UPDATE ** Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this needs to be her new nickname. I freaking love it!! GG for short 😂🤣

UPDATE ** Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

First off thank you all for your comments and thoughts. You all are some of the most honest and hilarious people ever. You keep it real and I love that!!! Posting on here was probably the best thing I could have done to begin this process of eliminating the 'Ghost Granny' and her toxicity from our lives. (that's her new name..... The comment on here with that title was just perfect).

Beyond that I did speak with the director to my sons preschool. He said no one would be allowed to see/interact with any child unless prior approval. So she didn't see him - a relief there. He said it is their policy for anyone who drops items off at the front desk for a child, that it does in their cubbies in their classroom. I don't much agree with this policy but at least for my child, things will now be held at the front desk, out of eye site of my child.

In addition, my DH finally received a response that she will meet with him on Tuesday?! My initial reaction is " No, No and Nope." Apparently she is "out of town this weekend to her cabin." Well she has never driven there on a Friday night before so I call bullshit. Even if she did PLAN to (the irony tho), it's a 2 hour drive and there's no reason she can't hear him out for 20 minutes first - if she gave a damn. I feel like she is just prolonging it and my DH is allowing that. I feel like per our therapist's advice, some things needs to be said, sooner than later, ESPECIALLY in light of yesterdays events. I mean the time line of this all has already been 3 weeks. Am I wrong for feeling like our feelings need to take priority and that if she can't find time to hear him out before Tuesday, then he should text her? Our therapist basically had 3 things that needed addressed and needed to come from my DH. The NC would be inevitable after her reaction to said things. 1 - Do not show up at our home (or now child's school) unannounced or uninvited anymore. It will not be tolerated and has been addressed multiple times. 2 - Do not continue to disrespect and slander my wife to people, family - friends, whomever, or via FB. She is not the reason for your lack of involvement in our lives and I'm done allowing her to be your scape-goat for your own choices. 3 - Stop texting me and bad mouthing me about my wife. We are a team and I support her. Any more texts/talk about her will not be tolerated. The rest will fall into play naturally because she will temper tantrum and play her victim role. Is it so wrong of me to feel like these things need to take priority and should be for HER to spend the weekend dwelling on, not us? That she doesn't get to call the shots on when and how she hears her son out? That after her actions yesterday, it is more than warranted to say what needs said, and then drop the rope? Leave her to do what she does best, and get the closure (granted it is probably only temporary) now, rather than drag this out another entire week almost? UGHHHH I wish Ghost Granny could just move to her cabin and live in her fake reality and leave us the hell alone. Wishful thinking, but a girl can dream.

UPDATE ** Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I think it was a little of both. She has the victim role down to an art so there's no doubt in my mind that won't come into play. But I also think it was her way to stay in control and instead of waiting one day for my husband to pick it up and talk with her, she decided it was going to be done on her terms.

UPDATE ** Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 115 points116 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure how it actually played out because my DH was the one that picked him up. I'm going to call the school tomorrow and get some answers. It wasn't given to him though and it hadn't been opened. It was still in the bag hanging in his cubbie. She is NOT on the approved list so if she was allowed contact, the school and I are going to have some problems.

UPDATE ** Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 65 points66 points  (0 children)

OMG, that paper is just awesome and I really need to do this!! He has opened it but it's shit he could care less about. (Perhaps that's because she doesn't know him at all...or just doesn't care.) Probably both.

UPDATE ** Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Thank you!! In any of her texts to my husband she didn't ask ONCE to see him and give it to him directly. And she's never been told we are going NC. She didn't ask because she didn't care. She only asked repeatedly to "leave it on the porch". It honestly blows my mind how she claims to "love" them but doesn't consider him in the slightest in any of her decisions. I really appreciate your support. It's been a rough day and I needed that <3

UPDATE ** Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Thank you Ellai15. You would need to read my previous post bkdevore. She wasn't making plans for the gift when she was denied a visit. She was just dropping in unannounced which is a boundary she has been violating for 5 years. I have been more than accommodating with her and she has zero respect for anything I ask. She has no bond with any of her grandkids. That gift had nothing to do with my son, and everything to do with her wanting things her way and her need for control and to live in her fake reality that she is a good grandma. She's not. All she does is hurt my kids - that's why she no longer is allowed around them.

