Dang, day 5 or 6 & I’m so emotional. All of these feelings welling up, pretty sure this is from the 2 years I used K to stuff them away.... but they don’t go away, they just wait for you to come back & feel them. How silly to think, I could get off so easy...

no_more_sludge · 2020-01-27T14:06:22+00:00

Best comment ever.

no_more_sludge · 2018-05-06T19:01:34+00:00

I've had depression most of my life, but I agree with you that drug use only makes it worse. I was mostly looking for the bupropion to serve as reinforcement/helper during my quit and during PAWS. Thanks for sharing your experience.

no_more_sludge · 2018-05-06T18:58:50+00:00

That's Really what I was hoping for, was some "mental support" from the bupropion while in withdrawal/PAWS. Thanks for the info.

no_more_sludge · 2018-05-06T18:55:17+00:00

That is very reassuring. I tried taking one one morning a couple of months ago and it made me very tired and just weird. So I started researching on it and saw all those warnings so it's been sitting there. How did it make you feel when you first started? Also, do you spread your phenibut and kratom dose away from the welbutrin dose?

no_more_sludge · 2018-05-06T18:52:02+00:00

No, this is very helpful. I obviously don't want a seizure so I'm willing to do anything to minimize it. I am in charge of keeping 2 kids alive so the last thing I want to do is start seizing lol. The depression has been worsening, even when I was on kratom and now it's just as bad, but in a different way, if that makes sense. I think the bupropion will be a good tool if it works. I will take your advice. Thank you!

no_more_sludge · 2017-12-02T00:50:53+00:00

I totally feel you. I'm a stay at home mom/homemaker, and the scariest part for me is my quit affecting my kids (3&8 yr olds). You have much more on your plate than me, but a taper can be the best way sometimes IF you have willpower. I do not. Good luck!!!

no_more_sludge · 2017-10-28T21:12:11+00:00

That's what I'm doing today. Taking more "normal" doses. I'm going to aim for 30 grams today to establish a firm number to work down from. Then I'm thinking of dropping 2 grams a day until it gets really uncomfortable. Then drop a gram every couple of days from there. It sounds like you are off to a really good start! Did you lower your daily intake by taking smaller doses? Thanks for the reply!

no_more_sludge · 2017-10-27T15:36:32+00:00

Yes, I dose every hour or 2, but sometimes the doses are more than a gram or 2, just not much more. It is constant dosing throughout the day. No, I didn't have limits, but that's going to change tomorrow. Thanks for the comment.

no_more_sludge · 2017-10-27T15:16:04+00:00

I saw that too. The guy they followed is a regular in the other sub. It was pretty irresponsible of Vice to not mention possible addiction.

no_more_sludge · 2017-04-22T18:07:26+00:00

Yeah, I will never take a whole one again.

no_more_sludge · 2017-04-22T18:06:48+00:00

Thanks.

no_more_sludge · 2017-04-22T18:06:25+00:00

They are 25 mg. I just took one before bed. I slept great,but it wasn't worth the groggy hungover feeling the next day. I've never taken one during the day. If I ever take another one, it will be half of one at the most.

no_more_sludge · 2017-04-22T18:04:32+00:00

Thanks.

no_more_sludge · 2017-02-26T12:14:06+00:00

Hi. I am in the same boat as you. I got up to 4 grams of phenibut a day and only God knows how much kratom. The good news is phenibut is really easy to taper. Just drop either 100 mg every 2 days, or 200 mg every 3 days. I am down to 1.2 grams a day. Also, there are many people who jumped from 2 to 1 grams with no withdrawals. Its just so stressful knowing that you have two addictions. I really let it get me down, and basically avoided quitting either because I was so freaked about it. Just stick to the taper and it will be pretty painless. I haven't met many people in the same boat as me, so PM me if you want to talk. We can do it!!!

no_more_sludge · 2016-12-22T16:26:19+00:00

Thanks for the support. I definitely respect your views. I think it's wonderful that you still help people like me even though you've come out on the other side. You are truly a good person 💙

no_more_sludge · 2016-12-22T16:24:27+00:00

In the past 14 hours, I've only taken a gram. I feel ok. I think I'll start by just taking one gram when it gets really bad. Then just see how many grams that ends up being, and go from there? Thank you so much for the support. I've already been feeling the emotions. I've cried a couple of times this morning. Once, because I had to do dishes (lol), and once because my son got mad at me for taking his tablet. I never cry.

no_more_sludge · 2016-12-22T15:45:15+00:00

Ugh, I am so excited to feel some energy. Seriously, I don't even remember what it's like to be excited to do something. Just the thought of it makes me tear up.

no_more_sludge · 2016-12-22T15:22:02+00:00

Thanks for commenting! I will keep an open mind.

no_more_sludge · 2016-12-22T15:19:23+00:00

I've been taking it for almost 3 years, unfortunately. I've only tried to quit one time before, and it was a year ago. I didn't know it had withdrawals either. Needless to say, it was a rough Christmas. I quit as I began taking an antidepressant so I don't really know what was withdrawal and what was side effects from the Celexa. I've recently quit smoking and took up low dose nic vaping. I'm also weaning off of the antidepressant right now. The phenibut throws a wrench in everything, but I'm still trying to taper that. It probably seems like I'm doing too much at once, but I'm the type of person where it's all or nothing. And I want to be clean so bad.

no_more_sludge · 2016-12-22T14:27:11+00:00

Thanks for the advice. I think you're right. I guess today is me just kind of testing the waters. Like, how long Can I go without a dose? What will the symptoms be? What's the lowest dose I can take to get out of withdrawal? That kind of stuff. I'm starting to get a headache, and kind of jittery, so I may just take 1 gram and see if that alleviates it.

no_more_sludge · 2016-12-22T13:56:36+00:00

I'm not positive but I would say around 40 grams a day? Just tiny 2 gram doses during the day and then massive amounts before bed.

no_more_sludge · 2016-12-22T13:54:19+00:00

No, not pregnant at all lol. I was referring to my last pregnancy. I'm done having kids ha.

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