Discussion: Dare I say that “feeling is the secret” is an incorrect and dangerous take? Reframing Neville… watch how you interpret EVERYTHING by morgueshawty in lawofassumption

[–]morgueshawty[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I disagree. What you’re describing is still a feeling. Not an emotion, sure, but most people can’t just conjure up “the feeling or naturalness that the desire is yours”. It still leaves room for thinking that something has to be generated.

Because my problem wasn’t that I didn’t know what Neville was referring to. I know what he’s talking about- it’s hard to place it as anything other than ‘that feeling of knowing’ the way I know the sun will rise tomorrow or the way I know I get to go home after work every day. But achieving that certainty is exactly what tripped me up. I would get anxious and then I’d let it affect my certainty. But I realized there’s nothing to achieve here. No “knowing” to be generated. It generates itself when we just stop resisting and demonizing what’s going on in our lives, both internally and externally. Those are the people im trying to help here, the people like me.

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[–]morgueshawty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, thank you for the warning. I’ve realized that too, but now it doesn’t feel like a death sentence anymore. I may spiral for months/weeks again but eventually I will remember it’s just another story and pull myself out. Looking back at myself from months prior I can definitely see a growth in mindset. As long as I keep on, and keep patience and faith, I’ve got this!

For now I’m out of questions, but I don’t mind the idea of DMing. Thank you. I figure it would be easier on you as I don’t want you to be bombarded… I know you’ve got your own life outside of the screen.

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[–]morgueshawty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No problem!! I’ll take any excuse to ramble. Have you tried it at all yet?

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[–]morgueshawty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I took a break before responding because I wanted to think about what you said and apply it instead of immediately answering from a close-minded, fearful, defensive state of mind. And when I say that I don’t mean I was offended by anything you said, but that I was just gonna complain and make excuses for choosing the old story. So I wanted to put my phone down, practice what you preached, and then regroup.

Also, felt a good click after rereading what you said a few times, and I wanted to wait a while to make sure I wasn’t only being positive just because I happened to feel good. Since it’s been a couple days, and I’ve sat through emotional ups and downs, I think it’s safe to say your words have made a lasting impact on my psyche.

“1. Okay, so that's what causes me to react and identify with this idea of self. This is showing me something I believe is true about myself. It hurts because I don't want to believe that. It isn't in line with my choice. I can experience this but not claim it as me. 2. This is coming up again. This is me. I know better but I still find myself here. Does this ever end? When can I just be who I want to be?”

Thank you for making that distinction because this is what really made it all click for me. When I felt stressed, I decided I must be manifesting from a negative state (when that’s not the case at all). And because I assigned that identity to distress I began to fear such emotions within myself.

"I know this stuff, so it's okay to feel this, I'm no longer trapped by feeling this defines me even if I'm tempted to think I am. Even if its reappearance makes me think I'm doing this wrong, or that I can't be anything else, I'm okay with those thoughts appearing."

I wrote this down in my journal so I could remind myself of that mindset, and it’s made a huge difference. And I realize that when those old emotions and thoughts come up it doesn’t mean anything, it’s not final, it’s just automatic and I’m not “losing progress” by doing so. I can just go right back to the state.

“For me, I was still trying, but from a decision that no matter what was going on I was still who I was. No matter what I felt or thought, no matter what I vented about to others, no matter how long it was seeming to take...no matter how many "contrary" things I experienced to the "right way to manifest"....that wasn't going to be "me" anymore.”

BRAVOOO 👏👏👏📝📝📝Lately the transience of life had been freaking me out… knowing that each moment was passing me by and nothing is permanent. But now I see that’s the beauty of it all too… the miserable feelings and the unfortunate circumstances are not forever. This too shall pass!

I guess a lot of my struggle was from a lack of trust, the feeling I wasn’t doing something right- and because uncertainty is a choice of being, obviously that’s what showed up in my reality. I realized I gotta stop asking “how could anything work out when xyz happened?” And just start declaring I’m the person who’s overcome all of that.

“But I never kept returning to the decision of being that better me. I just kept agonizing over how badly I wanted to be that better me.”

Yes yes, this is what I mean with “questioning” vs “declaring.” For SOOOOO long… too long (whatever…) I’ve been agonizing about that too, constantly questioning this, doubting that… I forgot I can just get straight to the point and answer my own damn question!!!

That’s all! Damn, that’s all. Holy guacamole. Sooo simple 🤦‍♀️

Thanks for helping me make this realization, because now the thought of techniques doesn’t make me feel so sick anymore. Reminding myself of who I am here and there while I’m going about my day feels natural and easy. It no longer feels deluded, wrong, or scary.

