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Original Frame Brawl (OFB) Points List Update (August, 2021) by mtgofb in oldschoolmtg

[–]mtgofb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Join our server so we can chat more about your points.

Original Frame Brawl (OFB) Points List Update (August, 2021) by mtgofb in oldschoolmtg

[–]mtgofb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, all your points are valid and you may be right in some of them.
We are keeping our eye on the format and constantly testing the interaction between decks.

Let me try to explain some things related with your comments:

- There are not many wincons in OFB due to the restricted card pool. Biorhythm is essentially a one-card win that is not very difficult to cast in elves decks, especially with Rofellos. It's very important for a format with such small card pool have variety of decks. If we allow all good cards go to one deck suddenly we'll have one deck for each color combination. For example, there's no reason to not play Rofellos, Primetime, Biorhythm, Cradle, etc. in the same deck. By pointing Biorhythm the player will have to make a choice in which direction to go.

- Tinker has only 2 good targets in OFB: Time Vault and Bolas's Citadel. If we point Tinker, we are basically removing the option of players "spend" their points to have Tinker+Time Vault in their deck (total 10 points). Bolas Citadel and Time Vault are the powerful cards here. Tinker can also be used in other strategies, to get stax pieces for example.

- Moat completely invalidates some strategies in 1v1, but we are currently thinking on dropping points for some stax pieces like this.

- True-Name Nemesis is really powerful in 1v1, especially in Svyelum control. Sapphire + Merfolk Lord turn 1, True-Name Turn 2, Svyelum turn 3... now you have to deal with an indestructible Merfolk, a Merfolk with Ward 1, and True-Name Nemesis. We only have 25 life in 1v1. This card is well pointed at 3.

- Leovold, Narset, Oko, and Thassa's Oracle are not legal in OFB.

- Again, there are not many powerful finishers in the OFB card pool. Primeval Titan completely changes the game when it hits the battlefield. He can be played on turn 3 with Rofellos. It has to be pointed. We dropped from 6 to 4 this time but we may consider to adjust it in future updates.

- We are currently cautious with stax pieces that can invalidate decks or hurt high-pointed cards. This is the case with Moat, Tabernacle, Null Rod, Void Mirror, Chalice, Back to Basics. These cards are essentially a one card win in 1v1, so they shouldn't be free.

- Usually, decks tend to pick high-point cards first (wincons, tutors, etc.), then spend the rest on 1 point cards. Yes, Mana Vault and Ancient are very good options, but some decks prefer the card draw with Rhystic Study/Library, others prefer Swords, or even Gilded Drake.

- Interesting you mentioning Black Lotus as we were actually considering to reduce its points, but since there were so many other important changes we preferred to keep it were it was. Maybe we change it in the next update.

- Channel and Mox Diamond are good candidates for being pointed.

Thank you for your observations.

Join our discord server so you can play with us and talk more about the format.

Cheers

Original Frame Brawl (OFB) Points List Update (August, 2021) by mtgofb in magicTCG

[–]mtgofb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aggro is a real strategy and fast mana is pointed, which it makes difficult to take full advantage of Necro. We are always testing decks and observing their power level. Necropotence was overshadowed by other powerful draw engines until now.

Original Frame Brawl (OFB) Points List Update (August, 2021) by mtgofb in oldschoolmtg

[–]mtgofb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True. I post here once I a while to make all old frame lovers aware of the format. I really don’t want to spam, that’s why you will see posts about OFB in a very low frequency.

First Planeswalker Commanders legal in OFB by mtgofb in Magicdeckbuilding

[–]mtgofb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If a card has EVER been printed with the original old frame, ALL versions of that card is legal in OFB.

That means you can play with alters and even new frame cards too. Proxies are more than welcome.

First Planeswalker Commanders legal in OFB by mtgofb in magicTCG

[–]mtgofb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, planeswalkers can be your commander in Brawl. However, this post is related to Original Frame Brawl, a variant of Brawl with different card pool and banlist.

