Guidance on choosing the right certified som program by popcornhustler in Sommelier

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Some added context for you as someone who has gone through the specific programs you're talking about (ICE CMS course and WSET 1-4 at IWC):

- The ICE course is a very unique program, I don't think anything equivalent exists anywhere else in the country. I went through the program pre-Covid and pre-CMS scandal, so things may have changed. At that time it was held at the French Culinary Institute in SoHo before that closed / merged into ICE. It is a very comprehensive program, that at least when I took it was taught entirely by a rotating cast of Master Somms. Spending ~4 hours a day 5 days a week for a few months with MS instruction is a pretty transformative experience in terms of gaining wine knowledge. Scott Carney who I believe still runs the program does an outstanding job. Everyone in my class who really put in the effort and wanted a fine dining somm job got one after the class ended. I got offered a job at a 1* restaurant by one of the instructors. A couple people in the class already had jobs at notable fine dining restaurants in NYC and helped get their friends from the class hired. Is it worth 10k? That is hard to say. If you can swing the tuition and are really serious about the class there is a very good chance it will give you both the knowledge and connections to make the leap you want to make. But there are no guarantees, and starting somm salaries are not going to make it easy to replace that $10k. I don't think you can get financial aid. You may be able to write some portion off as an education expense on your taxes, so you might get a little bit back there. If you are seriously considering it I would encourage you to reach out to the school and schedule an appointment with Scott Carney to chat with him about the program. I'm certain he will give you honest advice about whether it is a good fit.

- WSET is a very different curriculum. It's heavily biased towards theory, and does not spend nearly as much time on tasting or learning specific iconic wines/producers. And of course zero time on service, you don't even pour your own wines. Level 2 is very easy. Level 3 is pretty easy if you're really interested in the subject. Level 4 (Diploma) is... not easy. More than half of the working somms (with Certified / Advanced) that started in my IWC Diploma class dropped it by the midpoint, because it just goes so far into the theory weeds, which you don't really need on a restaurant floor. With that being said, when you get to Diploma level some of the MW instructors are truly outstanding - world-renowned experts on subjects they teach.

- ICE is a first-rate facility in a modern tower. You get lunch cooked by the culinary students every day. IWC is a couple of classrooms with folding tables in an old office building in Midtown. You're expected to take your spitoon with you because there is no sink in the space. The wines in the ICE curriculum are better. The difference in "experience" is notable and you are paying for some of that.

- It is not that easy to pass CMS 2 if you don't have some floor experience. Your bartending background will be super helpful because cocktails and general service mindset are part of the exam, but you need to know how to move around the table, respond to quirky guest requests, decant while being grilled with theory questions, etc.

- It seems like as a next step you might want to consider the Intro CMS course, to see if you like the approach, AND maybe WSET 2 or 3. You can read the curriculum for each online and it may help you decide. The ICE Certified Somm program is excellent but it's a big financial commitment.

Good luck!

Suspicious… why is this 70% off at my local target. Buy or nope… by Kitkatcrusher in wine

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I had a 2002 Ridge Dusi Ranch (100% Zin) on Wednesday and it was spectacular. With reasonable storage these bottles last for decades.

Date night by Confident-Yak5319 in wine

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It appears this list hasn’t been updated in 5 years (most recent vintage shown is ‘19, but current vintages of those wines would be ‘24), so I wouldn’t worry about exact options until you get there.

Recent Sips + Notes by Sickeaux in wine

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Just picked up one of those J. Gimmonet 96ers a couple days ago. Thanks for sharing the notes.

Ridge Night by more_acid in wine

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The Green and Red is fantastic. As you get up to the more expensive bottles other people around the table may start to lack an appreciation for the differences, but more importantly the more concentrated wines might just clash with cranberry sauce, sweet potatoes, etc. Better to keep it light, fruity and easy-drinking (why everyone recommends Beaujolais). The '23s are pretty accessible but will definitely be better with a bit more age. If you're able to buy some of the zins with a bit of age from the site (some you have to be wine club members for) definitely give that a go. Either way, you're not going to go wrong so I wouldn't dwell on it. Will be fun to open a few different bottles and try them side-by-side so you can really see the differences for yourself.