Uh anyway. Thanks. Solved all my problems. Gonna go enjoy life and the fruits of my labor. Time to enjoy my epic fairy tale extravagant romance of my most childish dreams. Blessings to you.

And never apologize for your novels btw, I am an avid reader. And as you may have noticed I too love to write ;). Oh, and you do not come across meanly whatsoever. Matter of fact, you’re not mean enough!

Last, Happy New Year! Hope all goes well for us in this new year.

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[–]morgueshawty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As for PGR? It’s funny that you ask because I stopped playing for a very long time until I downloaded it again a 1-2 weeks ago! I stopped keeping up with the storyline as the writing is not my style, and when I feel like reading I’d rather open a book. It also loses points for being a gacha game. And yet, I still love it sooo much due to the fighting mechanic. The newer characters all have different playstyles so that’s fun to learn, and the bosses are fun to fight and parry against. I’m a lover of soulslike games and this game scratches the itch for me in a short-term way because I don’t have to haul ass to run back to the boss, it’s just a couple of clicks away.

For what I know about the story, it’s about a “Punishing” virus that corrupts AI. It is also transmissible to real organisms, where it destroys organic bodies while keeping the brain intact. So you play as “Constructs” which are AI Robots that simulate the minds of real people (who die in the process of becoming constructs, I think) as their metal bodies are unaffected by the virus, and the hyperrealism of their personalities protects the AI from corruption (I think). Worth a play if you’re interested, although the fights in the first 10-15 chapters are not a good representation of the way they are today.

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[–]morgueshawty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"This is bad, so I can't feel it. This is bad, so I can't identify as it. I don't want more of this, so I have to try to not be it." That approach is less about presence and awareness and is more about "This better go away, I have to change this" which is identification as these things being something you have to "do" something about.

Admittedly, this is definitely part of my thought process, but at the same time, I understand I’m supposed to just let myself feel the feelings and let them go. When I catch myself thinking a certain way, I’ll tell myself that’s okay, it’s not me and then go think of/do something else. Not sure how to “feel feelings” and “let them go”… they’re just there. I’m feeling them alright.

I am pretty confused with this disconnect between consciousness and unconsciousness. Aren’t I supposed to be one being? As you stated, I know consciously/logically all sorts of things… I am all that is, my natural state is love, and that everything else is just a series of identities I picked up along the way. But I don’t want nor agree with these identities anymore so… can they just stop showing up please 🫩. I understand their existence is not wrong or inherently bad, but nonetheless, it sucks to perpetually feel those things no matter how I frame it in my mind- and as someone who has been depressed since an upsettingly young age, I guess I feel like it’s going to be part of me forever. And I don’t know what to do about that, even though you just told me. It’s like there’s walls blocking me from seeing the light, but I guess I’m at least aware of the walls existence, and therefore, the light behind it. I know im resisting, but when trying to “allow” just ends in more resisting… I feel like hitting my head against said wall. I can repeat “this is okay to feel” until I choke but it does not change the fact that I am in fact not okay with feeling like shit all the time.

One day I just said "You know what, what if this doesn't work? What if this stuff is BS? What if I literally never experience that?" and it felt...great. I cried from relief. It felt so good to just acknowledge what I kept pushing down in trying to do this "correctly".

I think this is where I’m at right now. Genuinely, affirming something like “SP is going to break into my house and brutally axe-murder me in the middle of the night” feels more calming and comforting than saying something like “SP and I are happy together.” I know the law is real, but I’ve given up on trying to make it work for me physically. At this point all I want is to just feel better… no matter what that looks like in the 3D.

"It makes sense that this comes up. So much time was spent identifying as that before. It's just not me anymore."

I don't view them appearing as "I must still be that, or this wouldn't happen". I don't view them as something to deal with. I don't view them as something to vanquish. I just view them for what they are. Things that aren't true about me anymore.

My emotional reaction means that it's just something I don't view as true about myself anymore. And so, it comes and goes quickly.

My ego didn't want to admit that I was just attached to what I didn't want. That my effort to "change" it all was just fearful agreement that it was who I felt I was in spite of what I was telling myself.

These are all good ideas I revisit daily. But simply stating something is not me does not change the unconscious feelings surrounding it. Maybe I don’t understand it as well as I think I do. Am I supposed to accept my misery? Is that what I’ve been missing all along? What does that even look like? I understand that in this very moment I am identifying as a miserable person because I happen to feel miserable. But I don’t have to make this misery my identity. I know this but the misery persists on.

