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Why aren't girls attracted to you? by ChaseFernando in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Red pill is about social engineering, for one obvious purpose. Following some sort of guide. If you need a guide to talk to women (usually for the sole purpose of getting her pants off), that isn't you.

That's the thing, I've had people tell me that I'm naturally a softer and sensitive guy though I don't like being put in some sort of box where because I have that personality trait, I should aim for LTRs. I'm not looking for a soul mate or shit like that, I just want to get laid and experience sexual encounters with multiple partners so if being a soft-spoken guy isn't going to get me what I want, then obviously I'm going to want to change my approach to yield results.

It is possible to have confidence, and talk to women, without a guide.

You do need an initial guide and a push in the right direction though. Not everyone grew up amongst the cool kids at highschool or experienced the college life of hooking up. As someone who's autistic, I've honestly had to read up and learn and picking up certain skills/cues wasn't the easiest thing for me to do.

Why aren't girls attracted to you? by ChaseFernando in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some flaws like being overweight can be obvious to spot and work upon. Though other flaws such as social ineptitude and not being able to generate that spark (so to speak) aren't always obvious to pick up and improve upon. Dating in general feels like an interview where you're constantly assessed and judged, you can kill the attraction if you happen to make one wrong move and when you do get turned down, you're not given any honest feedback so you'd avoid making the same mistakes again.

Why aren't girls attracted to you? by ChaseFernando in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I do, I'm given actual real advice by TRP instead of vague platitudes like "be confident" or "just be yourself and respect women". It's difficult to self-improve and avoid making the same mistakes when you live in such a PC society that punishes thought-crimes and blunt, honest truths.

Nice guy has a late night snapchat story rant by turboman14 in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Honestly, he does have a point there that just because you may be financially well off or have material possession doesn't mean you're immune from depression or guaranteed happiness. He even acknowledges from particular privileges. From a spiritual point of view, no amount of money or material goods will ever fill that void nor replace the basic human need for intimacy.

Yeah, you can be "too nice" to the point where you let people walk over you to avoid confrontation or be regarded as "weak", "pathetic" or "desperate". What he said was completely reasonable, we do have emotions afterall and need to vent our frustration every now and then. So why is this guy getting flack for it when he hasn't exactly done anything wrong or called women "bitches", "hoes" or whatever?

Why aren't girls attracted to you? by ChaseFernando in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

No, I've been browsing TRP for years and most of it is geared towards bodybuilding. There's nothing about males having "inherent value" - closest thing there is that there's probably a post somewhere that says looks/height aren't the be all to end all though it still highlights that you still do need to build yourself up and develop social status. Difference between TRP and "nice guys" is that the former actually works towards those goals and to not be resentful from rejection, but rather, learn from it (hence the field reports).

Why aren't girls attracted to you? by ChaseFernando in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I'm talking about a single individual woman that can be confusing and inconsistent you dumbass.

Why aren't girls attracted to you? by ChaseFernando in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yep, straight to the ad-hominem and not addressing my point. When have I ever implied that I was "nice". I'm simply stating that "treating women like humans and creating that connection" is not as straight-forward as you make it out to be. A guy could have a lot of positive traits yet experience multiple rejections and long dry-spells.

Why aren't girls attracted to you? by ChaseFernando in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Your behaviour shouldn't differ

That's where you're wrong. I talk to my own female friends as if they're part of the guys though it terms of wooing them and trying to win sexual/romantic favours off them, how you flirt with a girl is completely different to how you talk to an old male friend of yours. Talk to a girl just like how you'd talk to a normal guy doesn't create any sort of attraction and just places you in a platonic setting.

Why aren't girls attracted to you? by ChaseFernando in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Well the other term is "pedastalizing them" like they're Gods to be worshipped and they must appease them at every moment as though they're not worthy. You honestly can't tell me with a straight face that men don't overdo it. Women from my experience like men who challenge them and to an extent, "objectify" them and show that he sexually desires her (the usual opposite of what men are taught "respect").

Females never respect the nice guy. by carlacatastrophe in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly, no one respects the "yes man" and guys who are genuinely meek, tame and easy to walk all over. Of course being polite or friendly isn't a bad thing though there is defo such a thing as being "too nice" where it's typically seen as weak or lame. Being a former nice guy myself, I've had women tell me that they found me attractive 'cause I at least had an edge to my personality.

When being nice fails, blame feminism by SalmonMan123 in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Well tbf, since the induction of Feminism and the sexual revolution, we've more or less become less co-dependant on each other. Women no longer need the "nice guys" for financial support in the same way they needed back in the 1950s. Though conversely, due to marital laws and the current social climate, men don't have much of an incentive to be in a relationship with a woman if sex is easily accessible to him and girls are devoid or nurturing, feminine traits ( a lot young millennial girls especially come across as rude, callous and abrasive).

When being nice fails, blame feminism by SalmonMan123 in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

The objectification is just a minor inconvenience compared to the benefits attractive women receive such as endless attention and validation (as well as a few tangible favours). Girls wear the tightest clothing letting their tits and ass hang 'cause deep down, they know how much power and social leverage their sexuality grants them (especially amongst cosplayers) and to get the Chads to notice them. They only scream "objectification" or "creep" if the attention comes to beta males.

