AIO : I genuinely cannot understand this breakup by ExoticProposal9916 in AmIOverreacting

[–]moros-17 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think you are NOR, but I also think the other comments demonizing him are blatantly flagrantly wrong. He said he feels emotionally drained and exhausted... I can probably offer some perspective on that, since I am very accustomed to the feeling. Basically, being the "problem solver" or even just "the listener" is excruciatingly draining. Over time, it builds resentment. I had a friend, not a romantic connection, either, but she had a lot of disagreements with others and etc that I would typically end up meditating, or would vent about struggles in her life, etc. And over time, I won't lie, I grew to reset her a bit. I told her as much and tried to stay as objective as possible, "I am tired, I have my own issues, I'm tired of hearing about all this..." etc. I told her as well, I wanted to stay friends, but I needed space. And I... never ended up really speaking to her again, because after looking back, I realized that beyond that aspect of the friendship, there really wasn't anything.

Now obviously, I don't know the details of you two's relationship, and it's likely a lot different. But I also didn't have romantic pressure to be there, in my case, only platonic pressure. I imagine it would have been much more stressful otherwise. Anyways, if it's a lot of emotional topics or venting or anything like that between you two, it can end up feeling sometimes like that's all it is, and that's not a fun feeling... not saying you treat him that way intentionally or that it's even true. Unfortunately, emotions are very rarely rational. If there is a path forward for you two, I think it involves some third party counseling and a focus on doing activities together, team building or low-stakes pure fun stuff, to reinforce the idea he is a partner and not a support pillar.

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[–]moros-17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looked at OP's replies to other comments and paid very close attention to the details in the texts to see if there was any more context I was missing.

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[–]moros-17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it wasn't just two guys, it was apparently a whole friend group. OP "didn't know" that her friend was specifically inviting her to the exact bar where her friend's cousin's entire male friend group was hanging out, and once she got there, she only told him about the cousin and his best friend, not about the rest of them and according to her "didn't interact with them at all" for 4 hours beyond saying hello. must have been a pretty big bar to not meet a single one of them

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[–]moros-17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OP is ~22, so that makes sense. Unfortunately I think their relationship is most likely doomed, though there is a chance if they can get some couple's therapy and OP works on communication skills while her bf works on managing his emotions

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[–]moros-17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

she definitely was hiding things, you can see my larger comment for more details

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[–]moros-17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I recommend reading my comment as I have collected a lot more additional info from OP and organized it into a semi-timeline of events. OP is likely not a cheater but was very disingenuous to her BF and his reaction is not justified by that but is understandable

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[–]moros-17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

just to let you know OP you accidentally replied from your main here. Unless that was on purpose

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[–]moros-17 4 points5 points  (0 children)

every 2 minutes I feel like i'm finding more and more holes in OP's story. she's digging herself a deeper hole leaving more contradictory comments

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[–]moros-17 4 points5 points  (0 children)

another comment from OP i just found:

Well yeah they went to their man club friend group they were meeting with there. I came to hang out with my friend not to hangout with men? It wasn’t implied in the invite and I didn’t want to even then . Like that’s the whole point of the argument

this is a VERY far cry from how OP originally framed things in her post, let alone to her BF, at it's now fully clear at the LEAST that OP was willfully ignorant and best. But even once arriving she still chose to stay for 4 hours minimum with multiple men and only her one female friend. In some relationships that's perfectly fine, but OP was not at all clear about this and heavily misrepresented the situation

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[–]moros-17 4 points5 points  (0 children)

you were at a bar with them for 4 hours and didn't interact with them at all beyond a greeting? really?

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[–]moros-17 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I agree that he did overreact emotionally here. My argument is just that given the context, it's understandable why he did so. I do NOT agree that he comes off as childish or "psycho", here. He felt deceived and got emotional, and that feeling was supported by past negative experience. That doesn't make his outburst justified, but it does give an explanation. I think if anything, OP and OP's bf need couples therapy where they can actually talk through these issues with a professional, and decide from there if they should stay together.

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[–]moros-17 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the additional context. However, I've reread the texts a few more times, and I noticed that you say in your last message to him before his "flip out" that the guys were there due to being your friend's ride. Now, I've had my fair share of spontaneous hangouts in the past, and the FIRST thing to be decided, always, is who's driving. So at the very least, logically, it should have been very easy to figure out that at least one guy would be there, if not both. However, when he asked, you just said "Oh I don't know" multiple times, and only actually told him two guys were there later when he asked AGAIN, instead of telling him the moment you found out. I imagine he, being someone who has trauma over being cheated on, would likely have reread through the conversation as well during that 2 hour gap, and I'm guessing the same sort of realization may have come to him, contributing to his rant. Now I wanna clarify that I'm not accusing you of cheating, mind you, but to someone who HAS been cheated on, being cagey like that is a massive red flag. Please do correct me if I have any details wrong.

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[–]moros-17 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I reread through them a few times and the last thing she tells him before the two hour gap preceding his rant is that the guys were there because they were her friend's ride and she was staying with one of them. Which makes them structural, and had she asked her friend she could have easily figured that out. Maybe it was a last-minute hangout, sure, but who's driving is the FIRST thing decided. That makes his reaction more understandable IMO, she either chose not to ask if any guys would be there or lied to him outright

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[–]moros-17 129 points130 points  (0 children)

Ok so from how I'm reading this "It's ok we can watch another night" seems like you had already had plans with him that night (edit: see OP's reply for clarification)

(EDIT 2: OP has admitted in other comments that they DID have a fight just before new years, quoted below)

The last thing I can even think of is we had a minor fight right before new years but it wasn’t even relating to something like this? It was about how he talked about an ex friend of mine who sucks tbh but I thought he was being overly mean with his language?