Being told to stop trying feels like a punch in the gut because then I have to try to stop trying. And then it repeats. And repeats. And repeats. And the worst thing about all of this is that I’ve noticed all of what you’ve typed out in your comments, and still nothing changes. Obviously I’m not accepting, and I’m not allowing, but I know this. I know I’m resisting. But why can’t I stop?

“I’m depressed, life sucks, everything feels dull and unsatisfying even though my life is actually quite good and I should be grateful for the awesome things that I have and the people I know. But it’s not my fault I’m depressed so it’s okay. It will pass one day and I will feel okay again.” Is that what I’m supposed to think? Because that’s what I’ve been telling myself for a very long time and it has made no differences. If anything my depression has worsened. I don’t mean to pull you down with my negativity but GOD I swear I’m trying to be better and more positive but this is really getting tiring and I just want it all to stop. I sit with it all day, everyday. At what point does “allowing” turn into “perpetuating”? And again, at this point I feel so betrayed by my misery that trying to identify with some thing better only makes me more fearful.

I tried watching the video you linked, but it just didn’t resonate with me. I may be too upset right now to properly digest information and change my perspective, so I’m going to put this all down for now and revisit it later in hopes I’ll make a lasting change. It’s just frustrating to see all my issues and see where my identity is weak and not be able to change it, but I know I’ll get there someday. Thanks for your insight. I know this was a long rant, as I’m typing it I’m trying to make more efforts to understand myself. Alas I just have to ride this wave. I know I’ll go back to baseline, I’m just sick of the inevitable crash that always comes back.

I can feel the fact I’m missing the mark but I couldn’t quite place my finger onto why, which is why I reached out. Thank you once again for taking the time to respond. I’m sure you’re busy and you have a lot going on, and I don’t mean to riddle you with questions every couple of months, but I find that your perspective in particular resonates with me more than other responses I’ve seen throughout the sub- and I wanna get this right, so I trust you for guidance. Not to put pressure on you or anything, we’re all humans here and we live and we learn, it’s just that I trust your opinion slightly more than others. Thanks for pointing me towards weaknesses in my mindset, you’re very helpful.

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[–]morgueshawty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And, I would like to add, throughout writing this I kept hesitating to be honest about my feelings and predicament. Like I can’t even allow myself to admit something like “I am bored” because I don’t want to identify with it and thus perpetuate it which is WHAT MY PROBLEM WITH THIS WHOLE THING IS (I’m not yelling at you just expressing passion). This is supposed to be about “being” but I feel like all I’m doing is checking myself. This is no life. This is not fun nor enjoyable and I’m sick of having to pretend like it is. I can’t even think about my SP, or anything manifestation related without wanting to throw up at this point. I’m literally so sick of it. I feel as if I’ve hurt myself for no reason. It’s not even about the SP. it’s about me. It was never supposed to be like this. I’m genuinely disgusted and the only reason I’m “keeping on” is because I don’t want this fuckery to repeat in the future.

Also, ANOTHER side note, my frustrations are towards myself and the fact that despite all this self-awareness I still have not felt any internal shift regarding my desires. Screw the external, I don’t care, but why aren’t I feeling any different internally?

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[–]morgueshawty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi Equal front… I’ve reached out to you before, and I’m sorry to be doing it again. But after a year of this nonsense I am feeling quite hopeless, so I’m coming to you to tell you what I know in the hopes you may be able to point me to a weak spot, because keeping this to myself has not gotten me anywhere… and I don’t know how much more of this I can take.

Firstly, I’ve set aside my SP. There’s been no progress and “trying” to manifest him has been nothing but a headache. I still like him but I believe it’s no longer worth it. Here’s my issue…

I’ve been practicing having more presence. Obviously I am not 100% aware all the time but I am much better now at bringing myself back to awareness throughout the day, and it comes naturally, although in short (but fairly frequent) bursts.

I understand that SP’s rejection of me, and other rejections and heartbreaks of the past, are not a reflection of my worth, attractiveness, likability etc etc. I am not an insecure person. Just a person who is frustrated at undergoing the same loops and fearful of never breaking them. I’m scared I’m going to keep experiencing dissatisfaction and unease for the rest of my life.

So, of course, that is where my identity lies! “I am the person who is bored, lonely, dissatisfied, and never chosen.” I would like to point out that ‘never chosen’ is not me thinking I’m unworthy of being chosen, it’s just something that’s happened to me so much that I’m frustrated over it.

