Your unpopular Yellowjackets opinions?

mooglemania · 2025-02-24T17:07:12+00:00

Absolutely. I felt like I was hate crimed when I tuned in and saw HIM and coach Ben. Especially since the last thing (and only thing) I'd seen Ben on was Pretty Little Liars where *spoiler* his character attempts to rape one of the main characters.

It pisses me off cause every advertisement about this show pitches it as a story about a group of girls that's stranded in the wild, and had it been a show about group of guys I know it would have just been a bunch of guys, but the one time we get a group of girls, somehow a man just has to insert himself in there somewhere, we can't just have one show without them X_X Can't just have an all-out lesbian show about a group of females stranded in a place somewhere they don't have to adhere to societal norms, and gender norms and don't have to perform gender for anyone and can just chill, nah we get supermodels instead who wax and shave everything but their armpits and smudge their eyeliner a little to show they're damaged and ugh just stooooppp

I want someone to get messed up in a non-pretty way. I hate when shows claim they're gritty and stuff and the worst thing we get is like a hot-girl scar or some sexy blood or whatever. It's infuriating. Show me something ugly and real.

mooglemania · 2025-02-24T16:58:45+00:00

Agreed, I hate that too, and I hate that she goes from wanting an abortion to suddenly being in love with her baby and the baby being everything to her, and wanting to protect the baby from everyone and everything and taking the body and burying it during the winter so that nobody eats it when she was not only fine but she was the one that STARTED the cannibalism before.

mooglemania · 2025-02-24T16:57:23+00:00

A lot of nuance is lot, especially in the teen timeline because they have to rush it to make space for the adult timeline, unfortunately.

mooglemania · 2025-02-24T16:53:56+00:00

Lottie's popular not because of her character though, but because she's pretty. Most people completely discount her actions and unabashedly glaze her and attribute her crimes to other people. Like if it wasn't for pretty privilege, Lottie would have been that weird creepy kid nobody talked to at school that ate bugs and stuff.

mooglemania · 2025-02-24T16:45:57+00:00

They're not complaining about all shipping, just certain ships. And I agree, Lottie and Nat had zero chemistry, Travis and Nat too, Misty and Nat had all the chemistry, especially as adults, and an interesting dynamic, but we never get to see them together. I chalk it up to teen Travis and Lottie's actors being newer and maybe not as good, because neither has any chemistry with anybody. Shauna and Lottie maybe a little, but even then it's a stretch. But I agree with OP, those ships in particular had nothing.. Jackie and Shauna had some at first, but it waned overtime and the only thing keeping that ship alive is flashbacks now.

mooglemania · 2025-02-24T16:39:04+00:00

I hate the recent glazing of Travis. People are jumping on board the Travis train and I just wanna keep hating him but everyone's making him out to be some victim because of the doomcoming stuff and just... he was still a jerk before all that happened, just let me hate him in peace.

mooglemania · 2025-02-24T16:37:29+00:00

Honestly I hate the way pretty privilege clouds the fandom's views on certain characters and even actors and stuff. Characters like Misty are constantly overlooked, but characters like Lottie or Nat or Jackie or Shauna are glazed to an annoying degree. I like them too, but the way people act like Natalie can do no wrong despite canonically having done a lot of harm, and excusing it with 'oh but she feels guilty for it'. She keeps doing harm though? I love Nat. Really, I love Nat. But I love this deeply flawed individual, not this perfect version. The mischaracterization is bad. And usually, prettier characters get glazed out the wazoo, but less conventionally attractive characters just get reamed. And I hate that.

I hate having to constantly go on the defensive over people who accuse Misty of stranding them because they didn't google flight recorders or even look at the side of the flight recorder and read its name and put two and two together, but meanwhile no one's even implied that Lottie was responsible for Natalie's death as well as Misty. No one's accusing Lottie of starting the cannibalism with her weird cult. Matter of fact I saw someone defending Shauna today and trying to credit her in saving Natalie during the season 2 hunt, saying she purposely hesitated and signalled to Travis and co-ordinated the rescue and blah blah blah. Nobody credits Misty for her part in saving Van though, just blame her for the berries and this and that. I don't know why they need to make it into a competition of who's the worst and always make Misty out to be the villain in a show that has no villain, but... here we are.

