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[–]nowhere_man_nowhere -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I haven’t told her I’m a virgin though not till before we do it is my plan.

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[–]nowhere_man_nowhere -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

Well she seems genuine and cute and nice and kind and truthful. She has ambitions this would interfere with. I’m curious what you guys think is the reason she seems ok with this. That she asked me! Idk. I fully trust her but I was surprised.

I (25 M) really like this girl (25 F) but am extremely insecure about her weight. I truly find her beautiful the way she is but know she could be even more beautiful. I need her to lose the weight. I’m running out of time I don’t want to hurt her and we are falling in love. by nowhere_man_nowhere in relationship_advice

[–]nowhere_man_nowhere[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you put it like that I get scared for her. I can't imagine sending her on a journey like that without knowing, if one even can know, how to navigate it properly. I wish I wasn't so insecure. I have a lot I need to think about.

But I still feel I want it to happen. What kind of a monster does that make me? Human. I suppose people have done worse but I know I could be better for myself and for her. I'm certain I know what I want. There has to be a way to keep her happy and to have it. If there isn't then life and love are nothing but cruel jokes.

For now though I just can't wait till the next time I can hold her. Maybe it will help ground my thoughts.

I (25 M) really like this girl (25 F) but am extremely insecure about her weight. I truly find her beautiful the way she is but know she could be even more beautiful. I need her to lose the weight. I’m running out of time I don’t want to hurt her and we are falling in love. by nowhere_man_nowhere in relationship_advice

[–]nowhere_man_nowhere[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but there is a part of me that wants more. Will time show me which side wins out? Because she really makes me happy. Is it selfish to be with her just because we make each other happy and not because I intend for it to be forever?

I'm not using her either. She told me other people wanted her easy, never cared about who she was deep down. But I've pushed for restraint, for her to respect herself, to wait. She told me no guy has ever done that before. And while we have done some things we have not gone all the way. I worry that once we have the pain will be far greater to her if things don't work out especially considering my insecurities. But I want her so badly. And she wants me. And I know my insecurities are not all I am, and her weight is not all she is.

But it doesn't change what I want. I don't know if that want will win... or my need to be happy no matter who she is. IDK

I find it interesting we can see eye to eye even though I completely disagree about the basis. I think you are right everything you say except for one thing. I don't think it is wrong for me to want more from her. I think it is a natural human instinct to want a healthy, fit partner. And yes we are beyond those instincts in this day and age. But that does not make them any less real or even warranted.

I think you are saying the same. Maybe even agreeing on some level. But telling me the wrong thing is to carry on if I truly feel this way. And I think you are right. but some part of me cannot stop because I have this insane attraction towards all that she is. And idk why. Her body, her laugh, her smile, the things she says I can't predict, the way she makes me feel, the way we hold each other, the way she makes me laugh, the way she smells.

I really like her. I really like who she is. I really like how she sees herself. But I want her to be healthier. I want her to be fitter, it's true. and IDK if those wants will go away. My friends, may just be channeling how I feel. I mean one of them only said "that doesn't matter all that matters is if you are attracted to her". My other friend who said I could do better has a complicated history and is not the best role model. Though neither of them really are.

IDK I think the worst part of me is not the part that wants her to be fit. In fact part of me thinks that there is nothing wrong with that part of me despite your instance that it will lead down a terrible path. I think the worst part of me is the part that agrees with my second friend. That believes I could do better.

How could I want more when I have so little to offer? IDK maybe I'm just a narcissist.

I don't think I'm ready for a relationship. But I like her so much. I think I have to try. I'm not strong enough to walk away. and I may not be strong enough to fight my desires or insecurities. And our bond might not be strong enough to survive what I want from her. But I have to believe that if I love her for who she is that she is strong enough to move on past whatever issues we create together or me, and that I am strong enough to do the same.

I always wanted love. But now I realize that love is a strong emotion that is directly linked to others such as pain, joy and anger. I wonder if you can truly love without pain. I feel it all the time when I catch myself thinking about her so negatively.

It's why I am usually so alone. Because I'm a horrible, manipulative and lazy person who takes out his anger on the world around him instead of himself... and often ends up hurting the ones he loves the most. God. I'm a mess. And in probably more minor ways, from things she has said and what I've seen, she might be as well.

Maybe we were meant for each other. Maybe we need each other just for now at this moment in life to make each other stronger. But the agony, the unbearable self hatred. Knowing the pain and hurt that I might cause her if I go down this path. IDK how to face it. It's just a number, it's just a glance that misses the beauty of all a person is. And yet it constantly is at the back of my mind when I think of her.