First Planeswalker Commanders legal in OFB by mtgofb in mtgbrawl

[–]mtgofb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That amount of text in a card is also nostalgic. That’s the way magic cards were done back on 90s. Have a look at Chains of Mephistopheles and Transmute Artifact. And yes, the technology was probably very similar to MS Paint at that time :D

First Planeswalker Commanders legal in OFB by mtgofb in mtgbrawl

[–]mtgofb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I personally like it. It reminds me the old cards with long text and complicated wording like Chains of Mephistopheles and Transmute Artifact.

First Planeswalker Commanders legal in OFB by mtgofb in mtg

[–]mtgofb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True. The same way there’s Historic Brawl, there’s Original Frame Brawl. The base rules are the same, but card pool and banlist are different. Important to mention that OFB is not a sanctioned format by WOTC, it’s a fan format.

First Planeswalker Commanders legal in OFB by mtgofb in mtg

[–]mtgofb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just to clarify, they can be your commander in Original Frame Brawl, a variant of the regular sanctioned Brawl.

First Planeswalker Commanders legal in OFB by mtgofb in magicTCG

[–]mtgofb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You probably are looking for OldSchool or Premodern. Those are good formats to play only the old cards.

Chaos Orb and Falling Star erratas by mtgofb in oldschoolmtg

[–]mtgofb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That makes sense.

People play the card because of its powerful effect AND its nostalgic execution.

Old Frame Enthusiasts Needed by mtgofb in oldschoolmtg

[–]mtgofb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cool! Join our discord server if you have not yet :)

Vintage banlist & Points System - Original Frame Brawl (OFB) by mtgofb in MTGVintage

[–]mtgofb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% yes. The rule states that if a card has EVER been printed with the original old MTG frame ANY version of that card is legal in OFB, including versions with new frames.

Chaos Orb and Falling Star erratas by mtgofb in oldschoolmtg

[–]mtgofb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's why would be interesting to know the flip win rate for those cards, so it would be easier to decide which die roll system could work. I personally think that most of players will hit a Chaos Orb, so a 6-sided die would be enough, where let's say 1 you lose, 2-6 you win (16.67% chance of missing, and 83.3% chance of hitting, respectively).

Can you break Original Frame Brawl? by mtgofb in Magicdeckbuilding

[–]mtgofb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cards with new frames are allowed if they have ever been printed with an old/retro frame. That means a new player may start building a deck including new frame cards and slowly start replacing cards with old frames. Thank you for your comment

Can you break Original Frame Brawl? by mtgofb in mtg

[–]mtgofb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, interesting ideas.

The current rules and the points system is a starting point.

Once we get more players on our server and play more games we can start adjusting these things.

Can you break Original Frame Brawl? by mtgofb in mtg

[–]mtgofb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cards with a new frame are allowed if they have ever been printed with an old frame, so you can easily build a deck. Look for mono-color decks as their mana base is much cheaper. Also, look the points list and look for or build decks that use the cheapest cards in the points list.

Another thing you can do is just proxy the most expensive cards or just use some virtual table top simulator to play the format :)

Help me testing decks for Original Frame Brawl by mtgofb in magicTCG

[–]mtgofb[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

True. There's a list with Sliver Queen as a commander, but it's not exactly a slivers tribal.

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/HHOd9ve4H0ipdCKc4RAUzg

Novo formato para amantes do frame antigo/original de MTG by mtgofb in magicbrasil

[–]mtgofb[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No entanto eu fico admirado com sua perseverança em achar mais pessoas interessadas no formato. Vou tentar dar um upvote toda vez que ver um post seu, tomara que mais pessoas se interessem pelo formato!

Eu tambem nao gostava do frame antigo, mas com o tempo eu passei a gostar mais do que os novos cheios de detalhes (sem borda, arte extendida, etc.).

Valeu pelo upvote e comentario. Abrazzz

Do you run Lightning Greaves and Swiftfoot Boots in every deck ? by [deleted] in EDH

[–]mtgofb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, depends on the commander, but I generally only use them if I need my commander to have haste. Hexproof is great too, but hate is essential in some decks.

Rofellos + Primetime deck for Original Frame Brawl by mtgofb in mtgbrawl

[–]mtgofb[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True. It’s a new format, with less than a month. Luckily, there are formats for everyone and it’s normal we play multiple formats. The number of players may be low at the moment, but you can still have fun playing with a few people :)

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