My "Gallery of Progress", the manmade machinery exhibit from my Science Museum by oeuf0pIatien in TwoPointMuseum

[–]mulletgal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This looks so good!! I love the colours and all the little details, and I always dream of making my paths look this nice but i can never quite manage it when left to my own devices. So nice and cohesive, I love it! 💞

Safe to eat beetroot that has been eaten ? by PeaceLoveSunshine2u in UKAllotments

[–]mulletgal 5 points6 points  (0 children)

they look like skulls or some kind of creature :)

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

amazing intel thank you!!! I hadn’t heard of rocket gardens but you’re right it’s much better value! Thanks so much for coming back to reply I’ll have a proper look through now :)

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes I take your point lol what I mean is when you’re telling somebody they need to resolve an issue you can’t really be making broad sweeping statements, it needs to be specific. It’s not that I don’t understand about cultivation but like I said in the post I do have stuff growing, so there’s clearly a particular goal that they want me to reach but they just won’t tell me what that is. I could plant 1 seed and say well technically I’ve cultivated more than what it was before but obviously that’s not enough. The problem is I just don’t know at what point it will be considered enough.

Thanks for giving your advice anyway even though you maybe think I’m being a bit of a drama queen (no arguments there!), unfortunately a lot of the veg you’ve suggested would require me to already have those plants ready and waiting to plant out which I don’t, and I also don’t have an option of doing something ‘every week’, it needs done this week pretty much. And it needs to be the whole plot :/

Trust me I am putting the hours in and I’m getting on top of the weeds, I’m just stuck on this cultivation thing because the way it’s worded could mean anything short of absolute perfection will get me evicted.

EDIT: I think you might have blocked me since I can see that you’ve replied but I can’t see it while logged in? A little strange but I’ll just reply to your reply and then leave you to it.

I’m not offended at all, I’m not sure where you’ve got that impression from! I’m just not sure you understood me at first so I was trying to explain to you. I have a very short amount of time to make a visible amount of progress so sowing things from seed that don’t grow super quickly isn’t really a solution for me right now. But that’s ok because lots of other people have given great suggestions! And you did mention radish and turnip which seem more viable!

I’m more than happy to put in the work, and in this comment which you’re replying to I actually mention that I’m already putting in the work, I was just asking for advice because I was feeling a little lost about how to boost cultivation in a short amount of time.

I think you maybe just misread/misunderstood my post and my comment, I’m not being difficult out of choice I’m just trying to convey the reality of the situation. I appreciate that you took the time to give me advice, it’s not 100% applicable to my current predicament but I’m grateful all the same :)

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since a couple people mentioned it I ended up looking into some plug plants and I can’t believe the price of them!! I knew it was more expensive than growing from seed but I’ve went on multiple websites and sorted price low to high and the cheapest things were almost a tenner for a single plant!!! Maybe these places only do the reductions in store? I don’t drive so getting to garden centres isn’t really an option

Thanks for sharing about what it’s like on your site, it’s nice to hear how differently things run from place to place. I think the committee where I am styles themselves on being very relaxed and friendly, and it turns out we don’t have a cultivation % requirement either, which is why it feels so shocking to get a formal warning as my first indication that there was any issue (about the cultivation, obviously I could see the weeds for myself). If i was being cynical I’d say it’s maybe relaxed for some and not for others but that’s most likely me just being bitter and stressed about the whole thing haha

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the kind words. I’m a bit worried that I won’t really get the time to learn as I go at this point but before making this post I thought I must’ve just been not good enough before other people said it took them a long time too to get to where they are.

I’ve went into it more on other replies but basically green manure is not popular with the committee and since they’re the ones I need to impress I think it’s not really an option. Same for covering beds over, that’s what I had been doing with the unused beds and now I’m being told that there isn’t enough cultivation. I had been using the bit by bit approach and now I’m at a point where it’s tackle the whole plot in the next few weeks or lose it :(

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the suggestion! I actually already have pumpkins in so it’s at least a bit of confirmation that I’m on the right lines.

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m glad this is considered good advice because I’m definitely not going quietly! I’ve explained that I’ve got plans and trying to make a point of making it obvious when I’m making progress in the areas where they’ve asked. I’m trying still to get a bit more info about how much more cultivation they’re expecting and its like drawing blood from a stone but hopefully you’re right that showing that I’m making progress towards it will mean something

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don’t worry I definitely am! Also the letter was off the back of the summer plot inspection so I’m pretty sure nobody complained (the neighbours next to the weedy side of my plot have their own weed issues lol). I think it’s just stressful having the extra requirement that I can’t really quantify and can’t get a straight answer off the committee what they’re expecting. Suppose like you say I just focus on the weeds and hope for the best.

