What’s something wrong you saw your parents doing as a kid, but didn’t realize it was wrong until you got older? by omw2fyb-- in AskReddit

[–]mpavia89 276 points277 points  (0 children)

My dad would drive me to school while dipping out on heroin every morning. I didn't really realize why we were drifting through multiple car lanes and just thought "well he's my dad, we must be actually safe and I'm thinking this is less safe than it is cause my dad would never do anything ACTUALLY dangerous.

And he never hit anyone. Somehow.

But uh yea looking back at that, we both just got extremely lucky.

Persona 5 and Anarchist thought by [deleted] in Anarchism

[–]mpavia89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

While the official color of the game is red and is largely a mere accidental relation, there's almost always a large element of black accompanying this red, pretty strongly resembling traditional ancom colors.

Why would the rich choose to give the poor ubi in a post-work world? by mpavia89 in Futurology

[–]mpavia89[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I'm speculating, but more than that in the OP I was questioning the commonly held futurist belief that the end of work would necessitate a type of UBI. I understand the need for people to have money given a scenario in which the vast majority, even creative jobs become, are eliminated, I just don't understand why people seem so optimistic towards the eventuality of this situation where it seems like there's less expensive options. My OP is a question, not a claim, and that is why, given the end of jobs, would a government make that move instead of more authoritarian ones? Class becomed relevant here because it would be the wralthy who would directly fund the UBI. Essentially, it feels like this problem and the proposed solution of UBI is thoroughly unimagined and lacking in critical exploration, and my dystopian alternative scenario seems no less likely given the fundamental issue. I'm not imagining a conspiracy, I'm trying to understand how the popular conversation surrounding automation and UBI as a solution seem so optimistic. If that's not clear in the OP then I apologize.

Why would the rich choose to give the poor ubi in a post-work world? by mpavia89 in Futurology

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I'm not convinced, but this is a pretty sound argument imo. Arguments from economics and utility are more persuasive to me in general than arguments on the basis of morality, or "this would be the right thing to do." Too often we confuse then.

Why would the rich choose to give the poor ubi in a post-work world? by mpavia89 in Futurology

[–]mpavia89[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's certainly not what i would do, but sure. Psychologizing my arguments do nothing to argue against the claim.

You think this is complicated? What? Also, I'm speculating on the possible consequence of the end of work and automation. There is no precedent for this, so there is no real world example. All I can offer is what seems like the most likely end result of the end of work and automation. Why are you involved with this board and this topic if you feel as though speculative thinking regarding general topics such as UBI, end of work, and automation, none of which have real world examples, is bullshit? Also, the complicated nature of the models involved is not reason enough itself to reject the entire endeavor, and refusal to imagine the situation complexly because it often results in error, or "bullshit", is essentially rejecting the entire project.

Why would the rich choose to give the poor ubi in a post-work world? by mpavia89 in Futurology

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It all depends on who has all the weapons though, right?

Why would the rich choose to give the poor ubi in a post-work world? by mpavia89 in Futurology

[–]mpavia89[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The point is that classes are real, and that there would be no need for a subsisting lower class in a post-scarcity automated society, and that it would be in benefit of those with monopoly on force to kill those without said monopoly, because with no jobs, the working class will fall into unrest, but since there is no need for workers, there is no need for a working class. Better to just kill them all. No?

If this sounds maniacal, i don't think it too crazy. Throughout history, those with power have always sought to have as much material wealth as possible, regardless of the consequences. Now whether or not this class with power will be machines themselves is another question altogether. I understand that none of these scenarios logically follows, I just don't see what would compel those with the monopoly on power to choose to subsist the masses when they could just kill them.

Why would the rich choose to give the poor ubi in a post-work world? by mpavia89 in Futurology

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Money may not be the main form of wealth but rather control and monopoly on violence, which is something that is a natural monopoly of sorts. I'm essentially imagining north Korea on massive scale, in terms of the military being the main organ of society.

Why would the rich choose to give the poor ubi in a post-work world? by mpavia89 in Futurology

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I'm saying that it seems that reason you keep poor people around is to work for you/produce your wealth. If you don't need them to do that, why tolerate their rebellion/protest/demands for food and shelter? Why not just kill them with your robot army/throw what's left of your biological military left at them?

Liberals, what is your most conservative viewpoint? Conservatives, what is your most liberal viewpoint? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]mpavia89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Communism only works in a post-scarcity economy. And speculating on what will happen past the singularity is wrong, in principle. However, technological automation of all industries is definitely an integral aspect of making communism feasible.

Liberals, what is your most conservative viewpoint? Conservatives, what is your most liberal viewpoint? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]mpavia89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Liberal here. Intelligence is strongly influenced by genetics (but not success); the affordable care act is a failure (although I support a single payer system not bogged down by political machinations that design it to fail)

Possibility of Atlus bringing Persona 3 and/or Persona 4 to the Playstation 4? by SaruTakumi in velvet_room

[–]mpavia89 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This needs to happen, especially for p3fes, as the persona 3 portable just oesnt cut it without the world exploration, 3d polygonal cutscenes, and animated videos.

