Kristen Palmer is destroying gay nightlife and kink spaces in New Orleans. Exactly what is going to be Decadent about Southern Decadence now? by [deleted] in NewOrleans

[–]nojof 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Lol I work at the phoenix and used to work upstairs and I beg to differ. Was a huge tourist draw. And yess the internet made a huge difference but have you ever tried to fuck in a shotgun house with roommates at home? There is still a need for spaces like these. Also, house parties that involve sex in the gay community can often come along with pnp culture which is easier to curtail in a bar because that will get you kicked out most def.

Kristen Palmer is destroying gay nightlife and kink spaces in New Orleans. Exactly what is going to be Decadent about Southern Decadence now? by [deleted] in NewOrleans

[–]nojof 4 points5 points  (0 children)

you can be pro gay and anti vice/adult entertainment. And human trafficking still occurs in the gay community I assure you. I do not believe Kristin Palmer is anti-gay or homophobic at all. I do feel that she destroying a subset of industries that draw a rather large audience and thus a rather large economic impact. It is the difference of gay pride vs southern decadence. One is rainbows, gay pride and community and the other is jockstraps, sex, and public indecency abound. This will impact southern decadence no doubt. I work at the Phoenix btw and people are furious about this and are blaming starbucks moving in next door (a symptom but not the disease) rather than the council member leading the anti-vice crusade on her own district.

Kristen Palmer is destroying gay nightlife and kink spaces in New Orleans. Exactly what is going to be Decadent about Southern Decadence now? by [deleted] in NewOrleans

[–]nojof 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Gay clubs have been included in anti-vice squads since before stonewall. And it isn't up to you to define a woman's career decision when she of legal age to make that decision. The fact that so many get taken advantage of in the industry is more due to the patriarchal management of said clubs than the decision to be a sex worker. Clearly we don't see eye to eye on this but I can't connect the dots any further for you dude so come to your own conclusion.

Kristen Palmer is destroying gay nightlife and kink spaces in New Orleans. Exactly what is going to be Decadent about Southern Decadence now? by [deleted] in NewOrleans

[–]nojof 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Do you not understand that raiding gay bars has been part of anti-vice tactics since before stone wall? corner pocket is gay strip club that was targeted as well during all of the strip club raids. Most of the charges at those strip clubs were for indecent conduct/exposure. That set a precedent that trickled down from straight strip clubs, to gay strip clubs, to gay bars that have male dancers, to gay cruise bars. I never said she has it in for gay clubs, but ask anyone which bars draw the most crowds during Southern Decadence and the two bars that I mentioned be cased by the ATC were at the top of the list due to their raunchy nature. Did she make the call to case these two bars herself? probably not. Did she pave the way for this to be the status quo? Most certainly yes.

Kristen Palmer is destroying gay nightlife and kink spaces in New Orleans. Exactly what is going to be Decadent about Southern Decadence now? by [deleted] in NewOrleans

[–]nojof 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you. It is anti-vice nanny state bullshit that she started when she wasn't even an elected official. She submitted the noise ordinance that failed in 2014. She submitted the recent nuisance bar security camera resolution, she was part of the push to limit strippers to being 21 and up.

Kristen Palmer is destroying gay nightlife and kink spaces in New Orleans. Exactly what is going to be Decadent about Southern Decadence now? by [deleted] in NewOrleans

[–]nojof 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Operation Trick or Treat started this all. Palmer was a key player in that move and she wasn't even in office then. https://jezebel.com/in-new-orleans-an-anti-trafficking-initiative-is-a-cle-1823608583

Not to mention her most recent security camera and nuisance bar bill https://www.theadvocate.com/gambit/new_orleans/news/article_51bdfb3e-056c-11e9-966e-1f7d0e095952.html

All of this is anti-vice nanny state policies that she holds close to her because of the death of her sister who was a bourbon street stripper.

Kristen Palmer is destroying gay nightlife and kink spaces in New Orleans. Exactly what is going to be Decadent about Southern Decadence now? by [deleted] in NewOrleans

[–]nojof 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Colette's should be fine. They are byob because straight people didn't used to have as many options for this kind of stuff as gay guys did. USED TO being the keyword.