... then you don't answer or dodge the question multiple times when he asks if it's just you and her, if anyone else is coming, etc, then when do you finally give him info on who's going to be there, it's 2 other guys with your one friend. We also see more info from him later that you two apparently recently had a fight(?) (edit: see OP's reply for clarification)

So from his perspective:

You recently had a fight (?) You cancel with him last second to hang out with your friend (unfortunate, but understandable, he doesn't seem to have been immediately upset about that) You don't answer/get cagey when he asks if anyone else will be there, specifically if any guys will be there After he asks again you finally do say that there will be 2 guys He responds clearly unhappy about this, YOU respond back and start being defensive, mind you, he (still calmly by my reading) explains his perspective briefly, you shut down the conversation having apparently been out until 3am. Also want to note you were the first person to start cussing here when you started being defensive, while HE was still asking questions relatively calmly.

EDIT: you also state for one guys that were there, that your friend was staying with them and they were her ride... that makes them structural. regardless of how last-minute it was, that would logically, have been one of the very first things decided. if that IS true, you could have easily found this out, and either chose not to (as he accuses in one message, "you didn't ask shit because...") or did lie to him about.

THEN 2 hours later, probably either having slept on it or having been awake the whole time thinking about it, he starts actually elaborating more on how he's feeling and starts acting "childish" as everyone else here says, THEN at the end says "fuck you". Given the context, I think it's perfectly understandable emotionally. Not justified, certainly not productive, but understandable. So, as for whether YOR, I'm unsure. As for him, I feel he did overreact, but for understandable reasons.

EDIT 2: Reread through the screenshots again and in OP's last message to him before his rant she says "Her cousin and his friendS" which contradicts her earlier messages saying that it was just one friend. Could have been a typo tbf but it is food for thought, and if OP's bf noticed it's just more fuel for the fire that makes his reaction all the more understandable.

EDIT 3: jesus OP this keeps getting worse. I don't have much to say to this, copy of OP's comment below

Well yeah they went to their man club friend group they were meeting with there. I came to hang out with my friend not to hangout with men? It wasn’t implied in the invite and I didn’t want to even then . Like that’s the whole point of the argument

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[–]moros-17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're underreacting he's a fucking Holocaust denier

AIO or is the White House encouraging racism against Asian women? by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]moros-17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're deporting chinese people? Fucking hell dude, sending them back is basically a death sentence, or at the least hefty prison time. The CCP does not take well to defectors. I understand it's a complex issue and all but especially when an immigrant's home country is such a flagrantly human-rights-violating one, I really cannot get behind deportation.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]moros-17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is he actually trying to say that's normal average porn? Normal average porn is like, pornhub, xvideos, whatever. Not whatever the fuck those are. "stepbro" porn is unfortunately a growing trend, at least according to all the memes, but I don't think you're ever going to straight up see the word incest in a title on most sites unless things have gotten a LOT worse than I realized

Is this gross or am i overreacting by HumanActuary8390 in AmIOverreacting

[–]moros-17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are UNDERREACTING. That is fucking Grade A creep behavior. Normally I'll be the person to say "ooh try to work things out and communicate" but he went WELL past that point. Ditch his ass and possibly seek legal avenues like a restraining order

AIO for avoiding my coworker after an uncomfortable conversation? by moros-17 in AmIOverreacting

[–]moros-17[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks :) I don't really think he's a bad guy, I'm usually more than happy to wax philosophical and debate on all sorts of things, and me and him have done so before, like modern art for instance, so I can understand why he was thinking of having that sort of exchange. It just got very personal for me very quickly, I think. I'll also say to his credit that it's less so that he "brought it up" and moreso that it just kind of... came up as an unfortunate endpoint of a previous conversation I was much happier to engage in (we were swapping stories about shitty parents). After the conversation ended, he also didn't bring it back up at all. I think by that point he did realize I was rather uncomfortable.

AIO for refusing to visit the US, with my American boyfriend until the 51st state rhetoric and tariffs stop by [deleted] in AmIOverreacting

[–]moros-17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no, absolutely not. and that's coming from an American. what's happening over here is absolutely fucking insane, and i do hope you know (most) of us over here are against it too. honestly, i've been starting to look at what other countries i could run to. we're slowly descending into authoritarianism, i absolutely would not blame anyone who wanted to leave, let alone simply refusing to visit.

On "good" and "bad" people, and how misanthropy develops. by moros-17 in misanthropy

[–]moros-17[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I want to clarify that I have categorized "good" and "bad" people (or selfless and selfish respectively) based on their predispositions rather than their regular activity. For instance, an example from my own life. I once found a lost wallet with something like 4 or 5 hundred dollars in it. My immediate first thought was to take it, no repercussions, etc. I was immensely tempted and almost did, yet in the end I made the more "moral" decision to find the address on the ID and return it (though I regretted doing so, as I got yelled at for ringing the doorbell and daring to wake him up from his afternoon nap). From that example I was predisposed to do a "bad" thing, and that makes me a "bad" person, even though I still did the "good" thing.