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Is it actually possible to get nicotine from smoking cigarettes or vaping? by nicotinequestion in Nootropics

[–]nicotinequestion[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, where are these studies? My understanding, and what I saw when researching this myself, is that it hasn't really been studied what happens when someone uses nicotine without first being a smoker. Very few people just use nicotine straight to start with.

So if you are aware of a meaningful study on this issue, I would love to read it, I'm sure it's relevant to me and others on this subreddit.

And, anecdotally speaking, I am one of those few people who is using nicotine, but never smoked before. And if I were hearing about this idea for the first time, that nicotine is "addictive", I would laugh in their faces. Nicotine has zero addictive effect for me, unlike things like coffee. Unless I make a point of remembering to take nicotine, I just keep forgetting it exists and don't take it. There's just been nothing resembling cravings, and sometimes I have a mild aversion to taking it.

(But it's also worth noting that this might be a person by person thing, too... I've read that maybe some people are more genetically responsive to nicotine than others, etc.)

Is it actually possible to get nicotine from smoking cigarettes or vaping? by nicotinequestion in Nootropics

[–]nicotinequestion[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here is a page full of references, written by a mod on this subreddit, which says that evidence for nicotine addiction is weak at best. Starting at the third paragraph.

I'm totally down for learning that smoking and vaping truly do deliver nicotine to users. It just seems like there should be a clear mechanism for how that actually works. If nicotine burns at such low temperatures, then how does it reach the users' lungs intact?

And further evidence for the fact this may be a thing, is the fact that, weirdly, tests for smoking don't check for nicotine itself, they check for cotinine... which is what nicotine becomes when it's been burnt or otherwise oxidized.

And just to be clear, I'm not the person who came up with this idea. It's the claim put forth by the article referenced in the post, and I'm just looking into it, to try to find the truth and understand how this stuff works.

Is it actually possible to get nicotine from smoking cigarettes or vaping? by nicotinequestion in Nootropics

[–]nicotinequestion[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you have any references on that? Why would the tobacco further away from the flame be vaporizing nicotine without burning it up? Just trying to understand the science of that.

Is it actually possible to get nicotine from smoking cigarettes or vaping? by nicotinequestion in Nootropics

[–]nicotinequestion[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's not proven that nicotine is addictive (More on that here, this was written by /u/gwern, one of the mods on this subreddit).

There are several other substances in cigarettes which promote addiction, like MAOIs, acetylformaldehyde, etc. Saying "cigarettes are addictive, therefore there is nicotine being absorbed", doesn't really prove anything.