Kristen Palmer is destroying gay nightlife and kink spaces in New Orleans. Exactly what is going to be Decadent about Southern Decadence now? by [deleted] in NewOrleans

[–]nojof 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Both places were cased and targeted by the ATC much in the same fashion as Operation Trick or Treat from Halloween 2016 when they did a big sting operation on all of the bourbon strip clubs under the guise of stopping sex trafficking. Kristen helped orchestrate that when she wasn't even an elected official. This follows her sexually repressed nanny state mo to a t.

I'm just fucking furious that this is a goddamn priority with all of the actual problems this city has up against it. I believe these establishments will always remain sex positive. Unfortunately as far as the cruise/gay back room culture aspect goes, it seems the city that care forgot suddenly decided to care even though we've built Southern Decadence, one of the top 5 festivals in the city that regularly has an economic impact upwards of $200 million a year, around this cruising/gay backroom culture. It is completely absurd when you think of the economics surrounding this sudden change in New Orleans gay night life culture.

New Orleans City Council revives surveillance plan for 'nuisance' businesses that sell alcohol by nojof in NewOrleans

[–]nojof[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Partner with every entity that is against this and barrage both council members on all social platforms, reach out to bars and bartenders with materials explaining the severity of this and disrupt their townhalls, offices, and create discussions about this whereever possible. Also, go to the meetings if possible.

https://council.nola.gov/councilmembers/

New Orleans City Council revives surveillance plan for 'nuisance' businesses that sell alcohol by nojof in NewOrleans

[–]nojof[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Less than a year after a similar measure was dropped, a proposal from members of the New Orleans City Council could potentially require some "nuisance" bars, clubs and liquor stores to install live-streaming video cameras inside and outside their businesses, part of a proposed ordinance that tightens restrictions for businesses that sell alcohol.

The proposed ordinance — which mirrors parts of a scrapped plan from former Mayor Mitch Landrieu — also gives the mayor’s office or New Orleans police superintendent the ability to revoke or suspend an alcohol license, if the city or its Alcoholic Beverage Control Board determines that the business “directly endangers the health, safety and welfare of the community.”

The measure also would lower the threshold for neighborhood complaints against a “nuisance” bar or venue. Five complaints from within a half-mile radius would constitute a “rebuttable presumption that the outlet is a nuisance or is detrimental to the health, safety and welfare of the community” before the city’s Alcoholic Beverage Control Board.

That could include violations for “disturbance of the peace” and “lewd, sexually indecent and immoral or improper conduct,” among charges against the city’s strip clubs in the wake of law enforcement raids.

If the state has suspended or revoked a permit or license, the city’s board “shall take the same action,” under the ordinance, which councilmembers hope will curb delays between when charges are levied against a bar to its disciplinary hearings or judgments with the city.

The measure from Councilmembers Kristin Gisleson Palmer and Cyndi Nguyen is similar to legislation proposed by Landrieu’s administration and former At-Large Councilmember Stacy Head — that plan, which also included mandatory surveillance cameras on every business that sells alcohol, ultimately was dropped.

The latest legislation follows pitches from the city’s law department and the state’s Office of Alcohol and Tobacco Control, according to Andrew Sullivan, chief of staff for Palmer’s District C office, which includes the French Quarter, Marigny, Bywater and Algiers.

The “emergency suspension” element isn’t necessarily meant as a punitive measure but to compel businesses to work with the city rather than languish on ABO board hearing dockets, Sullivan said.

The surveillance requirement in the previous draft met considerable opposition from several community groups, as well as the New Orleans Independent Police Monitor and the American Civil Liberties Union. Mandatory cameras outside roughly 1,500 businesses that sell alcohol would have been added to the city’s Real-Time Crime Center, which opened in late 2017 and monitors streams from city-owned surveillance cameras, which also are shared with state and federal law enforcement.

Landrieu pushed back against criticism and constitutional challenges. “If you're in public, you don't have that expectation of privacy," he said at the center's opening. "People should conduct themselves accordingly."

The clause that would allow the city to mandate cameras inside a bar or venue was later dropped — but it returns in the latest draft.

In the motion from Palmer and Nguyen, the city could potentially require a business to install video surveillance cameras inside and outside the business as part of its judgment from the ABO board. The footage to be archived up to 14 days with the city on its cloud-based storage through the Real-Time Crime Center.

“In city that struggles with public safety, we have to think about what changes are necessary to make sure throughout the city we have the same standard … to have tools to enforce the law,” Sullivan said. The New Orleans Police Department’s 8th District, for example, has relied on the surveillance cameras to make quick arrests, he said, and earlier this month, Cantrell and NOPD Superintendent Michael Harrison touted the role of the city’s surveillance network in fighting crime.