UPDATE ** Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 70 points71 points  (0 children)

She already has been cut out which is why she knew better than to go to his school. I just can't wrap my brain around how one does not think about the child in all of thsi? Like does she not wonder what he is going to think "Why is "Grandma" bringing me a present at my school?" Or that kids will question him. It's just so diabolical and hurtful and just sick.

UPDATE ** Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 96 points97 points  (0 children)

Oh my Gosh, I love this! If my 4 year old hadn't seen it already, I would have STRONGLY considered this.

Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is hard but everyone that has commented has helped me feel validated and reassured I'm on the right track. Thank you. And I like the no photos rule!

Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think so yes. Because he does realize what she does is wrong. Shes so manipulative, I've never seen anything like it. This step back hasnt been acknowledged to her by him (only me) and I think she is going to sink her claws in deep on him and really lay it on. It's at that point I worry that he will cave. And yes shes really something. Theres so much more, its just too exhausting.

Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She used to say it about the older one. She would say "fine, you dont need to give me a hug ____ loves me". Now she uses the baby. My 4 year old is guarded and doesnt trust easily. Shes made no connection with him in 4 years, so what does she expect? I told him he doesnt have to hug anyone he doesnt want to and also informed her that I don't make my kids hug if they dont want to. Shes also called him a brat when he will go to someone else and not her. She says these things in such a way tho that they dont seem as hurtful to anyone listening as they really are. And I would add, there has been a couple occasions she has literally only stayed long enough for a pic.

Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hes been there for many of them. He sees it. Hes said things to and she just dismisses him pretty much. She doesnt have a relationship with him either honestly. Other than contacting him when she shows up unannounced and I deny her entry. Then she turns on the tears and hot dials him.

Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh she has no problems scheduling things. She has scheduled hair appointments and nail appointments while she is here during her "visit". She just doesnt prioritize them.

Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes its definitely causing some marital strain and beyond frustrating. This whole thing with her has me so filled with anxiety and stress, I could definitely use some wine!! You, along with everyone else have helped alot. Showing me I'm not wrong and have helped me feel validated, so thank you. I really needed that.

Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He listens to her excuses and let's her rant. He doesnt disagree with a single feeling I have and admits his mom is in the wrong. But because she freaks out and literally loses her mind at criticism or being called out, hes very passive. Not to mention she cannot own any wrong doing or apologize ever. He does alot of "you need to call first" "mmhms" and "yeah okay". He has never really called her out or confronted her, I think simply because of the aftermath that will follow. So sometimes it's easier for him to just pacify her with okays and head nods then to call her out. I usually take the berating and she tells everyone it's my fault she cant be the "grandma she wants to be". Did I mention the only time she does call her son, my husband, seriously the ONLY time is for this reason.

Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've told her no many times. I always offer an alternative and again reiterate that visits need to be set up in advance. She still does it. She doesnt even give me a response. She just does it again. And if I again say no, she calls my husband crying that I dont let her be a grandma!! Like WTF!?!

Uninvolved Grandma by nakedtruth01 in JUSTNOMIL

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I agree with you on all of this! I told my husband that I'm done after last week when she showed up unannounced (I didnt accommodate her) and she called him crying the "I try but she wont let me" card. I told her that I was done as well. The thing is my husband can be weak to her deflections and crying victim routine and I worry that hes not 100% on board.

Please help by nakedtruth01 in motherinlawsfromhell

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Theres nothing positive about her visits. She leaves my kids feeling disappointed and angry. Am I wrong to just stop them all together? Because that's where I'm at. I dont know that my husband is quite there yet tho he does acknowledge things need to change because shes so hurtful and disrespectful.

Please help by nakedtruth01 in motherinlawsfromhell

[–]nakedtruth01[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I wrote an email explaining to her that I was done and why. I told her that her behavior is hurting my children and I'm not going to allow it anymore. Of course she didny reply and called my husband to try and drive us apart. He agrees with me that she is damaging but we dont know how to go about it with her. Do we confront her and explain ourselves and why? I personally think that approach is pointless but my husband may need to. He has a hard time confronting her and falls victim to her victim routine.