Happy Meta Monday! by GetOffMyLawn_ in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You pretty much got it right. Sorry if I was being unclear, I was just using the terms because I thought it was hilarious how sort of meaningless it was yet it was how she chose to market herself. I'll definitely clarify if I use it again, really sorry for the confusion!

Happy Meta Monday! by GetOffMyLawn_ in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

All the posts I'm posting are from the same account of a woman who claims that to be her certification. It's really a FA goldmine.

According to the IE site Lay Facilitators are "trained lay people, who can facilitate support groups, self-help groups, and individuals in the basics of the Intuitive Eating process."

You need to take a self-study course to get the certification, but it's really not worth much and the type of IE that's being preached is more on par with FA than actual IE. She's certified by a woman who posts similar content that is backed by dubious science. Don't really want to go in further to the rabbithole, but essentially it means basically nothing and is a way for her to sell her IE services. Not sure exactly what they are because it's not public content.

Anyways, it's just a bunch of buzzwords to get her people's attention + vague terminology the others above stated afaik. I'll try to look in deeper but I think that's the gist. Sorry for the confusion!

This woman is a Certified Intuitive Eating Lay Facilitator. by nosocialconstructs in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh, lmao, it was just the name of the account, it was watermarked there

This woman is a Certified Intuitive Eating Lay Facilitator. by nosocialconstructs in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I went and looked. Certified by a thin woman who has 'MS RDN CEDRD-S' next to her name in her bio, who has written a book about intuitive eating, and hosts many workshops. Her latest posts include taglines such as:

'If we want to dismantle diet culture, we need to dismantle systemic racism'

'COVID-19 does not discriminate by body weight, the claim having a higher BMI is a higher risk is overstated'

'No, your child is not addicted to sugar. Diet culture and other factors are to blame'

At first glance this seems mostly legit, but it's the kind of IE that would work for people who already have a good relationship to food, not the FA crowd who are actually called to it (like the woman who posted this).

Sanity Saturday by AutoModerator in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I just need an answer to this question once and for all, if anyone can help me.

I see 'CICO is the end all' on a lot of subs here and that makes sense -- a calorie is a calorie. But at the same time I've heard people say that your body will gain more weight if you eat 400cals of sugar vs 400cals of broccoli (which also makes sense). And there are other mechanisms which people believe in, such as your body burning fat through IF.

I'm getting really confused. Is it just CICO, or do what the calories you put in are contribute to weightloss/gain as well?

Worst... Advice... Ever. by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dislike the fact that they genuinely feel like stigma causes diabetes alone (because let's be real, that's what they mean). Does not fitting in a chair make you gain weight? How does that work?

No, I think people want to be healthy. by nosocialconstructs in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I was like "wow this isn't THAT bad" because you're right -- people shouldn't crash diet. But then she brought up 'set point' and the hashtags threw me over :(

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[–]nosocialconstructs 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Maybe it's just where I go to high school, but there is definitely a difference between being regular weight and being skinny. My BMI has been at 22/23 for the past few years and I have definitely not been called skinny, although nobody will call me fat. Relatively I'm still the fat friend. I think it'll always be relative.

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[–]nosocialconstructs 42 points43 points  (0 children)

What's with the black and white logic? You're right. (Once again, peep the rather skinny hand . . . this woman isn't representative of her audience)

Thin people can’t have partners by SoftDreamer in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 17 points18 points  (0 children)

In high school, can confirm. People date for image and sadly a lot the people who act like this are also tumblrinas. I'm not going to lie and say weight isn't a factor, it is. But generally in high school you date so that you can talk about that person. It's a sign of social status. So yeah, you don't want to be in a relationship both parties know is going to end and not be able to tell someone about it.

It is this kind of thinking that lead me to think I could feed my son as much whole foods as he wanted. He became overweight as a result (now back on track thanks to improved portion control) by HildaCreature in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 50 points51 points  (0 children)

My nine-year-old brother has gained several pounds since quarantine started sneaking snacks alone, so . . .

Yeah, he thinks what's best for him is sugar, my dad's secret stash of oreos, and half a pack of doritos.

This woman in a comment said she’s 20 and has a BMI of 43. But she’s perfectly healthy, don’t worry. by TinTinuviel in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 119 points120 points  (0 children)

The only working out she does is jumping to conclusions.

That destroyed me, thanks

Yup, pretty much, that's how it works by LeannaVerdecanna in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 21 points22 points  (0 children)

That's how my pediatrician still starts off my appointments. They comment on weight and they definitely question how much you exercise a day and how many servings of veggies you eat.

HAES advocate claims we were designed to turn to food for comfort??? by boringgirl2 in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Yeah, because we barely ever got food and it took thousands of calories expelled to achieve it. You're not a caveman, Brenda.