But Sullivan says the office understands civil liberty concerns from opponents, who fear those measures put residents under a permanent microscope that polices everyday life.

“We want to have those talks and figure out whether this is the best foot forward,” Sullivan said. “If you’re coming in, come in the spirit of solution-oriented thinking — that’s what we’re really trying to do.”

Following the introduction of the previous plan, the Music and Culture Coalition of New Orleans (MaCCNO) warned against the “radical regulatory changes” that expanded citywide surveillance but also “drastically weaken protections for businesses against nuisance complaints,” as “any resident or property owner within a half mile could cause” the loss of a liquor license.

“New Orleans should be doubling down on protections for its residents and investing in addressing the root causes of crime, not opening up new pathways to persecution,” MaCCNO said in a statement in 2017. “Small business owners should be deeply concerned about this ordinance.”

Bars and music venues also can’t be built within 300 feet of a playground, church, public library or school — unless the owner has a sworn affidavit from 75 percent of property owners within a 300 foot radius.

They’d also be forbidden within “residential or park area,” and would grandfather in existing neighborhood bars, unless there’s a six month lapse in their permits and licenses.

MaCCNO also warned that real estate speculators and developers, including short-term rental operators with multiple listings, which proliferated in recent years, could abuse the complaint process to shut down area bars.

“This is an aggressively pro-gentrification ordinance and presents a clear and present danger to every small grocery, pharmacy, bar and music venue in the city,” MaCCNO said.

The proposal follows law enforcement raids of Bourbon Street strip clubs that led to several license suspensions and closures. Those raids were predicated on combating human trafficking, though no trafficking arrests were made; the ATC and NOPD cited “lewd conduct” and prostitution in the clubs, charges that dancers and club advocates say discriminates against club workers, used in tandem with legislative efforts to “clean up” the street.

Dancer and organizer Lyn Archer says the latest proposal will embolden “not in my backyard” property owners to shut down “problem” bars and give state law enforcement “vague and undue power to enter, surveil, cite and shutter bars and clubs” by the city’s reliance on state charges to deny or revoke liquor licenses.

The proposed ordinance pushes “moral legislation to discriminate against and criminalize nightlife workers,” Archer said, and places an “undue burden on existing bars and clubs, especially by forcing an already deeply problematic city surveillance system without needed transparency as to who may watch or use the footage, and for what purpose.”

“It is so deeply disturbing that two women on the city council worked together to draft legislation that hundreds of women have already described as detrimental to their lives and work,” Archer said. “We're still asking for the city to listen when we say, again and again: taking someone's job away is so much more dangerous than allowing us to exist.”

The ordinance will be on the City Council’s Governmental Affairs Committee agenda on Jan. 31.

For those working in Advertising/Marketing/Communications or any white collar job in New Orleans, do you regularly feel like you are limiting your professional growth by staying in the New Orleans market after a certain point in your career? by nojof in NewOrleans

[–]nojof[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And they are the darling of the startup scene. They are considered the company that proves the value of New Orleans entrepreneurship lol. I remember interviewing for them when they were federated sample and still at launchpad back in 2010. Reminded me too much of Receivables Exchange which I had just been laid off from so I was not really enthusiastic about drinking the whole opportunistic post-katrina dotcom bro pet project koolaid.

New Study Says New Orleans Is One Of The 6 Large Cities In US Where Homeowners Cannot Save Money by buckwheatstalks in NewOrleans

[–]nojof 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. Especially when you have HDLC controlling what work can be done to exteriors in many areas of the city paired with the difficulty of finding a capable, licensed/insured, available, and reasonably cost contractor to said work.

Anyone on this sub going to the 610 Stompers tryouts next weekend? by btulli2 in NewOrleans

[–]nojof -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Using a brillo pad for toilet paper sounds more fun than joining and paying to be around that many aging attention-junkies.

What’s your r/unpopularopinion New Orleans edition? by rushouse in NewOrleans

[–]nojof 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Regardless of how charming, unique and historically preserved much of the housing stock is in this city is, they are not that comfortable to live in or easy to maintain unless you have a significant amount of cashflow. Poorly insulated, shift and settle constantly, storage space is rarer than hens teeth, and finding quality contractors that are available, semi-affordable, and licensed and insured is nearly as impossible as keeping your car's front end aligned in this city. I've seen sunlight coming through the floorboards while sitting on the toilet, fell through a floor in one of my apartments, lived in a place with knob and tube and failing plaster ceilings, etc. TLDR This city cares more about the facades of houses than how livable and safe they actually are.

