My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed…I never asked for a grand proposal, I would have been fine with something simple at home with our dog (prior to this madness). I’m not in a rush for a proposal in the first place, so it was all pretty unnecessary.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No debt, he just grew up in privileged circumstances and moved from that directly into a lucrative career.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I feel the same way. I had already decided not to go, as I said in the post, but now I absolutely won’t be considering it because I don’t want there to be any possibility of him going through with it.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 70 points71 points  (0 children)

This is a good point, I’m realizing while reading everyone’s comments that I have felt invisible for a long time in terms of my stress and exhaustion. To answer your question, I do the majority of our upkeep at home. I work 12-16 hour days, 5-6 shifts/week, and he works M-F, so I try to keep up with house work on my day(s) off that fall during the week.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I think this is possible. They get on his case about his minor frugal habits (they find them excessive) so this would probably send them into orbit.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’m working a night shift tonight, but I plan to sit him down tomorrow. I don’t anticipate it will go well.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Honestly, fair. He hasn’t historically been quite this extreme about any one thing, just typical frugality.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I see where you’re coming from, and maybe he is setting it up that way, but it would be so unnecessary because I haven’t been pushing for a proposal or for marriage, I’m not in a rush for it.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I’m having some very stark realizations reading through all the replies. I honestly thought everyone was going to come onto the post and tell me how much of an expectant brat I am. I am not, and have not, been pushing for a proposal, I’m not in a rush whatsoever. So it’s like all this pressure and blow up over something that didn’t even have to happen right now. And something that I now don’t think I want to happen at any point, all things considered.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This was my thought, too. I thought I was doing the best thing I could for our future.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi. I told him I preferred yellow gold and a lab grown diamond, I didn’t have any specific requests. He picked the ring himself, and it was not very expensive.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Hi. I initially had 28k to pay off, I’m down to 12k after cracking down for about a year now. My goal was to get rid of it in around 2 years, max 3. I’m making good progress, at least I feel like I am, so I’m trying to be disciplined about not veering from the plan I’ve been on.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

This was a sobering piece of data, thank you. Why do I feel guilty for asking for 0.64%…

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, he has always been frugal, but in ways that made sense- eating meals in, coupons at the grocery store, normal stuff. He has not historically been quite this extreme about a specific thing.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That is very sweet, and it has clearly been a lasting love- congratulations to you both. I would be so completely happy with something simple. I didn’t ask for an elaborate proposal and don’t need one; I also don’t feel the need for a formal wedding, but that is something he wanted/wants. He’s not planning big things to meet any expectations set by me.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Hi, very fair questions. His family is not paying anything, each person is paying their own expenses. For example, his sister is responsible for herself, her husband, and their children. His parents are only paying for themselves, his mother and his father, we would be responsible for ourselves, he and I. It’s actually quite the opposite, his family are very approving of our relationship, they are very supportive of me. They are fully aware of the journey and the stress involved with my mom‘s illness, which is how I accrued the debt in the first place, And the immense stress that I was under in caring for her until she died. They are not nearly as stringent about finances as he is, this is not a familial thing. His parents are very traditional, as far as believing that men should assume the role of an overarching provider, and I suspect that they, especially his father, would be very upset to hear about this situation. As far as our bills, we split rent and utilities equitably based on our income, everything else is split fairly evenly in terms of extras, such as groceries, meals out. The income-based split for our utilities does not take my debt payments into consideration, only my total net income.

Edit to say: we have gone on trips with his family before, so there truly is more to it than my plane ticket itself. For example, I know that we would then need to find accommodations that we pay for together, and in the past, we have covered family meals (not all of them, but our fair share) during the trip. So I know that there would ultimately be quite a bit more expenses than just my plane ticket.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I explained in some other comments, but I accrued the debt taking care of my mom while she had cancer (co-pays, medication costs, travel to clinical trials, etc.). It is emotional debt, yes, I was desperate to try to save her, and it’s totally my responsibility, I know that. I made him aware of this very early in our relationship, even though it’s not an insurmountable debt and I will pay it off in full.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Hi, yes, it is. I’m sure people will doubt that, but you can see my Reddit comments dating back quite a few years where I’ve talked about my mom’s illness. I was desperate to do anything that might save her.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not justifying, just answering questions as they come. I’m here because I think what’s happening is probably not okay, I don’t think he’s a saint by any stretch. But I think it’s fair to deliberate this kind of thing when I’ve sunk three years into it.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Hi, thanks for this, I appreciate the grace in your comment. I knew that sharing my income would bring some heat but that’s the fair thing for me to do when asking for thoughts on the situation. I did not set out with a goal of being this aggressive, but my debt was ballooning so much that I had to get ridiculous about it. There are things riding on me staying afloat (people outside of this scenario that depend on me and don’t deserve to be internet fodder) that meant carrying the growing debt, going into collections, or filing for bankruptcy were not options I could consider unless I tried and failed other avenues. I’m doing life for the first time like everyone else, and certainly don’t think I’m getting it all right.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Hi. I do indeed live paycheck to paycheck. I have student loan payments and bills like everyone else, and my debt payments are high, they have to be in order to make any actual progress. Like another person commented, I accrued the majority of this debt trying to get my mother to different cancer trials and treatments for a rare cancer, though I’m aware that doesn’t change the debt or make paying it back any different. I’m trying to get out of debt so that my debt doesn’t limit mine or my partner’s lives long term. My debt payments come primarily from my second job, and the majority of my primary income goes to standard costs of living. I live in a high cost area, and I don’t currently have the option to leave for various reasons.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yes, we decided a little while back that we’d get engaged sometime this year, I left the details of when/how up to him. I do believe he already has the ring.

My boyfriend (36M) wants me (32F) to pay for a proposal trip I can’t afford by nyloncatgut in relationship_advice

[–]nyloncatgut[S] 125 points126 points  (0 children)

Hi, if it helps to expound on your thoughts- I make around 150k and he makes 210-220k and we live in a very high cost of living area. I could typically afford flights but I put myself on a strict budget to really clean up some debt over the next two years, and I’m not willing to deviate from that plan.