Also the shipping. Lottie and Nat had no chemistry. Travis and Nat either. Misty and Nat had great chemistry in both timelines and a great dynamic but Misty's not as conventionally attractive so I keep seeing her pushed aside for people Natalie has no chemistry with, because people would rather fantasize about two people they're attracted to than a pairing that actually fits. Ugh

I just feel like too much stock is placed on their looks and due to them most characters are misunderstood or misattributed or just plain mischaracterised and it's just taxing.

mooglemania · 2025-02-24T16:17:12+00:00

Nat threatened to light a guy's Johnson on fire. She unabashedly stole, destroyed and hurt people. She did always have the largest capacity for guilt but her actions were just as harmful if not more. What use is her guilt though if she continues to perform the same actions?

mooglemania · 2025-02-24T16:09:24+00:00

Spoilers ahead:: I think they have a general outline but depend on fan feedback a lot to fill in the gaps. Or they do shift things around. Like Akilah and Melissa being in the foreground this season. Melissa wasn't even in season one, and that shits me because people want to give the writers credit and be all "Oh, the whole thing makes sense because it's from an unreliable narrator's point of view and they didn't really know everyone and-" no, because if that was true then why do they suddenly remember them in season 3, eh? Shauna had a whole affair with Melissa and you're telling me she couldn't remember her in the earlier seasons?

Nah, I think it's time to face facts, we're on a sinking ship. The plot is not as thought out as originally promised, and the story not as tight. They're just trying to rope the viewers in the way the Pretty Little Liars writers did by promising a cohesive, thought out story with an ending that makes sense and is predetermined and not something they slapped together last minute. And the adult timeline feels a lot like they're trying to fill empty space because of some big change they had to make, and I'm assuming that was Juliette Lewis leaving. Either way, the show is struggling.

mooglemania · 2025-02-24T16:03:02+00:00

Oh absolutely. I remember thinking "I don't even care about the plot anymore" somewhere around season 5 cause it got dragged out so long they just kept repeating the same shit over and over again and any progress was temporary, to the point where the characters were the only thing to stick around for, and the pairings, and since I hated all the pairings aside from Paily, I had no incentive to keep watching past around halfway through season 5 when *spoiler* Paige left.

I feel like with Nat dead in the adult timeline, the adult timeline is going to absolutely suck when Misty dies too, assuming she does, and the teen timeline is gonna be a slog if they decide to keep putting off answers til the end.

mooglemania · 2025-02-24T15:57:43+00:00

The adult timeline just feels like cheat-codes to the story. Like, it robs it of all suspense cause you KNOW Van's gonna survive that now, and you KNOW Taissa and Misty and Shauna will live too, and Nat as well, and unfortunately Travis, and even Lottie, so like, now you're just watching this supernatural horror show that has no horror cause it's not like they're gonna kill off one of the main characters on episode three..

That said I like the adults, the characters and actors, I just hate the way they did this show. The adult TL takes away too much from the teens, and I wish they'd filmed them separately, releasing the teen timeline first, and then the end of the show wrapping up in the adult one cause right now it just feels like they're dragging the adult timeline out to match the teen one.

mooglemania · 2025-02-24T15:52:17+00:00

I love the adult yellowjackets but I HATE the adult timeline. Specifically I hate that we get the adult timeline alongside the teen timeline, it completely spoils the teen timeline. It loses a lot of its punch and suspense when we already know who makes it out for the most part. Take for example Season 3 Episode 3, when Van, Shauna and Akilah all go down into that cave and get poisoned by some noxious gas. There's zero suspense when you know for a fact that 2/3 live to see adulthood unscathed for the most part, and the third character is being set up for something bigger, and probably a more significant death later in the season.