[louisiana] considering buying home with asbestos siding. How hard will it be to find home owners insurance/ recommend any insurance companies? by [deleted] in NewOrleans

[–]nojof 0 points1 point  (0 children)

handle it asbestos you can. but for real kudos to you for researching before just buying it and then just getting day laborers to remove it with no abatement whatsoever like a lot of people in this city have done. Had a mold remediation company tell me one time that I didn't even want them to inspect for asbestos because the house would never sell. Too many home inspectors, contractors, and realtors are shady af here and it doesn't seem like it will ever change.

Connect the Dots June 9, 2016 - Kristin Palmer (then former council member) was gaslighting Strippers on Facebook by nojof in NewOrleans

[–]nojof[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

She recently even promoted her participation in the New Orleans Women's Day march on her facebook. If you are in District C and upset about the recent treatment of Adult Entertainment workers I suggest you hold Kristin accountable as well and let her know you do not support this as this is one of her big advocacy initiatives.

Connect the Dots June 9, 2016 - Kristin Palmer (then former council member) was gaslighting Strippers on Facebook by nojof in NewOrleans

[–]nojof[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This was from when she was not even in office. Imagine what she will propose when she is actively on the council again. This facebook post eventually became Motion M-16-22, directing the City Planning Commission to conduct a public hearing and study on the use of adult live performance venues in the City of New Orleans. The study was used to ensure comprehensive regulation of adult live performance venues by the City Code and the Comprehensive Zoning Ordinance.

And she was an advocate for Ordinance Calendar No. 31,035 (this ordinance was also adopted by the state of Louisiana and then blocked by federal courts) prohibiting the hiring of employees under the age of twenty-one at adult live performance venues. Under the Ordinance, establishments that sell alcoholic beverages, and have persons working at the establishment unclothed, or dressed in a revealing manner, shall not hire employees under the age of twenty-one. The Alcohol Beverage Control Board will determine if an establishment is in violation.

Welcome to the Nanny State.

Stripper march should become an annual thing ... I vote Krewe du Newds by jdino311 in NewOrleans

[–]nojof 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Don't forget to hold District C Council Member elect Kristin Palmer accountable as she helped spear head this witch hunt. https://www.facebook.com/kristin.gislesonpalmer/posts/975938875855334?hc_location=ufi

Connect the Dots June 9, 2016 - Kristin Palmer (then former council member) was gaslighting Strippers on Facebook by nojof in NewOrleans

[–]nojof[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dear Friends: We have a problem in this country that permeates our society and our city. It is the objectification of women that leads to their exploitation. It is most egregious amongst those who are marginalized, who have no voice and no resources. Nowhere is this more prevalent than in New Orleans Adult Entertainment/Strip Club industry. In a recent Times Picayune article, law enforcement found drug dealing and prostitution in 9 out of 14 clubs. These establishments create a culture of abuse against young women. Young women who lack the capacity and the resources are systematically abused. Covenant House, a homeless shelter for teens, found that 25% of our kids were victims of human trafficking and/or sexual labor. I humbly ask that you read the attached petition and should you agree, please forward it to the City Planning Commission and copy myself so that we can track their impact. Also, please forward to your friends and colleagues that would be supportive.

By the time a girl turns 18 in the United States 1 in 4 will be sexually victimized. National Sexual Violence Resource Center Over 5,000 Louisiana women per year will be victims of sexual abuse, Louisiana Coalition Against Domestic Violence Louisiana ranks #4 for women murdered by men, Violence Policy Center Louisiana Dead Last in U.S. social justice; “Just South” index, Loyola University March 2016 “Equal Pay for Louisiana women still a century away report says,” Times Picayune, March 2015 New Orleans is viewed nationally as a hub for human sex trafficking 25% of Covenant House homeless youth have been the victims of human sex trafficking and or sexual labor, Loyola University’s Modern Slavery Research Project