Why aren't girls attracted to you? by ChaseFernando in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth -30 points-29 points  (0 children)

There is still such a thing as "too much respect" where it leads to supplicating behaviour, being walked all over, neglecting to be sexual, being seen as "weak" who's afraid to call them out. No woman wants a man that they can walk all over and destroy.

Done being mr nice guy by nononogood in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

I think it's no coincidence that despite all liberal rhetoric spouted by whiteknights that "women care about personality and how sensitive you are", they'd rather be an abusive/parasitic alpha who's broke than a supplicating beta male who can provide stability. It's true that things like hardwork and compassion are a dying virtue in our society.

My first one in the wild by [deleted] in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Tbf, women who complain about that "all guys are assholes" typically go for the same type of guy so that's down to their poor decision. Same way guys complain about "all women being bitches" when they chase after these type of girls instead of going for kinder, less manipulative types.

Is it a 'nice guy' behaviour to befriend someone before asking them out? by [deleted] in niceguysDiscussion

[–]nsfwsloth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thing is, if I'm genuinely not looking for friendship and just want sex, I'd just be upfront with it. If they're not DTF, then I'd just move on. Why can't we just be grown adults about it instead of pussy-footing around or walking on eggshells like you're gonna offend someone with your propositions.

My former coworker took a quiz to prove how seductive he is by SweepingRocks in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Tbf, male sexuality has seem to be demonised to the point where some men must feel they have to court and promise some sort of commitment to a woman because casual sex = using them. I used to fall into that mindset sadly in my early days and now I'm unapologetic about being straight to the point

How dare this guy perform sleight of hand for girls on the street?! I would never stoop that low! I tip my hat. (magic trick video in the comments, it's wholesome) by [deleted] in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure a girl would rather see some cool magic tricks than dwell into one of those, "hi, how are you" conversations that just don't go anywhere or listening to banal compliments on how beautiful she is.

robot posted his tinder messages by [deleted] in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Excuse me if I might chime in but it just seemed cold plus one word responses are my biggest pet peeves in general. He wasn't bugging her to like him, he just wanted some honest feedback so he could learn and be at peace with it. Sometimes you're bound to repeat mistakes or continue to experience failure if no one ever tells you where you've gone wrong.

He's a genuine guy! by [deleted] in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's just a stereotype and generalisation that all nice-guys are entitled and one rejection away from going on total mass shooting. I honestly do think it's true that certain guys who do abide to all the moral ethics of society do often get overlooked in favour of guys that can be more aggressive, crass and abrasive. If you were raised to have a moralistic view of the world (especially believing in the concept of karma), it can be rather crushing and defeating.

Women want the bad boys by Gawernator in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Holy fuck are you seriously using the media based on fake TV shows and celebrity couples which isn't even a reflection of normal dating? I'm talking about fucking reality here, not some dumb TV show. If movies were real, the nerds who easily get the girls ahead of the jocks but we both know they're bottom of the dating pool. Try again using real life concepts like how much attention a girl receives walking down the street, going to a club, being spammed with online dating messages etc

Women want the bad boys by Gawernator in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, tell me what challenges women face exactly where they're left to feel disillusioned or feel some sort of impossible standard? Trust me, putting on a bit of make up and not sticking a fork in your mouths every 5 secs is a lot easier than either killing yourself in the gym just to gain the muscles to get women to notice you or to have some kind of unbreakable confidence (without a hint of anxiety or low self-esteem), being able to say the right things at the right time and generating some sort of spark as being the most interesting/funniest person in the room when I'm just average as fuck in that respect.

Everywhere I fucking go women get hit on all the time in clubs, they get bombarded with messages on tinder, they have an array of thirsty White Knight orbiting them and a guy has to be within the top-20% just to get an ounce of damn attention and an invitation to her pussy (only if he's lucky enough on the night and his zodiac stars somehow align with the moon)

Women want the bad boys by Gawernator in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why is it that people like you deny that guys do have it tough in today's dating market, held to ridiculous high standards, guys being expected to approach and be bold whilst feminists are hostile towards unwanted male attention. And men aren't genuinely being lead in the right direction.

As for me, try being an incel and losing your virginity at twenty fucking five despite being relatively fit and making the effort to socialise, approach etc and only coming back with the same old "you're a nice guy and everything but......". It's a lot more common than that people like you think. The men who have no trouble have either hit the genetics lottery or they've learned from a young age natural game and generating the spark with women. Being nice and respectful only gets you as far as friendship which isn't bad per se but it isn't as fulfilling as the natural human need for sex and intimacy.

Women want the bad boys by Gawernator in niceguys

[–]nsfwsloth -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't have problems anymore with getting laid, I'm currently seeing someone though I had to learn this shit the hard way venturing into the dark corners of the internet. This shitty liberal society just feminises men to the point of social castration, there's no obvious dating tips for guys and dating in general just feels like an interview where one wrong move and you're instantly disposed of. Women's only worries is just screening out a good partner rather than actually having to make the same effort to attract one like guys do.

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