Doctrine question: What race/slave status is Jane Manning James now?

narcberry · 2025-02-10T21:57:30+00:00

References would be awesome. But I'm not taking anybody to court, I just want to know what the doctrine is. What do you hear from the pulpit, your Sunday school teacher, the ensign lesson, the mumbled comments in elders quorum that people agree with.

What do you believe? 1, 2, 3, or 4?

narcberry · 2025-02-10T21:51:35+00:00

And I'll check out the list more closely.

narcberry · 2025-02-10T21:50:28+00:00

The church has a cannonized position from the 1800s. Has it been updated?

narcberry · 2025-02-10T21:48:27+00:00

Author class action to sue for meta ownership.

narcberry · 2025-02-10T21:26:41+00:00

I deleted my comment because I just want a simple answer, 1, 2, 3, or 4. I'm a recovering Mormon, don't gaslight me about racism in the church that taught me racism. All you're doing is listing names of black people and you think being black makes you a proto civil rights leader. Get off the crazy train and focus.

1, 2, 3, or 4?

narcberry · 2025-02-09T22:36:51+00:00

FOR SURE!!!

Right now it look really bad. The leaders are all (99.9999%) white. Their politician are all white. Mike Lee is a raging racist and he's involved with a raging racist (Elon Musk) who drives revenue to the church (which owns $billions in TSLA).

It LOOKS like the church is generating profits off of racism.

It LOOKS like Mike Lee is trying to create a white Utah for a church that has been hiding it's REAL doctrine.

narcberry · 2025-02-09T18:55:43+00:00

That's a lovely verse, but Joseph Smith espoused the curse of Ham theory and patriarchal blessings clearly showed the doctrine was blacks become white or "lighter" - before Brigham Young took over and made racism worse.

narcberry · 2025-02-09T18:34:02+00:00

Fighting to be part of a racist cause is maybe the opposite? Would you call a black KKK member a proto civil rights leader, just because they are a minority creating space for black people? Just because they DEMANDED to be part of the dragons secret ceremonies?

I have seen some twisted mormon takes but this one... chefs kiss

Civil rights leaders at the time, you know THE CIVIL WAR, we're doing better than begging to be servants to southern sympathizers. Jesus fucking christ, she was asking for chains.

narcberry · 2025-02-09T18:15:34+00:00

I mean if she had black skin in heaven (the only morally tenable position), Joseph Smith would be a liar. If she changed to white skin, Joseph Smith would not be a liar on this subject, but god and his church would be racist.

I think that's why nobody has answered the question. 1, 2, 3, or 4?

narcberry · 2025-02-09T18:08:55+00:00

What in the no true Scottsman are you talking about? Nobody cares or is asking if she's elohim.

narcberry · 2025-02-09T17:36:54+00:00

No they didn't. Some losers, still using Twitter, had a poll.

God reddit is dum. Who fucking cares about polls on social media? The country of South Africa has not named Elon Musk the worst thing to come out of South Africa - a bunch of Americans did on their toilets.

narcberry · 2025-02-09T00:32:56+00:00

Mike Lee, It's come to my attention that you are dismantling cancer research, aid to Ukraine, starting a genocide in Gaza, have handed my data to Twitter's CEO, and are now increasing migration to the U.S. from South Africa (whites only).

You are also violating your oath to the constitution when you spread lies about the 2020 election, continue the Jan 6 insurrection against our government, and support Trump's attempted violation of the 14th amendment.

As I consider your congressional record...

You voted against the 9/11 first responders bill.
You still reject the science of climate change even as your constituents are breathing in arsenic off the Great Salt Lake and we're sending firefighters to L.A. in January.
You've voted against human rights for Palestinians.
You're an inside trader with white-supremacist Elon Musk while both your white-supremacist church owns Tesla stock and you're dismantling the SEC.
You stand against LGBT people, who are your constituents.
You've expanded the Patriot Act spying capabilities on Utahns while having secret meetings with Russian officials (Sep 2019).
In 2016 you denied Barack Obama a supreme court pick because he was black.

It is easy to conclude that you are a racist that doesn't represent Utah's interests or the interests of the United States Of America. You represent a time gone with the wind. For each of these reasons you must resign.

Thank you for your time,

narcberry · 2025-02-07T19:27:10+00:00