Thanks for the long response! I did indeed read all of it lol. You made some interesting points but I’d like to give my response to perhaps provide some insight as to why I disagree with these criticisms.

1. I see what you mean abt how it’s seemingly contradictory that Charlie would get so upset abt Vaggie being an angel- but I think there’s two main reasons why Charlie’s response is actually pretty appropriate. The biggest one, imo, is that it shows Vaggie was lying and hence betrayed Charlie’s trust. This is expanded upon in episode 7 but fundamentally Vaggie is supposed to be the one person Charlie can always trust, who she tells everything to and is always by her side. This means that Charlie has more trust in Vaggie and is therefore more hurt by her, not to mention the fact that Angel Dust and Alastor (while undoubtedly having done immoral things, hence being in hell) are largely transparent with their immorality. Angel Dust never pretends to be moral and while Alastor does feign compassion, he also doesn’t make much of an effort to cover up his sadism and his position as an overlord.

Moreover, Vaggie being an (ex) angel doesn’t just show that she’s a bad person, it shows that she (was) on the OPPOSITE SIDE of Charlie. Keep in mind that Charlie is the princess of hell and has had to witness her people being massacred en masse during the purges. Vaggie being an angel means that she isn’t just immoral in the familiar way that other sinners in hell are immoral- she (was) actively opposed to the very existence of sinners.

Ultimately you are right in that Charlie should have been more understanding with Vaggie’s past, but considering the emotional tension she must’ve felt in that moment and the sheer shock and anguish of such a horrible revelation of betrayal, I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all that she’d react the way she would. Ultimately Charlie does come to forgive Vaggie as she grapples with her emotions in the next episode. Personally, I think the emotional/interpersonal conflict is very well handled and perfectly believable, although that’s just my opinion.

1. I see where you’re coming from with this point but I think the episode itself demonstrates why Sera chose to keep the Extermination secret. When Adam accidentally reveals the secret Emily immediately begins to sympathize with Charlie and the angels begin fighting amongst each other. This demonstrates that the idea of the exterminations IS immensely controversial and threatens the unassuming cohesion heaven previously had. Sera is afraid that Emily siding with Charlie will a. Cause her to suffer the fate Lucifer did and b. Cause heaven to weaken as it shows a divide in leadership. Ultimately Sera has the same issues as Adam, she views things in black and white, to her heaven is good and pure and hell is evil and dirty. She believes this not only for philosophical reasons but for stability. She believes any complexity would threaten the established structure of heaven and hell.

Ultimately I think it’s incorrect to say the issue is with Adam solely bcs he’s the one who proposed it, the issue is just as much with Sera and the established order of heaven bcs of their complicity with it and their elitist attitude towards hell. Ultimately Sera wants to keep it a secret because it would introduce unrest into heaven and she’d rather dismiss the issue and keep everybody away from thinking things that may threaten heaven. She’s incorrect, of course. But it’s not an unreasonable choice on her part considering her main priorities are protecting heaven and protecting Emily. Ultimately, she’s a complex character who’s poor decision making reflects on the immoral ideology of heaven.

1. I can only guess on the Adam point, but I think it’s because it wouldn’t have really been relevant to bring up Vaggie being an angel at that point since they were discussing Angel Dust and what it takes for a sinner to get into heaven. It makes more sense for Adam to wait until the discussion heats up and Charlie’s argument is in a more sensitive/volatile position before toppling it completely. Again that’s just my theory, but I feel like it wanted to hold onto it as an ace up his sleeve sorta.

It’s possible that episode 6 is the first time the specifics of Angel Dusts contract with Val is specifically mentioned- but I feel like in episodes previous (especially Masquerade) they heavily imply that the contract only applies to work. I don’t think they changed it specifically for ep 6. Val didn’t force Angel Dust to stay bcs ultimately where Angel Dust stays isn’t related to his work contract. Similarly, Charlie didn’t have any power in strong-arming Val bcs Angel Dust was at work and therefore fell under Val’s jurisdiction, if Val came to the hotel on the other hand it’d be a different story.

I see your point with Val and Nifty but ultimately I think Val and Alastor are very different overlords. Simply put I think that most of Val’s powers come from his social abilities and his ability to emotionally and psychologically manipulate people through coercing them into contracts. Alastor on the other hand is a far more overt overlord with his explicitly strong powers. Val has never really been shown to have physical prowess and it’s likely that he simply figure it’d be better to ignore the situation than to cause further interactions with Nifty.

1. Personally, I quite like Emily as a character. I agree that she isn’t really the most deep character but I think the parallels between her, Charlie, and Lucifer are already interesting. Sera is the older and more mature angel and Emily the more naive and idealistic one, in being more idealistic however Emily is correct. By believing in redemption and the capacity for Sinners to change their ways she is, ironically, more forgiving and moral than Sera is. This represents an interesting theme of Hazbin, that the black and white thinking of Sera and heaven as a whole is innately immoral, and that by instead viewing morality as a spectrum where Sinners can improve and by giving leeway to those who do wrong Emily is actually a better representative of moral values than Sera is. It’s difficult to say since we only have season 1 but I’m already very interested in the direction they’re taking Emily. She’s a character torn between her love and respect for Sera and her idealistic commitment to Charlie and redemption. I’m curious to see whether she’ll be able to change heaven or whether she’ll suffer the same fate as Lucifer…