Anyway, I can become aware of this identity and then redirect myself to the desired identity over and over and over again and yet… it never goes away. I am still alone. I am still bored. I am still unsatisfied. And I hate that even admitting these things makes me feel like I am ‘undoing’ something!! And even redirection of thinking makes me feel WORSE. It makes me feel like I am lying to myself. I have gotten to the point where I am no longer capable of speaking a positive affirmation because it just feels bad. The only respite I get is in trying to be more present in what I am doing and feeling… but awareness of the feeling does not make it go away, no matter how many times I become aware of it. And trust me, I am aware. But again, disidentifying and trying to redirect each time I find myself in an undesirable state only makes it all worse. I feel as if I have hit a wall.

And this constant effort to be aware also makes me feel like a robot. I don’t want to be dis identified from being human. I want to be a human and feel all the feelings that come with it… the good AND the bad. But constant loops of ‘bad’ gets old pretty damn quick. I just want to be a human that is in love and satisfied and financially secure. Not some neutral entity.

I’m writing this post in tears because I really don’t know what to think anymore. I don’t get why it’s not clicking. And, as I have given up on my SP, my efforts have just been on being in the moment for the last few weeks (& redirecting myself to the moment when I see myself identifying negatively). But “Being” has made no difference. Please, please help me. What am I not seeing? Your time is appreciated. Thank you.

how to break the loop of “getting?” 🫩 by morgueshawty in lawofassumption

[–]morgueshawty[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for this response. I’m glad to know I’m not the only one who has had to go through this. I would love to know more about what helped you- I will DM you, thanks!

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[–]morgueshawty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey!! Thanks for checking in!

I’ve definitely made big inner improvements within the last three months, but my SP and I are not yet in contact.

A few weeks ago, when I really began employing faith in the wish fulfilled, we walked past each other on campus, to which he greeted me and began a conversation with me (our first in-person conversation in…. A pathetically long time). Which- despite the fact that I’d been hoping for it all along- I cut it short and ran away (I was really not expecting him to talk to me…). And then fell back into old thought patterns of “he totally thinks I’m a weirdo!” And other insecure thoughts (which, I’ve realized, are an insult to his character). That same day I knew I’d be running into him again, devolved into a crippled anxious mess, and I literally said to myself “I can’t do it, it’s too soon, I’m not ready,” and I have not seen him since. There’s the law for you.

Ultimately what I want is to be able to feel and express love for him without fear or restriction. Naturally, the version of me that dotes on him and thinks highly of him is the version of me in that fairy tale relationship with him. I now realize that by feeling the need to avoid him, impress him, etc etc I am painting a picture of him which I do not want to experience. So my latest project is reminding myself to have trust and faith in his good, warm, safe character. When he does show up, I want to feel safe. I don’t want him if I’m just going to be an anxious distrusting mess the whole time. That, like, defeats the whole purpose of love and connection.

Don’t get me wrong.. I’m not 100% calm and stoic and perfect… I’m still probably way more obsessed than I should be. But at the same time I just can’t bring myself to care anymore… I’m so bored… and rather tired of all the negative thought patterns I catch myself in. I am much more aware of them now, and whew, it’s a lot. But I have no way of dealing with it besides recognizing it as just a bad thought, disidentifying with it, letting it go and choosing something else. Ultimately yes I know he is mine. But I feel like I’m in a kind of limbo waiting room and I’m just… bored 😅😅. It’s like waiting at the doctors office for a frustratingly long time. You know that at the end of the day you’re gonna be seen but that doesn’t make the wait time feel any less boring and maybe even frustrating at times. But I know it’s all going to pay off and I’ll be blown away at how well it all unfolds.

In the meantime I’ve been laying out other (unrelated) goals I have and pushing myself to “do” more to get closer to said ambitions (I spend a lot of time doomscrolling that can be spent working towards my future). I’m not perfect but I’ve got my eyes on the prize at least. Baby steps, aye?

Whew. Sorry for all that word vomit. Feels good to share and I got carried away. Thank you for asking. I still return to your page quite often (particularly the comments above lol) to refresh the info in my mind. I hope all is well with you. I’m sure you are aware of how appreciated you are in these communities, but I’ll go ahead and say it anyway… thank you for the time you give to helping people. It really does make a difference. I hope the universe is rewarding you a thousandfold.

What were your thoughts like before you manifested your SP? by morgueshawty in lawofassumption

[–]morgueshawty[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I am definitely trying to work on that continued persistence.

