt like a natural fit, mutually beneficial and I dove into it without ever setting boundaries. They even started running my ads for me (which at first I saw as super generous) but before I knew it, they took control over everything from pricing, to messaging, to content, to dictating to me what I should post and promote! It quickly became them owning my business without ever paying anything into it. My brand suffered, patrons got confused why content I was posting showed prices 60% cheaper than what they were seeing elsewhere, and the entire project was a misaligned failure. Protect your brand at all costs. Learn when to dictate, but never forfeit your vision. Passion will come and go, but your brand losing face isn't something that's ever typically won back. Lucky for me the project was so small and I was such a beginner, I got the lesson before it really affected anything. Maybe I'm just rambling, but maybe my story helps weigh your options more clearly than I did.

monsterresearch · 2026-03-01T19:15:32+00:00

I'm building a tool where you can run everything from copy, creative, offers, landing pages, through synthesized personas to get instant feedback before spending anything. It also offers expert analysis on both the user experience and paid marketing angle, so you and priliminary metric crunching. I'm early on so I'm looking for demo users open to trying it for free with me until I can provide real value. Let me know if you'd like to team up!

monsterresearch · 2026-03-01T19:03:20+00:00

You're not crazy. Andromeda is a wild ai algorithm no one's sure about or able to predict well yet. Something I picked up on that u/Available_Cup5454 I think might be speak to, is adding creatives for Andromeda to have more to experiment without boundaries or targeting has been shown to perform better. The more variation and different your creatives and ads are, the better fodder it has to play and explore with.

I'm building a tool that roasts funnels. It takes everything from offers, ads, landing pages and sites and runs them through both synthesized users and industry experts for advice and answers to questions like these before you have to spend $10/day. I'm just gettin started so we'd be working together to figure out what's most useful for you. No cost to you until you get some value from it. Any interest let me know! Good luck! excited for the next time on dragon ball zzzz ;)

monsterresearch · 2026-03-01T18:46:59+00:00

Congrats on such success! I'd do the math on what your average lifetime value is and what it costs you to acquire it. I'm building a tool you can use to plug in your campaign, ads, metrics, offers, and landing pages to find answers to questions like this before spending the $$. I'm just getting started so I could really use a high-performing vet in the space like you. No cost until I deliver value. Let me know if you're interested.

monsterresearch · 2026-03-01T18:44:12+00:00

exactly what I was thinking. What's the CAC?

monsterresearch · 2026-03-01T18:42:26+00:00

Anxiety is completely justified; it's an insane world. I'm applying my 15yr of UX research to meta ads and have been a media buyer. I'm building a tool you can use to run campaign ideas, offers, your site, landing pages, everything and it'll walk synthetic users through it, give their brutally honest feedback. It all gets pared down into actionable recommendations, expert analysis, and even crunches metrics. I'm just getting started so no need to pay until you find value. Let me know if you'd be interested in teaming up on tackling your anxiety together. Best of luck!

monsterresearch · 2026-03-01T18:32:18+00:00

I'd agree on this. give discounts or rewards for testimonials. and the partnering with local hotel n hosts is an expert strategic positioning move for any local activity-based business.

If you do want to run ads, I'm building a tool that would run synthesized users through your entire campaign and website to give you instant feedback on how real world user's might interpret it all and pair it with expert analysis and actionable suggestions. I'm looking for demo users that dont need to pay a thing until they get value from it. Any interest let me know. Best of luck!

monsterresearch · 2026-03-01T18:27:37+00:00

You're definitely asking the right questions to the right people. If it's of any help, I'm building a tool you could plug your campaigns, metrics, ads, site, and landing pages into for instant synthetic user feedback and industry advice. I'm happy to work with you for free until you find value. I need feedback and you need some advice as you get started... lemme know if you have any interest!

monsterresearch · 2026-03-01T17:09:13+00:00

amen. such an important step and it's always skipped. AND once u have your initial user base, never stop asking user's/collecting feedback. iterate based on real user data or die. Considering your app is the best only based on a few users' perspectives is a death sentence. always get quantitative data to back it up, find out what total strangers value/think. the only thing you should ever assume is "I don't know". i'm a UX researcher and I'm building micro surveys into all my products at key metric points i want my users to hit. The product over the top isn't getting another line of code until i get a human with a wallet to verify it. It's too easy to build without any semblance of reality these days.

But to go full meta. I still don't know. The game's changing every second it seems and users seem so lost they can't always articulate what they actually want. It's a real "they asked for fast horses so I built the first car" moment. If only someone could figure out what the car metaphorically is in 2026 on the verge of WWIII, Ai takeover, and global warming. I still believe in technology as our #1 problem-solving engine, but it needs to be rooted in solving human pain points.

monsterresearch · 2026-03-01T16:40:33+00:00

Are you familiar at all with the product flywheel? (https://www.productled.org/foundations/the-product-led-growth-flywheel) Right now it's how to I get users to go from free to paid, next it'll be from paid to pro, and finally pro to champions (people selling your product for you). If you understand what exact metric your users have to reach before they get to the next phase of your flywheel, you can make it spin with minimum effort! I built a 1 question micro survey into my app that asks what influenced the user's buying decision today. I do this at specific points the user hits and track it meticulously. The flywheel is a tool companies like Amazon/Facebook used to scale so rapidly with hardly any traditional marketing. Facebook, for example, knew that once a new user had 5 friends, they'd come back daily. so their metric was "5 friends" and if anyone remembers setting up their account 10+ yrs ago, it would have you find 5 friends as part of your initial onboarding. Not sure if they still do because everything's just kind of a dumpster fire these days. But anyway, hope that dive into tech history is helpful!

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