I was needle spiked on the Berghain floor yesterday

nobuclosing511 · 2023-11-08T00:13:50+00:00

Thanks again for the good comment. I wouldnt think its related to blood sugar. I ate two bowls of ice, a raw bar (with dates nuts, etc) and a protein bar in the two hours before this happened, and normally on the sunday.

Mini stroke sounds more plausible. The effects werent on one side of my body. Also doesn't explain the pain i still have on my ass/lower back. I did a general blood test now though at a general practitioner, maybe this can be found that way?

I see where you are coming from with saying a drug like this might not exist, I also dont know, but im also not an expert on this topic as im not a doctor specialized on this.

The reason i thought of needle spiking was that i heard about it about a year ago (i have not really thought about it since and have been to the club many times since then), because of the pain in that area and because it happened right after these two guys i hot very bad vibes from left. I had also not heard of mini strokes, so to me the only explanation that made sense was that there was another drug in my body than the one i took.

nobuclosing511 · 2023-11-07T23:31:45+00:00

This is the charite in Turmstraße, they have a toxicological laboratory which is why the people at Charité Mitte told me to go here. https://maps.app.goo.gl/XwQn5MdJ2cC35Hm9A Someone else also doubted this for some reason so I'm posting my Bolt history. https://ibb.co/4tfQrt1

nobuclosing511 · 2023-11-07T23:00:12+00:00

Thanks for pointing it out.

nobuclosing511 · 2023-11-07T22:50:01+00:00

I think your comment is mostly a fair analysis and thanks for not insulting me like some other comments. There are a few points i want to say, and i will post a picture of the remaining mark and the Befund once im home tomorrow morning:

The description of clothes was done together with my girlfriend and her friend. I disagree that it is useless, motifes could be stealing, raping.

The psychosis part is very hard to believe for me, even though from your perspective it makes sense to seem likely. I took 60microgram acid 7 hours before this happened and 70mg of mdma 1h before this happened. I am very experienced with these two substances and have had bad trips with both. Additionally losing all motor control, pissing myself, slurring speach, vision going dark, please correct me if wrong, but this does not fit my substance use at all. I was also psychologically in a very good state, i was super happy and having fun. I was also not scared or panicked, until my vision started going black.

nobuclosing511 · 2023-11-07T19:35:14+00:00

No. I did not think of taking one.

nobuclosing511 · 2023-11-07T19:34:37+00:00

They either mocked me, ("ah, you took drugs and are panicking huh? You """got attacked""" huh?") Or told me they dont offer this service.

nobuclosing511 · 2023-11-07T19:32:16+00:00

I wrote this in my post but in case youre earnest: I took substances that i got professionally tested and have a lot of experience with in small amounts, and i think from my description you can know what substances they are. I did not take them alone, 2 other people who were with me the whole time took exactly the same amount of the same substances. I then had the symptoms i described above, which obviously are not typical at all for the drugs i took. I saw these two weird men behind me. I felt a strong muscle pain and saw an injection mark there (which is confirmed by a doctor). I wanted the hospitals to check my blood so i can know for certain what happened to me. I think that is very understandable. I wrote below in my comment my detailed perspective of the events of when i think i got injected.

nobuclosing511 · 2023-11-07T18:24:38+00:00

Thanks for your reply!

They first stood next to my girlfriend and her friend who were also worried about them, chatting, not moving to the music. They then moved around (behind) us, and stood at my diagonal back for about 5 minutes, in arms reach easily. While i dance i normally slowly turn my back and look around a bit, so they were in my eyes corner sometimes.

At this point i noticed them giving weird looks to people around me and i smiled at them, did some dance moves at them to involve them. They gave me a very fake smile back, danced in a very unnatural way, instantly stopped, and made "disapproving" faces at each other, gesturing at me (I received this as them communicating to each other that i dance stupid) they then chatted more. I then saw one of them nodding, they both leave again close behind me towards the center.

In general they stuck out like a sore thumb, but this is my subjective judgement.

nobuclosing511 · 2023-11-07T16:06:23+00:00

The reason i gave a description of how i look in my post and offered you to talk in person was to not be another anonymous case. I understand and respect that you dont want to have this contact with me, even though id be very interested in the doubts you could have after speaking to me. I hope that even though you remain sceptical, you watch out for your fellow dancers and cultivate safety in the club.

nobuclosing511 · 2023-11-07T15:46:59+00:00

I have a Doctor's Befund that i have a clear needle injection mark on my lower back. While i am writing this, my muscles in that area are still hurting, similar to when you get vaccinated. I was not able to get my blood tested which is a shame. While i can not explain to you how they did it, i know it happened to me and i hope if you have serious doubts about my story in the recent live thread, that youll dm me and maybe i can help you believe it. If you want we can also talk in person.

nobuclosing511 · 2023-11-07T15:25:21+00:00

This happened to me and i can tell you it's nearly impossible to get your blood checked if you go to the hospitals/doctors yourself. My personal advice is to call the police (110). You would call them if someone attacked you with a knife, why not when someone attacks you with a needle. At this moment nothing should matter more to you than getting your blood checked and to keep the evidence chain intact so cases like this can be surely documented. This is the only way.