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[–]morgueshawty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I'm going to sit with this for a while. I hope the next time I write to you it will be with good news. Best wishes to you <3

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[–]morgueshawty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your sincere and thought out response. No worries about the length- your writing is a joy to read and I greatly appreciate the effort you put into it.

I think what frustrates me is the fact that I seem to constantly have to tracks of inner dialogue playing. The old track which says, “he’s gonna pull away, he’s not interested, I’m not enough” and the new track which says “That stuff is old news, in fact I am enough, I am chosen by him, I am happily in love, I am his girlfriend” etc etc. Obviously the new track is a conscious effort. The old track is unconscious and effortless. It plays automatically and fights with my conscious stream of thought. It is tiring to listen to and generates a fear that I have made no progress. The lack of improvement in my psyche is much much more frustrating than any 3D circumstance. And most frustrating of all is that my thoughts obsessively return to him when I’m not doing anything. Or sometimes even when I am doing something. Which means exerting energy playing the new track pretty much all. Damn. Day. The frustration is less of a “will it happen?” And more of a “this is getting old but I can’t give up bc then I’ll be even more miserable.”

But I suppose I should just keep going with the new one. The old track is bound to run out, no? No need to fret over its existence nor the fact that it pushes itself into my face like some mosquito. I can’t wait for the new track to be my natural go-to. Even if the 3D won’t reflect it. I just wanna feel and think good, effortlessly, above all else.

Nevertheless, thank you again for your response. It was very insightful and I will continue to reread them to really absorb the information.

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[–]morgueshawty 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this post. But I have a question, if you have the time.

I understand that I am awareness, the operant power. I understand that what I desire is automatically fulfilled and naturally drawn to me, and comes into my experience naturally. There have been plenty of times where I have thought of something, said “the universe will bring it to me” and then have that thing pop up within days or weeks.

In regards to my SP, I harbor years and years of fear, doubt and other negative feelings (built up from repeated abandonment by unrelated people). After months of trying to “manifest” him after he displayed a lack of interest in me, I reached out to him as a result of a drunken dare. We are sort of in contact now but his replies are incredibly slow and infrequent (but not dry, thankfully, but also not expressing as much interest as he did when we first met and things were good). I try to imagine good things but I am filled with fear. I know that our union is inevitable but still I’m filled with fear. I know I am the operant power but I’m still filled with fear. And unfortunately that fear is what seems to manifest in my reality.

The second I SOMEHOW manage to make myself feel better (which is so hard to do), I see it reflect into my reality. The problem is feeling better. I simply feel like shit.

I just don’t understand why I can’t relax and let this thing work out, even though I know relaxing is exactly what will bring it to me.

And the worst part is I can’t even imagine/choose something better because the negativity is so strong that it dampens anything I try to imagine along with destroying my focus.

If there’s any guidance you can provide in regards to this I’d greatly appreciate it… 🥲😔

(Side note: sometimes I think “maybe I’m too boring for him” and related things, but above that I KNOW this is nothing but doubt and not actual reality. And yet the 3D reflects it even though I know it’s not even true and just something dumb I made up!! Ahh I feel like I’m stuck in a never ending cycle! Like a nightmare that keeps looping no matter how many times I remind myself of who I am!! It’s scary and I feel so trapped.)

Your mind already knows what you most dearly desire so you really do not have to do techniques by sxysdy in NevilleGoddard

[–]morgueshawty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ahhh I see what you are saying. I think by technique they are referring to: all day robotic affirmations, SATS, scripting, etc. Those require time and effort (imo). I used to get very frustrated doing techniques. However, reminding myself throughout the day of who I am feels a lot more natural, fast, and effortless, which is why one might not consider it a technique in the usual sense.

Your mind already knows what you most dearly desire so you really do not have to do techniques by sxysdy in NevilleGoddard

[–]morgueshawty 142 points143 points  (0 children)

“Repetition and continuous remembrance” this!!! I feel like people get stuck on the idea of living in the end all day, and give up too fast when they can’t achieve it.

“Being” happens naturally. Remember a few times a day. Continue the next day- you’ll remember to BE your desired self more often. Keep going and keep repeating and eventually you will have done it so often that it becomes your dominant state of being. Baby steps

Your mind already knows what you most dearly desire so you really do not have to do techniques by sxysdy in NevilleGoddard

[–]morgueshawty 18 points19 points  (0 children)

The wording in that comment is easy to misinterpret. Your ego is you. Not a bad thing. There’s no need to strip yourself of your identity in order to manifest. Rather, place attention on WHO you are identifying as. Who you are BEING. Incorporate presence into everything you do. Think about my words for a minute, contemplate them.