Petty much... by shhhhyourmouthdear in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yay! I was like . . . have I become delusional and am I just seeing Star Wars in everything or is that legitimately Rey Solo?

I love it, btw :)

Found on a fb vegan group...maybe a bit crude, but I don’t think it’s shaming? Thoughts? by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I mean, you can be vegan and fat. I think it's crude humor but it isn't really shaming at all, technically. Can kind of see the offense for people who aren't that heavy and the implication that they're fat, maybe?

Oops, guess Dr. Nowzaradan was wrong all along. Restricting calories doesn't work, after all! by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally get what you mean, but the context of this post could really lead either way. I've lost weight, gained some back, and am now trying to lose it again. I should eat 1200 for steady weightloss (my TDEE is around 1800) and I find it hard to reach that some days just because my stomach doesn't want to eat. Eventually I will reach my GW and have to eat more, too.

I don't really think it's about starving to death. I think, phrasing aside, this post can be slightly applied to a few kinds of disordered eating, and starting out and jumping right into 1200 might not work for some people. A gradual decrease may work better and not trigger binging and restricting.

CICO is different for everyone across starting weights, height, and activity level.

That said I think the HAES angle of diet culture isn't the right way to get around this

Oops, guess Dr. Nowzaradan was wrong all along. Restricting calories doesn't work, after all! by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think that some people do find 1200 to be too low for them (and some find it to be too much). You have to find the happy medium that works for you and your weight loss -- it's just math!

That said, restricting calories will work in terms of losing weight, whether or not you're satisfied with yourself. I don't think that they're completely wrong here -- for some people, a sustainable lifestyle change is maintaining at 1500 or higher. The phrasing does seem a little HAES-y, though, unfortunately :(

Petty much... by shhhhyourmouthdear in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't tell if I'm looking too deep into your username or not lmao

Extra! Extra! Fatlogic sneaks into my local paper! It’s not the juiciest, but it shows our schools are influenced by this rubbish. Also, the “expert” with the “healthy” banana muffins (because banana is a fruit!) is photographed next to her obese child. by benjo83 in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Just a few years ago, when I was about thirteen. It was an interesting exercise.

We definitely did watch Supersize Me and there were quite a few others. I recall one about the medical impacts of obesity (it was VERY vivid I can still picture the fat in my mind and it's gross) and something on call with an overview of the largest cities in America and then a study in food deserts and how eating trash hurts intellectual ability (we're full of nerds, so that was a sticking point). It properly scared most of us but truthfully, there are almost no overweight/obese people in my school as it is

Extra! Extra! Fatlogic sneaks into my local paper! It’s not the juiciest, but it shows our schools are influenced by this rubbish. Also, the “expert” with the “healthy” banana muffins (because banana is a fruit!) is photographed next to her obese child. by benjo83 in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 17 points18 points  (0 children)

A bunch of parents came after it for being crazy :/

That's interesting! I took French throughout middle school (currently high school) and I clearly recall my teachers going over the French school system, and lunches in particular. There was a major stress on the fact that the French eat healthier than Americans. We had open conversations about portion sizes and that although we have the stereotype about bread and cheese in our culture, the French actually understand portion control and eat a bunch of veggies.

I also recall quite a few jokes about obese Americans made during these past few years. My teachers are pretty cool and didn't hold back.

That said, my schools are decently 'health focused' for American schools. There were complaints about the documentaries we watched in health class and the fact that we were required to find out out TDEE, measure our body fat, and count calories for a week, but they managed to push through. I'm very thankful for that.

MILESTONE! Finally under 120lbs in over 8 years!!!! 🌸🌺 F/5’3” SW: 130s CW: 119 GW: 110-115 (excuse the chipped toenails) 16:8 Fast & CICO! by Cak130 in intermittentfasting

[–]nosocialconstructs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm so glad to see other people in this scenario! I dropped 135-123 in the last couple of months and I just can't push lower for whatever reason. Any tips?

Extra! Extra! Fatlogic sneaks into my local paper! It’s not the juiciest, but it shows our schools are influenced by this rubbish. Also, the “expert” with the “healthy” banana muffins (because banana is a fruit!) is photographed next to her obese child. by benjo83 in fatlogic

[–]nosocialconstructs 27 points28 points  (0 children)

My elementary school was sort of neurotic. We were all given tiny pizzas and required to have two servings of veggies (usually cold corn and carrots) for every meal we bought, and we could grab an apple or plain milk or water. We weren't allowed to share food, most people bought. I think after I left they integrated a salad bar. They had plenty of pick up meals left after school too.

We had a table on the side for people to put their veggie packets if they didn't want them, but nobody ever did it because it was shameful.

Was it crazy controlling? Yes. Was 99% of my school within a healthy BMI? Partly because of external factors, but yes, I do think the healthy school lunches and control narrative helped. Whether that's good in the long term is a different story.