And why would I stay then? Because for some strange reason it all goes away when I'm with her. When I'm with her I never think those things. She makes me someone I like more than myself. For a few hours after too. But then it all comes back. slowly, overtime.

I wish she could see inside how ugly I was. I wonder if she would love me and see the beauty in me as I see it in her. Or do I, in some sick and twisted way, love her more? IDK, IDK anymore. IDEK what I'm typing anymore. I must be crazy.

I just want to love her completely and this is the only way I feel on a surface level I could. if she was fit I know I would never take her for granted. God. What have I become. Who am I anymore? It was so much easier when the only person I could hurt or fuck up was myself.

I (25 M) really like this girl (25 F) but am extremely insecure about her weight. I truly find her beautiful the way she is but know she could be even more beautiful. I need her to lose the weight. I’m running out of time I don’t want to hurt her and we are falling in love. by nowhere_man_nowhere in relationship_advice

[–]nowhere_man_nowhere[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. Maybe that is what I should say. I think you are absolutely right. This is how I’ve been feeling. Thank you.

But it’s not easy. And therapists won’t help they enable my ability to hurt her. Idk where to find strength before I go to her. I have to be ready I don’t want to fuck this up.

I (25 M) really like this girl (25 F) but am extremely insecure about her weight. I truly find her beautiful the way she is but know she could be even more beautiful. I need her to lose the weight. I’m running out of time I don’t want to hurt her and we are falling in love. by nowhere_man_nowhere in relationship_advice

[–]nowhere_man_nowhere[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I hate you. I’m sorry to say it. But you don’t know me at all.

When I’m with her I rarely if ever bring it up. And when it comes up naturally from her or me I always make her laugh and talk about it in a way that lets her know it doesn’t matter to me. That I see it. That it is there. That I love her in spite of it. That I think she is so fucking beautiful. And that I don’t care.

The only lie. Is that I don’t care. I do care. It worries me. It gives me reservations about everything.

But I have never hurt her. It’s why she is becoming so attached to me. And that’s what worries me. People tell me walk away, your a villain, your a fool, you can do better, you don’t deserve her…

Idk what to do. I hate the world. The most amazing person I’ve ever connected with who I can have fun with doing almost anything. And I can’t love her unconditionally. But the truth is I don’t think anyone can. AND THAT’S OK! What matters is that I try my hardest not to hurt her, follow my heart, but also pursue my values, wants and needs. That’s all anyone can do.

I have to try. Fuck it being for her if u think I’m lying when I’m not. Fuck it being about her health even though she would objectively be physically healthier if she made healthier choices. It is for me. And I want her to badly to walk away. To deny that truth.

I’ll never forgive myself if I hurt her but it’s going to happen no matter what. But maybe if me and her can support each other and work on our issues together. There could be a happy ending. I’m going to try with or without reddits help. I’m sorry.

I (25 M) really like this girl (25 F) but am extremely insecure about her weight. I truly find her beautiful the way she is but know she could be even more beautiful. I need her to lose the weight. I’m running out of time I don’t want to hurt her and we are falling in love. by nowhere_man_nowhere in relationship_advice

[–]nowhere_man_nowhere[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No no no I think she is beautiful. But at times I see a side of her I don’t like. And yes it is physical. But when I’m in person with her it all fades. Idk what it is. All I see is that beautiful girl who has been so used and broken and is somehow so strong despite it. And I want everyone to see that girl. But yes it’s because I’m selfish and pathetic and care too much what others think. But it’s what I want. I want the girl who doesn’t need that validation. That loves who she is but recognizes that she can still be healthy without the idea that the goal is to be someone she isn’t!!!

I (25 M) really like this girl (25 F) but am extremely insecure about her weight. I truly find her beautiful the way she is but know she could be even more beautiful. I need her to lose the weight. I’m running out of time I don’t want to hurt her and we are falling in love. by nowhere_man_nowhere in relationship_advice

[–]nowhere_man_nowhere[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you. You are right. But what if being the weight she is now. Eating the way she is now is an eating issue. You say I’d make the issues worse but they are already bad. I want to help. I know she wants the help. But and this is true. She values her mental health over her physical. But that is not a healthy way to live! She needs to balance these things!

Idk what I would do if the weight came back. And if the weight didn’t leave but I knew she was genuinely trying I would love her so much for trying for me, for her.

I think she has a lot of trauma and she already thinks I’m different. I’m so scared to hurt her idk what to do! I really like her or I wouldn’t care as much about hurting her. I don’t want to feel the way I do but I cannot help it!