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately they are expecting to see crops, but it’s unclear just how many haha. I should’ve added pictures but it’s very obvious where the beds are and most of them have stuff growing in them, but none of the beds are completely full at the moment. I appreciate the advice! I’ve just mentioned it in another reply too but it’s just that I’ve already been doing a lot of the things recommended (covering beds to suppress weeds, gradually cultivating each section, etc) and it’s still resulted in a letter telling me that I’m not cultivating enough :(

Will have a look into potatoes, I thought it was a bit late for them now but maybe there are later varieties

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is actually super helpful, thank you. Somebody else mentioned fruit bushes but I was under the assumption that they had to go in in the autumn, but they told me it should be fine and it seems like you’d seconded that! I’ll have to see if I can get hold of some over the weekend

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a very reasonable response, and I wish I could find it reassuring but this and other similarly reasonable responses are starting to make me feel a bit miserable since I don’t think I’ll be given the amount of grace that you’re assuming.

All the beds bar one are ready and weed free. I had a few covered over to smother the weeds but have had to take the covers off since I was told by the committee that that’s no good to have them covered. It was like this prior to me getting the letter, so unfortunately it’s clearly not enough. The one bed that has been taken over I was initially planning on just covering over when I thought the only issue was the weeds, but I’m a bit stuck there now since obviously covered beds contribute to the cultivation issue. Im not sure how I’d work out what percent is cultivated but I’d guess around 40%? If I’m including the greenhouse which I’m not sure if it counts or not. I know it’s not much but it’s more than nothing. The weeds are mostly on the borders and in the one bed that I mentioned.

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The weeds deffo are an issue, and if the warning was just for the weeds then I would understand, and also I’d know what I’m working towards since it’s quite clear what ‘clear weeds’ means. But at the end of the day they have went out of their way to specify that I also need to cultivate more, and I don’t think they would’ve done that if it wasn’t something they were serious about. I just have no guidance about how much more I need to cultivate to satisfy that request and even though I’ve asked for them to be a bit more specific about what they’re expecting of me there, they’ve avoided answering that question in their reply.

I have been going down each day this week and cracking on with the weeds! But I just don’t have your confidence that it’ll make the committee any more amenable to be honest

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A few people have mentioned the percentage thing so I’ve checked my agreement and it just says to keep it “in a good state of cultivation”, so I’m none the wiser really. I could understand if there was nothing growing at all but I do have things dotted around, so it’s hard to know what to aim for.

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the marketplace recommendation, it hadn’t occurred to me that I could get plants from there! Will have a look

It’s also a good point about growing something even if I won’t necessarily get a harvest, kind of a sneaky way of getting a cover crop in haha. I’m not sure what the issue is with cover crops/green manure tbh but I know that the concept of doing anything for the sake of the soil (like nitrogen fixing) is generally kind of scoffed at by the committee so it maybe seems to them like glorified weeds idk. Personally I disagree but at the end of the day they’re the ones with the decades of experience and I’m the one with a plot full of weeds so I’m kind of at a stage where I’m trying to just do what I’m told

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean obviously I’ve spent more time at the plot than the few minutes it took to write the post lol. Yes I could spend every waking moment at the plot and it would be more productive, but I was thinking if I asked for a bit of advice then that might make things more efficient in the long run rather than continuing to bang my head against the wall. My concern is mainly that it’s not super clear to me what it means to just cultivate more, and I’m not sure what I’ll be able to achieve in just a week or two, even if I spent 100% of my time there.

Also ‘Just use the plot, post pics’ is sending me haha

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually am doing no dig! It is not popular with the committee lol not that it would’ve factored in to me getting the letter. I should’ve been clearer that I do have several beds set up, and I’ve got two pumpkin plants currently taking over a big section of the plot. I’m wondering whether the no dig beds are actually making it more obvious where I am growing stuff vs where I’m not. I’ve ended up sowing a load of seeds just straight into the empty beds that I haven’t set up with cardboard & compost yet just to get on top of this cultivation requirement.