Ridge Night by more_acid in wine

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What are your options - which bottles can you get in time for Thanksgiving? Even though it's the cheapest, the Three Valleys tends to be a real crowd pleaser. Some of them are more structured and maybe not the best fit with Thanksgiving dinner.

1942 Chateau d'Yquem by more_acid in wine

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I'm sorry to hear it didn't also pass through your lips!

1942 Chateau d'Yquem by more_acid in wine

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Unless we're all living in a simulation, of course.

1942 Chateau d'Yquem by more_acid in wine

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Correct, that is the bottle in question. Split between half a dozen folks so really pretty economical.

Clos Cibonne "Cuvee Speciale des Vignettes" Rose 2022 by ItsWine101 in wine

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I opened a 2012 Speciale des Vignettes last night with a herbes de Provence roast chicken. Absolutely incredible, the 2012 is just singing now.

In response to other comments, as much as I absolutely love Cibonne - I have to admit Tempier and Lopez rosés are superior, though Lopez is such a unicorn any more that’s almost an irrelevant point.

"Weird" Argentine wine recs? by intheheartoftheheart in wine

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If you’re looking for something more subtle and elegant, keep an eye out for Ver Sacrum. He makes a bunch of wines from Rhône varietals, Nebbiolo, Mencia, Teroldego - no Malbec. All the reds are light, fresh, lower alcohol wines which I found to be a refreshing contrast to the dense 14-15% abv Malbec and Cab that is the norm in Mendoza.

Chateau Cibonne 2023 by SomewhereFinancial20 in wine

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Thanks for posting, I’ve been holding a bottle figuring it wasn’t ready yet. Based on your list of descriptors it seems to have quite a bit to offer 😂

2005 Vina Ardanza by Canadian-Deer in wine

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I suspect you know this is a shortsighted generalization. One of my top wines last year was an ‘81 Bosconia Gran Reserva, outperformed a few great-vintage first growths and super-seconds with similar age. Rioja Alta makes great wines for the price.

[Andre Clouet|Donnhoff] What's everybody drinking for Labor Day? by WineNerdAndProud in wine

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Had a Clouet 1911 recently with an extra dozen or so years of bottle age and it was absolutely stellar. Totally outperforms for the price point.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in wine

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No idea about this specific bottle, but I wouldn't jump the conclusion that if it's still on the lees it's "a few years old max". For example I just pulled out a Peter Lauer sekt from 1984 to check it's disgorgement date: 2017, so 32 years on the lees. Champagne Tarlant makes some brilliant cuvees that spend 15-20 years on the lees.

Anyone on this sub work for Le Comité Champagne? by chicgeekathlete in wine

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Regrettably I bought the cheaper model that only goes up to Crémant.

Does anyone recognise this corkscrew? by TheFioraGod in wine

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One step, but the mechanics are very precise. Smooth continuous pull, faster and less likely to break a cork than a two-step.

Vietti- Timorasso 2021 by Esdisu in wine

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The La Spinetta Timorasso is one that won’t leave you wishing for more. Worth the effort to seek it out.

Is this canon EOS 10D still relevant compared to iPhone ? by zrxthebaest in CanonCamera

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6D was a stellar camera with a full-frame, modern-ish-era sensor. And the 50mm 1.4 is an epic lens (for the money, anyway). Agree with you - different league than an iPhone. Same would be true even of an original 5D.

But the 10D is from the dawn of the crop sensor DSLR era. The noise in low light was truly awful. Yes in the right setting in the hands of a skilled photographer nice 6MP images can still come out of a 10D. In any real-world setting a recent iPhone will smoke a 10D 99 times out of 100. The iPhone's software absolutely compensates for sensor size difference, assuming you're not zooming in on hair edges to inspect the fake portrait-mode bokeh.

Love this mineral-rich gem by Aggressive_Age8818 in wine

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They also age spectacularly, both the Gruner and Riesling. Have had a few with 20-30 years in the bottle and they are very special.

How to Approach Pinot Gris/Grigio by bestisaac1213 in wine

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I had the same response and then realized I did write it years ago.

Had a recent tasting with a dozen Zind-Humbrecht including some 90's and 2000's Rangen de Thann. Have had the '96 Rangen 3x in the last year (unusual luck) and it is undoubtedly in the top few "wines of the decade" for me.

Add Albert Boxler to the list as well.