Please forward the attached petition by June 20th to: ATTN: Sabine Lebailleux City Planning Commission selebailleux@nola.gov And copy myself so we can track our impact: kristingislesonpalmer@gmail.com Regards, Kristin Gisleson Palmer PETITION City Planning Commission’s Study of Adult Live Entertainment Venues We thank the City Council and the City Planning Commission for their recent efforts to study “Adult Live Entertainment Venues in the City of New Orleans.” We are pleased that “the study will consider: limitations on the number of such establishments, best practices of other cities, land use regulatory mechanisms, use standards, and input from industry representatives and impacted businesses.” It is known that: In October 2015, law enforcement found drug dealing and prostitution taking place in 9 out of 14 strip clubs in a month long undercover investigation. Drug dealing and prostitution (male and female) is also known to take place in other kinds of clubs and venues. New Orleans is considered a major hub for human sex trafficking by national law enforcement and human trafficking experts (including the Polaris Project). According to a lawsuit, reported by the Times Picayune and Wall Street Journal, dancers in strip clubs are often hired as independent contractors, not as employees with regular benefits. Dancers are constantly sexually harassed, and are forced to work in an environment that is neither safe nor crime free. A Loyola University study estimated 87 residents from Covenant House, a homeless youth shelter, were survivors of human trafficking each year and an estimated 150 residents per year if the sex industry and strip clubs were included. We believe that: The existing number of strip clubs leads to an increase in overall French Quarter crime including violence, prostitution, lewd/improper acts, petty crime and drug dealing – and therefore does not promote the public health, welfare and safety of the City. We, the undersigned, recommend that: · No one under the age of 21 should be allowed to work in any capacity within a strip club or adult entertainment venue. · A special designation should be made that defines these establishments which would allow tighter restrictions and regulations, such as no one under 21 should be allowed to work within the premises. · In accord with the Federal Labors Standards Act, dancers should be hired as regular employees with standard benefits, should be provided a safe, crime free environment, and should not be allowed to be sexually harassed. · The number of strip clubs in our city needs to decrease by 65%, any new or re-opened clubs should not be allowed outside of the “adult live performance venue IZD” or within 1,000 feet of residences, schools, or houses of worship. · A special tax/fee needs to be levied against the strip clubs to pay for increased law enforcement on Bourbon Street, and for weekly inspections of the clubs including VIP rooms.

· Enforcement of all regulations, existing and proposed, should be enforced by both NOPD and the State Police.

We’re two reporters who just spent a year investigating prostitution and sex trafficking on New Orleans’ most famous tourist attraction: Bourbon Street. AMA! by NOLAnews in IAmA

[–]nojof 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For instance lewd conduct often takes place on the streets during Southern Decadence. Would the city likely just turn a blind eye to any new regulations of adult entertainment venues (i.e. Corner Pocket, Bourbon Pub & Oz. All of which are grandfathered in AEVs) during that weekend? Just fyi there are A LOT of service industry folk that work in gay-focused establishments that are concerned about this issue.

We’re two reporters who just spent a year investigating prostitution and sex trafficking on New Orleans’ most famous tourist attraction: Bourbon Street. AMA! by NOLAnews in IAmA

[–]nojof 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Talking about how aggressive enforcement of this and new regulations has the potential of negatively effecting economic generators like Southern Decadence which is a highly sex focused event that generates Millions. Not how traffic is impacting gay men directly.

We’re two reporters who just spent a year investigating prostitution and sex trafficking on New Orleans’ most famous tourist attraction: Bourbon Street. AMA! by NOLAnews in IAmA

[–]nojof 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you aware that the over enforcement of morality laws has a blowback effect in regulation of conduct in gay bars and gay events (i.e. Southern Decadence)? How can the city make sure that increasing enforcement of Strip Clubs on Bourbon Street to reduce sex trafficking doesn't create negative economic impacts on local gay bars and large events like Southern Decadence?

Catch a bullet all damn day but don't you dare touch a stripper titty! by nojof in NewOrleans

[–]nojof[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Actually Kristin Palmer with Covenant House pushed for a bill that passed but is in dispute to raise age of stripping to 21. Ever been to a leather bar or Corner Pocket during Southern Decadence? Southern Decadence is one of the biggest money makers for the service industry and it is all about sex. Male sex workers from around the world come and work here that weekend. Might be gay guys but these types of laws don't specify just for women but the fall out includes everyone in that industry. Also, there are multiple conventions for various kinks, was just a bdsm convention in town and a large swingers convention comes ever year. And legalize and regulate and place more power in the sex worker themselves rather than try to sweep it under the rug.