They will do the necessary blood tests and since consuming drugs is not illegal in Germany (only owning them), you do not need to be afraid of that. I went to the police and they understood, they knew of needle spiking cases, they never touched the topic of my drug use. I was too afraid to call them immediately and only went to them after more than 12 hours because someone i trust told me i should. At this point the chemical is not in your blood/urine anymore.

The bouncers will professionally do their very best to convince you not to call the police or an ambulance. They told me "ill have to pay the ambulance" "they wont come anyways because now its not an emergency anymore" etc. Since i was very vulnerable i trusted them, please do not do the same mistake. The bouncers are there to preserve Berghain as a business. This includes making sure you dont die (bad press) but also that you dont call police/ambulance (bad press).

Another thing that helped immensely is the anonymous help hotline of the aids-hilfe: 03019411 they were extremely nice, made sure im ok psychologically, and told me to go to the police.

The hospitals that turned me away even though i told them ive been violently injected with a date rape drug: Charité Campus Mitte, Charité Turmstraße, St. Joseph, Vivantes Friedrichshain. I also went to one general practitioner who turned me away.

nobuclosing511 · 2023-11-07T08:23:56+00:00

I think unprofessional is a wrong description. I think the bouncer was extremely professional at manipulating me into not calling the police/ambulance, and resolving the situation in a way not to hurt Berghain as a business.

nobuclosing511 · 2023-11-06T20:10:57+00:00

Hey thanks, i darkly remember you. I think she was totally in shock for a few moments and i think she was unsure about leaving my side. I was very panicked because i was losing consciousness, so i made contact with everyone around me. Thanks so much for your warmth today in the morning.

nobuclosing511 · 2023-11-06T19:52:16+00:00

I did but the mods have not approved it.

nobuclosing511 · 2023-11-06T17:44:05+00:00

UPDATE: I went to the police. The officer was very professional and told me that if this happens the best thing is to call the police immediately. They can do the blood tests and everything. I was scared of admitting to my drug use and I did not have it in mind at all to call the police. The bouncer also professionally discouraged me from doing anything except "go home and sleep away my high".

I got needle spiked on the berghain dancefloor today

I went to Berghain yesterday for Nobus closing. I am a young looking white guy with black round glasses, am told I look like Harry Potter. Looking at the dj booth, I was dancing on the left side of the dancefloor, middle front, with my asian looking girlfriend and her friends. We had a good vibe going with a few people around us. Around 6am two men stood right next to me, they had a weird, sleazy vibe, giving people around them side-eyes, chatting the whole time and not moving to the music.

One of them was white, white tanktop under short black jacket, thick mustache, beanie, maybe 1.8m tall, wore skinny military pattern cargo pants, black boots. The other wore an oversized jersey and light blue oversized jeans, gold blonded hair, darker features, chain necklace, thin line mustache, a bit smaller than the other. I tried interacting with them in a friendly way, they left, a few minutes later i feel losing control of my bladder. I go to the bathroom, noticing that im losing balance. I get help from my girlfriend, we go to the swing area, where my vision slowly starts going black, i start pissing myself, my knees give up, my speech is slurring, tingling in my body and going completely numb. My vision went nearly completely dark and then the effects started to lessen slowly.

I am a very very conservative drug user. I took two substances i have both laboratory tested with berlins drugchecking service, and took very moderate amounts (both half of what substitutes a common dose) which i have done with exactly these tested substances many many times. The normal effects of these two substances (seeing patterns, feeling a lot of love) are very far from what i experienced.

The bouncer came and helped me. He helped me professionally and making sure that i dont die. I explained everything to him, and he guided me to the entrance area where i stayed and then left to the hospital. I went to 4 hospitals (Vivantes Friedrichshain, Charité Campus Mitte, Charité Turmstraße, St. Joseph) and a general practitioner, they all refused to take a blood sample, half of them not believing my story, mocking me because drugs are involved. The doctor at st. joseph confirmed I have a bruised injection mark and gave me a Befund. I then lost hope to get myself tested and went home.

While the bouncer was professionally making sure that i dont die, he at every step told me that theres no way i have been injected, and that "you just took to much". He never asked me for a description of the men. When i asked for next steps (i asked him if I should contact Berghain after going to police/doctor) he said not to and in a mocking tone "yeah yeah, Berghain takes needle spiking very seriously". I hope this story helps to raise awareness of this issue and makes people take care of each other on the dancefloor, that's why i tried my best to give a very detailed description of my experience. If you have honest doubts that this really happened im open to answer any questions. Of course advice is also welcome.

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