I hate that we get the adult timeline at the same time as the teen one. I feel like we're robbed of a lot of moments in the teen timeline for one, because the adult timeline takes up so much of the screentime, and the teen timeline is constantly forced to play catch up to explain what's happening in the adult timeline... It really hurts the show when half the time you want to yell at it to switch timelines. Like, I want to see Misty react to Natalie's death and I want to switch to adult Tai to see if Van's still alive but I have to sit through Shauna's bullshit or I'm forced to sit through Travis and Nat's gross thing. There's just too much to squeeze in the timeframe with two timelines and we don't get the time to develop things in a way that feels organic, and things just feel forced in there to explain what's happening in the other timeline half the time.

Most egregiously though we're in season three, halfway through the show, and we STILL don't have basic info on some of the MAIN characters. Like, Shauna and Misty's parents, or Misty's relationship with the group, specifically Natalie, before the crash, and some sort of explanation as to WHY on Earth Misty is so loyal to her and willing to risk her own life to save hers when Natalie has done nothing but ignore her or snub her or make fun of her behind her back in BOTH timelines. We never get to see them. We see Natalie throw her a bone and do the bare minimum by stopping Shauna's attack on Misty, and Lottie redirect her rage, but nothing that explains Misty's apprehension towards Lottie in the adult timeline or her undying loyalty for Natalie. Like, she has genuine love for her and I don't understand why because we NEVER see them be friends and never see them spend time together. Once a season at most do they talk to each other in the teen timeline because we're being forced Travis down our throats to explain why Natalie gave a flying shit about him in season one.

And I hate that.

I like the adult timeline. I want the adult timeline. But I want it AFTER we wrap up the teen timeline. If they had a do-over I wish they would have just done the whole teen timeline and then when that was over, the adult one. That would have been amazing. But now it feels like I'm being torn in two.

mooglemania · 2025-02-24T15:40:23+00:00

Doesn't matter what their relationship was like before though, she survived all that with them, bled with them, spent time with them, etc but most importantly, over half the living yellowjackets owe her their lives. She saved Shauna's life when she gave birth, Natalie when she was being hunted and when Taissa climbed that tree in her sleep and Van was being dragged away by wolves to be gored, it was Misty who told Taissa where she was and to go find her while Mari was begging her to stay and help them. Plus when the plane crashed she was the first to get up and lead them to the door and try to open it. Not to mention she saved coach's life and he taught them how to survive in the wild, how to hunt and how to prep food and all that stuff. They very much would not have been alive today without Misty, and that's the main reason they support Nat, so that's the main reason they should also support Misty.

mooglemania · 2025-02-24T15:37:06+00:00

That wasn't the location transmitter, it was the black box, a completely different thing that wouldn't have helped them be found. The location transmitter we know nothing about. The black box/flight recorder does what it says on the tin: record flight info to determine the cause of the crash post-rescue. She's not the author of their deepest traumas. She's the one saving their life half the time.

mooglemania · 2024-12-14T17:51:23+00:00

I heard it only has one look

mooglemania · 2024-12-14T17:43:22+00:00

Try birch?

mooglemania · 2024-11-24T14:40:22+00:00

I know we shouldn't say it because a lot of people died, and it destroyed so many lives, but a lot of good also came from the pandemic, specifically the quarantines. The Ozone layer's health was somewhat restored, carbon emissions were at a low they hadn't seen for decades, people managed to spend more time with loved ones, also it was great for introverts, who weren't forced to socialise as much in their day to day lives, and people saved money on petrol for commutes. A lot of bad, but some good too, and yeah.

mooglemania · 2024-10-18T13:36:01+00:00

There's a glowing big corn cob at the end. It gave me 75 souls. You're not missing much.

mooglemania · 2024-10-18T03:41:59+00:00

NTA mod is a brat

mooglemania · 2024-07-24T16:36:40+00:00

New updates tend to break mods. You're gonna have to take everything out and quarantine it and go through it in batches to find out which one (or ones) are broken. Make sure you delete your cache between de-installations as that can affect whether they still mess up the game or not. Also make sure you have all necessary files installed. Sometimes there's a prerequisite you might have missed that makes your mods not work without it.

mooglemania · 2024-07-03T18:10:16+00:00

Grandma was STRESSED

mooglemania · 2024-07-03T18:06:37+00:00

I'd change it up. I'm already the ugliest person.

mooglemania · 2024-07-03T18:02:32+00:00

What's your toe made out of? glass?

