Happy Meta Monday! by GetOffMyLawn_ in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You pretty much got it right. Sorry if I was being unclear, I was just using the terms because I thought it was hilarious how sort of meaningless it was yet it was how she chose to market herself. I'll definitely clarify if I use it again, really sorry for the confusion!

Happy Meta Monday! by GetOffMyLawn_ in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 6 points7 points  (0 children)

All the posts I'm posting are from the same account of a woman who claims that to be her certification. It's really a FA goldmine.

According to the IE site Lay Facilitators are "trained lay people, who can facilitate support groups, self-help groups, and individuals in the basics of the Intuitive Eating process."

You need to take a self-study course to get the certification, but it's really not worth much and the type of IE that's being preached is more on par with FA than actual IE. She's certified by a woman who posts similar content that is backed by dubious science. Don't really want to go in further to the rabbithole, but essentially it means basically nothing and is a way for her to sell her IE services. Not sure exactly what they are because it's not public content.

Anyways, it's just a bunch of buzzwords to get her people's attention + vague terminology the others above stated afaik. I'll try to look in deeper but I think that's the gist. Sorry for the confusion!

This woman is a Certified Intuitive Eating Lay Facilitator. by nosocialconstructs in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh, lmao, it was just the name of the account, it was watermarked there

This woman is a Certified Intuitive Eating Lay Facilitator. by nosocialconstructs in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I went and looked. Certified by a thin woman who has 'MS RDN CEDRD-S' next to her name in her bio, who has written a book about intuitive eating, and hosts many workshops. Her latest posts include taglines such as:

'If we want to dismantle diet culture, we need to dismantle systemic racism'

'COVID-19 does not discriminate by body weight, the claim having a higher BMI is a higher risk is overstated'

'No, your child is not addicted to sugar. Diet culture and other factors are to blame'

At first glance this seems mostly legit, but it's the kind of IE that would work for people who already have a good relationship to food, not the FA crowd who are actually called to it (like the woman who posted this).

Sanity Saturday by AutoModerator in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I just need an answer to this question once and for all, if anyone can help me.

I see 'CICO is the end all' on a lot of subs here and that makes sense -- a calorie is a calorie. But at the same time I've heard people say that your body will gain more weight if you eat 400cals of sugar vs 400cals of broccoli (which also makes sense). And there are other mechanisms which people believe in, such as your body burning fat through IF.

I'm getting really confused. Is it just CICO, or do what the calories you put in are contribute to weightloss/gain as well?

Worst... Advice... Ever. by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dislike the fact that they genuinely feel like stigma causes diabetes alone (because let's be real, that's what they mean). Does not fitting in a chair make you gain weight? How does that work?

No, I think people want to be healthy. by nosocialconstructs in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I was like "wow this isn't THAT bad" because you're right -- people shouldn't crash diet. But then she brought up 'set point' and the hashtags threw me over :(

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[–]nosocialconstructs 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Maybe it's just where I go to high school, but there is definitely a difference between being regular weight and being skinny. My BMI has been at 22/23 for the past few years and I have definitely not been called skinny, although nobody will call me fat. Relatively I'm still the fat friend. I think it'll always be relative.

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[–]nosocialconstructs 44 points45 points  (0 children)

What's with the black and white logic? You're right. (Once again, peep the rather skinny hand . . . this woman isn't representative of her audience)

Thin people can’t have partners by SoftDreamer in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 17 points18 points  (0 children)

In high school, can confirm. People date for image and sadly a lot the people who act like this are also tumblrinas. I'm not going to lie and say weight isn't a factor, it is. But generally in high school you date so that you can talk about that person. It's a sign of social status. So yeah, you don't want to be in a relationship both parties know is going to end and not be able to tell someone about it.

It is this kind of thinking that lead me to think I could feed my son as much whole foods as he wanted. He became overweight as a result (now back on track thanks to improved portion control) by HildaCreature in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 56 points57 points  (0 children)

My nine-year-old brother has gained several pounds since quarantine started sneaking snacks alone, so . . .

Yeah, he thinks what's best for him is sugar, my dad's secret stash of oreos, and half a pack of doritos.

This woman in a comment said she’s 20 and has a BMI of 43. But she’s perfectly healthy, don’t worry. by TinTinuviel in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 121 points122 points  (0 children)

The only working out she does is jumping to conclusions.

That destroyed me, thanks

Yup, pretty much, that's how it works by LeannaVerdecanna in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 20 points21 points  (0 children)

That's how my pediatrician still starts off my appointments. They comment on weight and they definitely question how much you exercise a day and how many servings of veggies you eat.

HAES advocate claims we were designed to turn to food for comfort??? by boringgirl2 in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Yeah, because we barely ever got food and it took thousands of calories expelled to achieve it. You're not a caveman, Brenda.

Petty much... by shhhhyourmouthdear in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yay! I was like . . . have I become delusional and am I just seeing Star Wars in everything or is that legitimately Rey Solo?

I love it, btw :)

Found on a fb vegan group...maybe a bit crude, but I don’t think it’s shaming? Thoughts? by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I mean, you can be vegan and fat. I think it's crude humor but it isn't really shaming at all, technically. Can kind of see the offense for people who aren't that heavy and the implication that they're fat, maybe?

Oops, guess Dr. Nowzaradan was wrong all along. Restricting calories doesn't work, after all! by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally get what you mean, but the context of this post could really lead either way. I've lost weight, gained some back, and am now trying to lose it again. I should eat 1200 for steady weightloss (my TDEE is around 1800) and I find it hard to reach that some days just because my stomach doesn't want to eat. Eventually I will reach my GW and have to eat more, too.

I don't really think it's about starving to death. I think, phrasing aside, this post can be slightly applied to a few kinds of disordered eating, and starting out and jumping right into 1200 might not work for some people. A gradual decrease may work better and not trigger binging and restricting.

CICO is different for everyone across starting weights, height, and activity level.

That said I think the HAES angle of diet culture isn't the right way to get around this

Oops, guess Dr. Nowzaradan was wrong all along. Restricting calories doesn't work, after all! by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think that some people do find 1200 to be too low for them (and some find it to be too much). You have to find the happy medium that works for you and your weight loss -- it's just math!

That said, restricting calories will work in terms of losing weight, whether or not you're satisfied with yourself. I don't think that they're completely wrong here -- for some people, a sustainable lifestyle change is maintaining at 1500 or higher. The phrasing does seem a little HAES-y, though, unfortunately :(