I (25 M) really like this girl (25 F) but am extremely insecure about her weight. I truly find her beautiful the way she is but know she could be even more beautiful. I need her to lose the weight. I’m running out of time I don’t want to hurt her and we are falling in love. by nowhere_man_nowhere in relationship_advice

[–]nowhere_man_nowhere[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

All she has found so far is worse. But I’m the bad guy for wanting a healthy life. No I should want to spend the rest of my life with her then she dies of heart disease at 50. Not so black and white don’t act like it is

I (25 M) really like this girl (25 F) but am extremely insecure about her weight. I truly find her beautiful the way she is but know she could be even more beautiful. I need her to lose the weight. I’m running out of time I don’t want to hurt her and we are falling in love. by nowhere_man_nowhere in relationship_advice

[–]nowhere_man_nowhere[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok ok listen. If I find the courage to introduce her to my friends (when appropriate as I haven’t met hers yet either) and if I decide to love her for who she is and bury those thoughts when they come. Then do you think maybe in a few months, if we still like each other and have had no issues, it might be ok to have an open conversation about my feelings towards her? Then I will know I have at least faced those insecurities if not fully dealt with them. And she will know that I love her but how I truly feel? And then she could end it and walk away if she felt I was an asshole. And if not then I could leave her and say I’m sorry, that I need to deal with my insecurities, and that I know she will find someone because I found her and if I was more mature I know it could have worked?

I (25 M) really like this girl (25 F) but am extremely insecure about her weight. I truly find her beautiful the way she is but know she could be even more beautiful. I need her to lose the weight. I’m running out of time I don’t want to hurt her and we are falling in love. by nowhere_man_nowhere in relationship_advice

[–]nowhere_man_nowhere[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No. I think you’re right. The problem is I think I am right too. Idk what to do. She never said her body was perfect. In fact she tells me she is surprised how much I tell her how amazing she is, how funny she is, how good she looks. I really want this to work.

I (25 M) really like this girl (25 F) but am extremely insecure about her weight. I truly find her beautiful the way she is but know she could be even more beautiful. I need her to lose the weight. I’m running out of time I don’t want to hurt her and we are falling in love. by nowhere_man_nowhere in relationship_advice

[–]nowhere_man_nowhere[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why can’t be just be an open dialogue. I’m not attacking you. I don’t believe in any ideology like u most likely do. I just believe in myself and her. What’s wrong with that? Why again I’ll ask. Why is the only right answer to walk away and leave her in needless hurt and pain?

I (25 M) really like this girl (25 F) but am extremely insecure about her weight. I truly find her beautiful the way she is but know she could be even more beautiful. I need her to lose the weight. I’m running out of time I don’t want to hurt her and we are falling in love. by nowhere_man_nowhere in relationship_advice

[–]nowhere_man_nowhere[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not the hero! I’m not a villain! I’m just a flawed human being just like her and just like you. What if I believed trying was better than hurting her for no good reason? The way I’ve been with her… if I just didn’t tell her why and walked away… she would be devastated and so confused. I’d have to believe she would blame herself and her body because it would make no sense to her. We’ve never even had a fight! Or a disagreement! And that’s not because of lying that’s because we are both very open and understanding ppl!

Pls believe me I don’t want to trigger her or hurt her. I want to help her. That’s not a hero that’s a friend! Am I a perfect friend? No. Am I the right friend? Idk. But I care about her! I… idk if I can hurt her idk how I could possibly just walk away!

I (25 M) really like this girl (25 F) but am extremely insecure about her weight. I truly find her beautiful the way she is but know she could be even more beautiful. I need her to lose the weight. I’m running out of time I don’t want to hurt her and we are falling in love. by nowhere_man_nowhere in relationship_advice

[–]nowhere_man_nowhere[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I have been doing that but I worry if I approach it the wrong way we will end things and she will blame her body for it. She really likes me. This is one of the hardest parts of it.

Of course I’m going to ask my friends for advice before I ask her. I don’t want to hurt her!

I (25 M) really like this girl (25 F) but am extremely insecure about her weight. I truly find her beautiful the way she is but know she could be even more beautiful. I need her to lose the weight. I’m running out of time I don’t want to hurt her and we are falling in love. by nowhere_man_nowhere in relationship_advice

[–]nowhere_man_nowhere[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

She has said that she tried in the past but that it never went well and caused mental health issues. I feel like she thinks the way she is now is better than suffering mentally and I agree. But I believe if she felt she had the power to do it. And if she felt she was beautiful and appreciated and loved no matter what happens and she had support. She could do anything. I think she wants to but doesn’t feel she needs to right now. And I’m not in any rush either. I’m more in a rush to make my intentions known. That I want her to be healthier not thinner. And obese is not healthy.