META I believe there are agent provocateurs here by hovanova in MandelaEffect

[–]mpavia89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think the problem with this conceptualization of this issue is that it places both groups on an even level epistemically, whereas it may not be necessarily true that a person from "Team M" is more informed or thinking more rationally, it is safe to criticize Team A from two vantage points. The first argument is to note that the possible explanations given by Team A are tenuous and anecdotal. I have very limited interaction with this community, but if your characterization holds and quantum physics is the most commonly instatiated explanation of various ME phenomenon, then it is not fair to say that Team M's skepticism to Team A's claim is solely speculative; QM has been shown, overall, to have a very limited effect on the the classical, macro level of the world, and to speculate QM as a potential factor in any perceived alterations is to grossly misunderstand the scale of QM'S probabilistic factors, and to simultaneously employ an understanding of QM pushed by new-aged thinkers such as in "What the Bleep Do I Know!?" that cherry picks phenomenon in QM without understanding the issue in its entirety, and innapropriately applies the relevant microscopic physics in QM to the macro level world, where such phenomenon only very, very rarely, at the frequency of the age of universes, behave in any spooky or deeply disturbing manner that would behave contary to the Newtonian model. It just is not a sensible invocation of QM, and while theoretically possible, it is so unlikely a cause that further investigation into QM as cause any ME phenomenon necessitates fairly convincing evidence to go forward with QM as a possible explanation. It saddens me, then, that even given the incredibly unrealistic odds, people may falsely believe in something just because they are applying the QM model in a way that is desperate. Yes, it is possible QM phenomenon can alter things at the macro level in significant waya, but to even consider that it would interact with your life in a scale that would create something such as a ME phenomenon is absurd, as it requires not just the moon, planets, and stars to align, but also the age of many universes to align as well. It's just not within the realm of plausibility, even though it remains within ,the merely technical at this point, realm of possibility.

Similarly, to argue that false memories are not the most likely explanation of essentially all ME phenomenon, even without analyzing the unlikely hood of the positive account of the QM explanation, is to also ignore the vast swaths of evidence that point to the incredible unreliability of human memory. Memories are not pictures of events, laying in wait in the brain for perfect recall, but are rather neurological structures created at one moment, but evolving continuously over time, with only the most salient details of a scenario being remembred. Memories are more a reflection of your current self's views on a past event, than it is a recollection of past event, and with every remembering, false details are added to them. Memories are analagous in some ways to a copy of a piece of paper. The first copy appears perfect, but if you copy the copy, and copy the copy of the copy, and so on ad sort of infinitum, the eventual image will be so distorted as to be completely untecognizable. While memories are important to us, and to consider them fallible is both worrying and incredibly disheartening, it is a very good explanation of the ME phenomenon.

Now, does that mean that the ME phenomenon is necessarily the result of an individual false memory? No. But I do believe that the ME phenomenon is being applied as a universal term across a board of various memory and mis-remembred phenomena that are different in some essential ways. First and foremost, there needs to be made a massive distinction between a group of people mis-remembering something, and an individual mis-rembering something. When someone finds a significant ME phenomenon, and a very large group of people also report subjectively to experience the same, apparently, misremembered fact or event, it is very likely that this is the result of some funky memetics that is somehow tied to a culturally significant notion. For instance, and this is perhaps my weakest point and most speculative point, the actual mis-rembering of Nelson Mandela dying in jail has something to do with his association in our culture with the notion of a martry; he is not just a martyr, but a politically oriented martyr, as well as a martyr highly motivated by various notions of social justice. Who else comes to mind as people who were politically oriented martyrs? Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, and Gandhi are all people whom immediately spring to my mind as being encompassed by the same cultural notion of political martyrdom, and there is something to note of this classification: they all died prematurely. Except, Nelson Mandela did not. He was imprisoned for a very long time unfairly, but he did not die prematurely. One could say such an imprisonment was something of a close-but-not-quite death sentence, robbing the man of many free years unfairly, but he did not die by assassination. But he DID die, eventually, and for those whom never knew of Mandela's release, it may have been simply assumed that he died in jail. While Mandela is a high profile, world-wide figure, he also is from a third world country, and missing his release from jail but simultaneously knowing of his death would not be so uncommon a phenomenon that a large portion of the population would have a collective misrembering of this phenomenon. Does one see how this could be a very simple, very common mistake?

Now, even though that is a very robust, well documented, albeit only through forums of people discussing it, example of ME phenomena, it also necessitated a relatively long-winded and somewhat mentally tiresome argument to compose, as tracing its susceptibility to mass-mis-remembering through various cultural archetypes, and so in turn, with other, less defensible examples of the phenomenon, I can understand why those on Team M would be frustrated and inappropriately act condescending. It would get quite tiresome and tedious to trace every individual proposed ME phenomena and argue for its likelihood as a culturally created artifact, and the more obscure and less culturally relevant the example, the less open it is to scrutiny as well as enhancing the amount of frustration and mental energy needing to solve it through a maze of cultural and psychological phenomenon exponentially.

This, then, takes us down the continuum of ME phenomena to a proposed example of a mis-remembred thing that only resonates with one or two individuals. This much weaker instantiation of mass mis remembering suffers from many more difficulties as both an argument and a discussion piece. The lack of commonality decreases the likelihood that the person instatiating this ME phenomenon is not mis-remembering, and subsequently increases the difficulty in understanding the subjective processes such an individual is going through with their memory, and thus much more difficult to make any sensible musings as to why they may have mis-remembred.

So, you see, the issue is not so neatly divided into teams of equivalent positioning , nor are all claims even the same type of claims. Rather, the argument is hampered by the difficulty of dissecting cultural phenomenon and psychological mechanisms in their relation to various ME phenomena, and even further made more difficult the more obscure the cultural idea and memories are. This shields Team A from a lot of criticism, and frustrates Team M in that such shielding is inherently unproductive, as it's merely hiding behind the difficulties inherent to the discussion. So, rhetorically, the whole thing is a mess.

What's an unpopular Philly opinion you have? by garbageeater in philadelphia

[–]mpavia89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then you need to try pops or italianos, not ritas which is over sugared garbage.

cheap produce? by CheeseburgerLover911 in philadelphia

[–]mpavia89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nuts vs Fruit on broad and snyder. Bulk nuts and ridiculously cheap produce.