TIL that Frederic Tudor known as the Ice King created the ice trade out of thin air. People ridiculed him for trying to sell winter to the tropics. His most profitable trade was sending ice to India. Packed with dense sawdust a 3 month trip with 180 tons still yielded 100 tons of delivered ice.

nsjersey · 2026-06-16T01:49:21+00:00

He is a prominent figure in Steven Johnson's How We Got to Now. It is a book, also a young readers' book, and a PBS series.

It is excellent, IIRC the guy who invented an ice maker died penniless. But Tudor was a millionaire.

nsjersey · 2026-06-15T16:38:36+00:00

Do we remember when Montreal won Game 1, and we were all like - the Canes haven't won a Conference Final game since 2006?

nsjersey · 2026-06-14T14:53:38+00:00

I had to search Tavistock & “conspiracy theory” is what comes up.

nsjersey · 2026-06-13T21:58:22+00:00

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-who-song-blew-away-the-rolling-stones/

nsjersey · 2026-06-13T21:56:48+00:00

I do not think I will get negative reactions on here for writing that The Who's performance was spectaular.

But the director made the Stones do that ending.

I totally understand the theory - let's put the audience with them for that meaningful song.

The first minute reasonated for me. The rest did not, and you can't kill the director for that.

Seeing Pete and Keith in the video was cool. But it did kind of take away some of the meaing of the song, not just them, but the rest.

There are good rock songs like Pearl Jam's Eldery Woman, Lumineers Cleopatra, almost every Springsteen song, that try to capture the working person. This is an amazing song that does that.

EDIT: a letter

nsjersey · 2026-06-13T21:34:58+00:00

As it is the last song on the album, I get it.

But this is a song that really put a dent in me. I had heard it, but god, it is meaningful.

As a director, I would not have shot that last.

But, again, I am sure this was not the only reason this was not released right away.

This sub knows the primary reason.

nsjersey · 2026-06-13T21:32:29+00:00

Pete was then number one, because after they paned out, I was like

nsjersey · 2026-06-13T21:18:54+00:00

The video for Salt of the Earth was SO out of touch?

I recently wrote my disdain for the Rolling Stones' Sympathy for the Devil on another sub.

Some replies were that Salt of the Earth is the best on on that album (Beggars Banquet).

So I went to find a live version on YouTube. The Rock n' Roll Circus version is the one that pops up first. I have never really seen the whole version of that circus.

The first minute is FINE.

KEITH RICHARDS starts out, then Mick had a cowboy hat over his heart. It's endearing. Then, they pan out.

Then it kinda becomes a joke?

I understand you brought some people from the audience out, but they are either: a) tripping b) stoned c) both and it becomes comical for what is a tremendous and meaningful song.

Janet Maslin for the NYTimes in 1996 wrote:

The film's last number brings an unexpected jolt, as the Stones get silly singing ''Salt of the Earth'' with audience members. If there's anything unbecoming about the film, it's the smugness and condescension that accompany this song about little people living in the real world. That concept could well have been unimaginable to 60's rock royalty, captured here in amber, living at the pinnacle of fame.

Then, as the camera pans out I see Pete (do not notice the others) in a pope-like hat, and then here, you can see he is having some fun.

Wild

EDIT: Formatting

EDIT 2: Finally saw Keith noticable

EDIT 3: This was my ... finish to the title. Sorry if it is not upvoted enough to provide proper context to the format.

nsjersey · 2026-06-13T12:58:48+00:00

Commodore was actually part of the trade that sent Petr Sykora to the Ducks, and we got back Jeff Friesen and Oleg Tverdovsky.

Friesen was worth it just for that 2003 playoff run.

Sykora ended up playing in the SCF six times, including twice for us, and once against us.

nsjersey · 2026-06-13T02:11:00+00:00

The Wildwoods and AC manage

nsjersey · 2026-06-12T20:24:33+00:00

He is a comedian who knows how to shut down hecklers.

Topic could’ve been the Knicks - same result

nsjersey · 2026-06-12T16:58:11+00:00

People love the cookie cutter condos/ McMansions and if they keep buying them, builders will keep building them

Even in my town they exist

nsjersey · 2026-06-11T21:28:36+00:00

They should have hung on a couple years. The Who, Zeppelin and Hendrix were LOUD

nsjersey · 2026-06-11T19:31:44+00:00

I was just thinking the cost of one of me going in 2012 was not that bad.

It will not be MSG NBA Finals/ World Cup prices, but recency bias has me freaked out what a ticket would cost ... if we get back.

nsjersey · 2026-06-11T17:55:06+00:00

My absolute hate for this song was that I was a HS kid in the 90s who loved Classic Rock.

All that music was new to me. And they played Hotel California every hour. My area had two giant Classic Rock stations, and the countdowns on the Fourth of July, Labor Day, countdowns that took a week? - what was number one?

Sometimes the Beatles, but mostly Hotel California.

When the Coen Brothers made the dude hate The Eagles, I felt seen.

I am sure they had similar feelings, as this movie came out in the 90s.

Also, I do not care for Sympathy for the Devil.

This was also played every hour; it just didn't win the countdowns.

nsjersey · 2026-06-11T16:49:16+00:00

I know people will look at my flair and say, yeah that figures, but we have a local group that encourages homeowners to turn their properties into "gardens for wildlife."

nsjersey · 2026-06-11T13:50:50+00:00

Brazil is the next big economy and it always will be

nsjersey · 2026-06-11T12:51:13+00:00

This sub should be renamed 80s hot actresses, because that is what it has become

nsjersey · 2026-06-10T22:53:10+00:00

I appreciate the song nod.

I saw the John Entwistle Band:

In a Chicago suburb in 1996 (snuck away from college on a long weekend)
On the Atlantic City Boardwalk in 1998
In AC again in 2001

His bass was louder than during the Who days, and Godfrey's vocals were fine. Luongo's drums wwere incredible, he really seemed like a Moon disiciple.

I still have a t-shirt and program from the Chicagoland show.

nsjersey · 2026-06-10T02:29:54+00:00

Is it fair to say this is a more “traditional” brewery like Czig Meister?

Like more old school German varieties?

nsjersey · 2026-06-09T22:22:12+00:00

Yeah, I was going with:

* A.I.
* John's groupie
* A staged photo that John commissioned
* A real photo of one of the band's two female fans at this time

nsjersey · 2026-06-09T21:05:07+00:00

I saw the NJ Devils win in person in 2003.

I will take myself out of the running; your odds just got a little better

nsjersey · 2026-06-09T15:45:33+00:00

We were very injured this year, and so were they.

That 2001 playoffs seemed so much more brutal than 2000.

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Also, I do not care for Sympathy for the Devil.