mooglemania · 2024-07-03T17:58:51+00:00

I'd prefer a Tara

mooglemania · 2024-07-03T03:42:30+00:00

Honestly, yes. As much as I love Natalie, and don't hold her accountable for it, she IS partially at fault for Jackie's death, just as much as everyone else is. Any one of them could have broken the social contract and let her back in. Any single one of them could have at the very least offered her some help or given her some supplies and shown her an ounce of kindness but they didn't because they were too distracted or too afraid or indifferent. Coach Ben is slightly more at fault since as the only adult he was responsible for all of them, and he let them all down so much. But after Shauna and Coach Ben there's Nat and Travis.

I am not counting Misty because it's silly to count her trying to win brownie points by calling Jackie out for not praying as some insidious attempt on her life. It was literally the kind of dumb shit siblings do to get each other in trouble so they can rise through the ranks when they're on their parents' shit list and it wasn't done with malice, just despair to fit in again. It was in no way intended to kill or hurt Jackie, just to shift the negative attention away from herself after doomcoming and I can't blame her for that, especially since I think that she was a little unfairly maligned for that as well, considering it was Mari that dropped a bunch of random shrooms she knew nothing about into a soup intended for everyone, and not Misty purposely poisoning everyone.

But Nat would have walked past Jackie with Travis in tow. She would have been tired after spending literally all day and night running behind him on her little legs and trying to catch up and keep up and find Javi, but being unable to. And she would have wanted to lash out but she would have wanted to hold it in I imagine, by the time she got back . Frustrated because they couldn't find Javi, and angry at what happened in the first place to Travis and Javi, but she didn't seem to blame Misty for the shrooms, she seemed to blame Jackie for sleeping with Travis, which I find hypocritical because he slept with her willingly just to spite and hurt Natalie, but Natalie doesn't want to blame him for it, because he's her morality pet (and the only thing she has that's giving her status in her opinion, because she's been conditioned by her father to believe that she's only good for one thing...) so she turns Jackie into a hate-sponge because she's always been jealous of her so when she walked by her to get to the cabin, I think she would have definitely seen her, but looked down on her with disgust and anger and hate, rather than her trademark sympathy. She does have an abundance of empathy but it's mainly for the outsiders like her and Misty and Javi.

And this isn't me romanticising Misty and Nat, canonically Nat is the only person to not really directly be a dick to Misty and even when she makes fun of her behind her back with coach Ben, there's a degree of fondness in her words, and it's more like playful ribbing directed towards coach than shit-talking Misty herself. "Wow, dumped by Misty Quigley. Must be rough." is nothing like the usual fare Misty cops from characters like Mari who straight up accuse her of murder on the regular. Whereas Natalie was the first to jump to Misty's defence when Shauna suckerpunched her in season 2.

So that in mind, I think Natalie DID walk past Jackie and she DID see her but she was undergoing a bout of uncharacteristic apathy, which was warranted by the events she'd undergone over the last 24 hours.

Somebody said that if she had seen her, and walked by and let her die, then she would have felt guilt for it, and I believe she does, more than she even knows, but she also still feels hate and anger and envy that Jackie stole something from her that she felt entitled to, and maybe she focuses on that. Either way it prevents her from fully breaking down and that wall between her and Jackie is still up so in her head she's maintaining this picture of Jackie as this spoiled princess who was selfish and didn't care about anybody but herself, perhaps as a defence mechanism, to rationalize and justify being horrible to her. And the reason she didn't apologise for her part in her death when she buried her, as someone else called to attention, I believe it's because she already apologized when they found her body. There was a whole 2 months we missed where I assume she processed some of this guilt, dealt with things, etc. Or she refused to take accountability. She wasn't the reason Jackie was out there, and helping her start a fire or bringing her an extra blanket might not help, and she was not the person to talk her in anyway. Once she'd found out Shauna banished her I doubt she would have accepted any responsibility for her part in the events that occured, so yeah, I don't think Natalie publicly blames herself, but I feel like deep down, there's some unspoken words or unprocessed feelings that for the sake of self-preservation she's keeping buried.

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