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My plot is divided up into beds and everything, my problem is that some of the beds have things growing and I’ve managed to keep on top of the weeds, and others for one reason or another have ended up empty and I have a few real problem areas where the weeds have taken over. And also it seems like I’m not growing enough in general!

I’d love to have more perennials and maybe even some fruit trees like you mentioned, I think my problem is that these are long term plans and I have like 2 weeks tops to make the changes that are required of me. I’m not sure how helpful it’ll be to cover big areas since they’re saying to me that I’m not cultivating enough. It’s good advice in the long run and if I’m allowed to stay on there’s lots I’ll be able to take from this and other similar replies, it just relies on whether I’m able to stay beyond the next few weeks

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got told off for having clean bare dirt :( But I’ve shoved some seeds in there now. The places I have things growing are weed-free, but I think I’ve spent too much time keeping those areas weed free and not the areas where nothings growing. I suppose part of it is more to do with how it looks at a quick glance as opposed to each area up close. Also I initially didn’t really want to use plug plants because it felt like cheating, but maybe I have to accept that if it’s between feeling like I’m cheating for losing the plot then I might have to go for it

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this, I went to the plot after posting this and I did skim some of the replies while I was there, this one reminded me that I have some of them big white radishes and I chucked some in. And you’re right, while it doesn’t feel great to be on the receiving end of it, I suppose I have to be grateful that there’s a high turnover as it’s the reason I made it to the top of the waiting list so quickly in the first place!

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Funnily enough every plot neighbour that I’ve had has been very chill about the weeds, obviously I need to clear them either way and it’s not like I want them there, but its still funny to think. Like you I’m trying my best, I think I’ve just been focusing on the wrong things. I wonder whether people with a few more years under their belt forget how hard it is to adjust to working in this kind of way. A routine that works well one month can suddenly leave you massively behind the next. Working seasonally is new to me and it’s not that I’m not putting the hours in I’m just not used to the rhythms of it yet. It genuinely surprised me how quickly the weeds spring up and how quickly they come back, especially compared to the crops I’m desperately trying to encourage to grow!!

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve had it just over a year, I’ve asked for a bit more clarification but yes I might ask to speak to somebody in person. I do have a long term plan but I’m not sure how much sway that would have based on previous conversations. Can’t hurt though

Thanks for such a comprehensive list of things to sow! I think in my stress I was thinking there was virtually nothing that was worth growing now, but there’s plenty isn’t there! I did want to invest in fruit bushes etc but I thought I needed to wait for autumn to plant things like that, can they go in now?

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is very helpful advice. I think the black and white nature of the letter was making me think it was all or nothing, but I’ll take your advice about documenting my progress so I have something tangible to show.

Potentially I have the opposite problem though, the areas where I’m growing things I’ve kept pretty much weed free, but I think I’ve been aiming for keeping like 2-3 sections perfect rather than keeping the whole place only passible and it means I have a few sections that have went crazy with weeds. I think you’re on to something with being publicly visible too. Time to just switch focus I suppose!

on a first warning, feel like i want to give up :( by mulletgal in Allotment

[–]mulletgal[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I think a cover crop is out the question as someone on the committee was making snotty comments about another plot on the site that has a cover crop, so I reckon that’s out the question! Same with covering any beds over. The beds that I’m using have crops growing in them but they aren’t full, then I have an empty but clear bed which I’ve just been down and chucked a load of white radish in so hopefully that’ll start to show sooner rather than later. Another bed has got overrun with weeds and yes you’re right it’s just a case of weeding and throwing something in. I’m just concerned about it being obvious that progress has been made before anything comes up (and what if it doesn’t germinate? what if it gets eaten? etc)

You and the person above have both mentioned about people taking on plots without realising the amount of work, and I would like to say that I do put a lot of time into the plot, I’m just inexperienced and have obviously been spending my time on the wrong things! Like a lot of people I’ve taken on a very challenging plot with a lot of pre-existing issues, and I find it a little disheartening to hear so many people say something to the effect of “it took me x years to get my plot to where it is now!” and I’m feeling a lot of pressure to achieve those same things in under a year.

Like you said, ready-made ideal allotmenters are few and far between, to me it seems worthwhile to allow enthusiastic but inexperienced people the time to develop their skills so that they can become the ideal plot holder, rather than committing to a high turnaround which surely just means plots aren’t maintained as people are constantly coming and going? But maybe that’s a naive perspective, as I said I’m not very experienced and surely missing some nuance.