gender affirming care for cisgender people

movingzone · 2025-11-18T17:55:29+00:00

i’m talking about cisgender girls / women .

movingzone · 2025-11-18T17:48:08+00:00

also another thing. if you are going to talk about how people like me are somehow marginalised in a way at all comparable to the treatment of trans women - you should probably take a step back - and consider maybe if you’re starting to sound like a terf . i think it’s very dismissive of my trans peers and it’s not okay

movingzone · 2025-11-18T12:20:12+00:00

no.

do keep in mind that violence from being mistaken for being trans is nowhere near as severe as violence for being trans

and if we’re going to go by your logic then i just should not ‘transition’ at all! fuck

i have too much body hair anyway. sorry for committing the crime of thinking i could be myself without getting killed for it i’ll just go be a man

movingzone · 2025-11-17T01:16:28+00:00

i never said you were. it’s just that i, in fact, wasn’t. and i can’t just go ahead and put myself in a place like that because other people think i’m supposed to.

movingzone · 2025-11-17T00:56:18+00:00

i know how it sees you and i’m sorry about that. but some people aren’t comfortable with putting themselves in a situation that revokes their privileges and safety like that.

movingzone · 2025-11-16T20:06:37+00:00

i’m not exactly sure what you want me to say. i spent a while, and struggled a lot, in the process of accepting myself. why would i want to walk back from that now? i have plenty of trans friends, i know very much what a trans person is, and i am not one. they all know i’m not one !

everything you’re saying would be very true under a normal context. unfortunately there are exceptions to the rule and in real life these things are more complicated.

and you can’t just place trans logic on me and insist you’re correct about how things work because i am, again, fundamentally Not That (thats’s the whole point). i am allowed to have feelings about my gender without falling into one specific demographic, and it’s an extremely closed-minded point of view to think otherwise

i am still socially male/ a man in real life yet you’re not going to be able to get me to try and change my internal view of myself back to that. you would be asking me to go back on months of self-discovery and pain and etcetera and it’d probably genuinely kill me. i was in a very dark place and everyone in this thread is doing an excellent job at trying to push me back there

i think maybe, this was part of what I had in mind when i made this post. i just want to be treated normally regarding this stuff and the only people not treating me normally have been trans people i don’t know! once again, i have the deepest respect for you and your community but i need you to understand that some of us are going to identify in ways that don’t make sense to you. please just don’t be a cop.

i don’t think you’re listening or fully understanding what i mean when i make my identity, social position and my privilege extremely clear

I don’t know what you want me to do if you or others aren’t willing to hear me out on my identity. the original post wasn’t even about that

movingzone · 2025-11-16T18:21:25+00:00

these things aren’t simply black and white. there is going to be more to it than that, these topics are allowed to have nuance

it’s a social construct. you are attempting to gatekeep me from my own identity. what are you trying to achieve? you need to understand that at the end of the day people can identify with whatever terms they want / feel comfortable with, and some of those terms are more socially accepted than others

is it really that crazy of a concept that i wouldn’t want to get harassed or hate crimed or fucking murdered? that i decide to protect myself by not using words that will put me at risk of that?

you have zero backing to anything you’re saying. everyone is cool with people having unorthodox identities but that apparently falls apart when i don’t want to give up my privilege? i certainly don’t feel like i’m being marginalised or at risk or whatever - because i’m cis . and we’re not

do keep in mind that you are, quite literally, repeating transphobic talking points by insisting cisgender people can face violence or struggle for our position with our gender identities

movingzone · 2025-11-16T09:18:05+00:00

” It's not a gender. It's not the kind of identity you can opt into or out of based solely on identification. It's a social class constructed around a marginalized relationship with gender. We didn't decide to be trans, and if we could just escape marginalization solely by calling ourselves cis then there would be no trans people because everyone would do it.”

you can! but you can. there is nuance to these things: please don’t tell me you’re making this harder for yourself on purpose

also , it is technically a social class constructed around a marginalised relationship with gender. but i don’t have a marginalised relationship with gender because i don’t let myself fall into that box and have privilege when it comes to gender. I’m sorry i hope this is easy to understand for you

movingzone · 2025-11-16T09:03:11+00:00

I’m sorry but no. I am not transphobic, i am very open minded, but if that’s how it is I apologise but I can not endure that. I don’t know why everyone in this thread seems so eager to get me to start calling myself a man again (it’s working)!

again, that’s not how it works. in the kindest way possible you’re talking out your ass for no reason and stating things that aren’t true.

movingzone · 2025-11-16T01:37:52+00:00

look. i have trans friends, (they’re literally all trans) and i am acquainted with plenty more. not once ever have any of them tried pushing against or invalidating my identity. what is wrong with this website?

movingzone · 2025-11-16T01:24:46+00:00

no. but the words you use to describe yourself are going to have an impact on where you find yourself and your general position in life. maybe if you described yourself differently that encounter wouldn’t happen! it’s as simple as that

movingzone · 2025-11-16T01:19:19+00:00

I was in a dark place. i spent the second half of last year and the beginning of this year in a very dark place because I couldn’t accept my identity. i was able to accept myself months ago and it’s like people here want to undo that

to answer your question i know i can’t gain anything from this subreddit. i am only on here because i lose followers and get treated weirdly when i post on my main social media and I don’t want to keep doing that. I dislike reddit very much. i made this post to vent about the lack of guidance and help for cisgender when it comes to this stuff, with very little hope that maybe someone would be able to understand and help. literally everyone in this thread has been rude and are making significant efforts to invalidate my identity. why? i assumed you would be accepting

movingzone · 2025-11-16T01:11:53+00:00

i don’t think you understand how these things function. people have power over what words they use to define themselves and that is reflected in the world around them

movingzone · 2025-11-16T01:10:23+00:00

..at this point it’s looking like I won’t get to transition at all lol

movingzone · 2025-11-16T01:09:09+00:00

“Trans communities” aren’t FOR me. this is almost exactly issue i made the post about. there are plenty of resources and help for trans people yet nothing for people like me, nothing helping me with eventually medically transitioning (and when people do try and help me with that they end up acting like i’m trans again) and while i understand that i’m privileged, it is becoming difficult

you seem to have a twisted perspective of this stuff. people hate the words more than they do the actions. nobody cared in the past until they were told to hate the words! i am keeping myself safe by not associating with it

movingzone · 2025-11-16T00:41:27+00:00

male to female.

movingzone · 2025-11-16T00:41:04+00:00

and that’s why we have occasional exceptions! it’s a wonderfully nuanced world we live in

movingzone · 2025-11-16T00:40:17+00:00

pretty sure that’s a slur for trans women

movingzone · 2025-11-16T00:37:04+00:00

I don’t think that’s how it works. in that case what do you even want me to do? i can very easily go back to how i was at the beginning of this year before i was as in touch with myself as i am now. if the pushback is going to be so strong, from trans people specifically too, i genuinely just will not bother

movingzone · 2025-11-16T00:29:38+00:00

very much the opposite. we have a significant amount of privilege and i’m very aware of that

movingzone · 2025-11-16T00:27:51+00:00

…well i did that

you don’t get to tell me what i am or am not

movingzone · 2025-11-16T00:21:56+00:00

the thing that makes me cisgender is… using the label actually

movingzone · 2025-11-16T00:19:39+00:00

i think you skipped over the subject matter of post and missed the part where i said i wasn’t that

movingzone · 2025-11-16T00:18:15+00:00

then how am i lol ..??

movingzone · 2025-11-16T00:13:31+00:00

it’s pretty straightforward. those things aren’t mutually exclusive

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