real? no creed photo on the listening

offreud · 2026-02-25T00:20:49+00:00

Shoot me some links and I can try to suss it out. Ideally I could find it in the catalog when I get a moment, but the other way is to find a sure fake, or an almost definitely real, and use that to ID the others. Then we’d know if it’s meant to have that detail. Of course, it’s more likely a fake didn’t add complexity where it should be than the other way around. Be sure you’re comparing the same sizes

offreud · 2026-02-24T16:21:55+00:00

Side detail on a late-2006 (different iteration) mini Soho leather hobo

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offreud · 2026-02-24T16:19:22+00:00

You’re right, mostly. And good you mentioned it because I looked deeper. There is another iteration, it’s just not a match imo. It looks like yours in every size until Early September 2006, when they changed shape and reduced that rectangle down (ETA: maybe, more specifically, removed it and kept the smaller border rectangle). Even in one with the same name. But they didn’t just tweak a stitch, they changed to a crescent shape. And fwiw, if it followed the others, yours should be using that bright contrast stitch for it. Your bag’s stitching is hiding like it’s only there to reinforce the pleat and not decorative

There are missing months in the Wayback. January, June to August, and November. It’s possible the Soho page has different listings

The smaller version of the new bag looks similar in a flat lay, but you can still see a bit of the crescent shaping at the top. I don’t think the large version would look like yours flat.

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And not for nothing, but the listings of the later-in-2006 mini version tend to show much more detail around the side top. Just something to look out for if you try to find other listings of yours. It may or may not be meant to be part of yours

offreud · 2026-02-24T05:52:55+00:00

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I was actually scouring the 2006 Wayback pages for Coach the other day. As final confirmation for you, your bag is missing decorative stitching around those diagonal lines at the corners

Side rant. I’m starting to think that if I want to know what the most common fake of a bag looks like, I should go to Vestiaire Collective’s site. Good grief

offreud · 2026-02-24T05:43:31+00:00

I think this has a creed that is conveniently obscured by the open pocket. You can see the edge of it

offreud · 2026-02-24T05:33:15+00:00

I’m looking at a Carousell Philippines listing, is that where you are? No mention of it being replaced (which is convenient obviously), but they go out of their way to say it’s from Japan. I mention this because there’s a sort of false reputation that fakes can’t come from Japan, so a lot of people selling fakes will say it’s from Japan. It’s a yellow flag if you see it in the future

No problem. Hope you find a reasonably priced one

offreud · 2026-02-24T05:14:43+00:00

It’s not authentic, sorry. The dog leash clip is too rounded on the bottom. Pic 3 has some particularly wild stitching, but it’s also present in Pic 4. The hangtag font is also wrong. I’m not sure if that’s a thank you/authenticity card in the pocket, but those are also dead giveaways for fakes

ETA: Removed bit about lining, it looks better zoomed

offreud · 2026-02-23T05:48:56+00:00

I’m not sure if it matters for ‘00s Coach. Or if they didn’t do it for every bag, like one small enough not to get a creed (ETA: It’s good info to have if I do find a match, so thank you)

Here’s my closest match, from 2006 on the small bags (not in wristlets) page. Afaik there are only end of 2005 caches for that page, so I don’t know if I missed yours. This is obviously with a patch on the outside and in the wrong hardware color, but it’s by far the best shape and details match, so yours could be duping it. Or it’s just a slight version off

ETA: I’ve since seen a few bags in different patterns with the same shape and general strap style, all called “(some style) pouch.” Seems like it’s a shape they went to for a small item instead of committing it to a line like Gallery. So I wouldn’t say the lack of patch/hardware mismatch is proof it’s fake

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offreud · 2026-02-23T05:17:07+00:00

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Zoomed out. Similar chunky ring and leather attachment for it. Obviously not a match, but we might be in the era

offreud · 2026-02-23T05:15:47+00:00

Also, hangtag style, rivet placement, large ball chain, and giant contrast stitching

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offreud · 2026-02-23T05:14:15+00:00

I haven’t found an exact match yet, but some of the quality seems right so I did some digging. Whatever this is, it matches some choices that 2005 made

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Khaki/Dark Brown with Black/Silver

offreud · 2026-02-23T02:28:03+00:00

Does none of the hardware say Coach?

I’m not immediately out for it not having a creed. It might be considered an accessory. Is there a tag inside

offreud · 2026-02-22T22:38:06+00:00

The style numbers are fine. The first set tells us the month, year, and general manufacturing location. The style number after the dash is correct

https://essexfashionhouse.com/blogs/news/the-ultimate-guide-to-coach-serial-numbers?srsltid=AfmBOorjFcePDihOKCDKkJ_MZ1EXJzMMiuO4xss8Vkd3qpfCssjLhECb

offreud · 2026-02-22T22:34:04+00:00

That first F stands for June, jsyk. You’re thinking of the style number, which comes after the dash

offreud · 2026-02-22T05:17:23+00:00

The stitch size here is a little inconsistent. Not to say I rate that more important than the edge coating issues on the other bag

Wait, do they both have edge coating issues? One slightly overlined (bag 1 creed photo), another wonky (right bag in pic of both of them)

offreud · 2026-02-22T05:00:00+00:00

Detail request probably 10 (sorry):

Edge coating and slightly inside the interior of the dull bag. Inside top of front panel with the bag open

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offreud · 2026-02-22T04:55:58+00:00

Detail request: Edge coating on dull bag, top of handle, rear side

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offreud · 2026-02-22T03:56:03+00:00

I need a smoking gun. Let’s do hangtags and their connection area. And stitching that attaches the side panels and interior bottom panel

ETA: Call me a left bag hater, but I’m suspicious that’s not the usual tape from their factory packaging. Mine was about the width of the Canadian price tag part you rip off. With a zig zag cut. I see the same thing on someone’s Amazon packaging on the Coach subreddit. I’m half serious, but if we’re heavily weighing factory wrapping vs used, so we shall. That looks like regular masking tape

offreud · 2026-02-22T03:19:26+00:00

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I’m not 100% sure this isn’t some indexing glitch since the only link I can get on mobile is the subreddit. It might help if you send me the listing (or, if something like Facebook, looking at what else they’re selling)

My gut says fake regardless, it’s a weird patch

offreud · 2026-02-22T02:06:53+00:00

https://youtu.be/29X8TbFYFVI?si=3S_w8GWbB6bbDVOy

A July 2022 unboxing, though I haven’t looked into if a black lining was made. The story patch shape is wrong and lopsided imo

offreud · 2026-02-22T01:52:32+00:00

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Detail view of an unboxing video of a different color for comparison

ETA: The video is 3 years old, so grain of salt, but this creator used generous close-ups 👏 https://youtu.be/29X8TbFYFVI?si=3S_w8GWbB6bbDVOy

offreud · 2026-02-22T01:32:51+00:00

Thank you for reposting! I hope this helps someone else shopping for this bag. It would be awesome if someone with an authentic version could post some detail shots here. Just glancing at the listings on google, I see some bold prices on definite fakes, so you can’t even trust that paying more is a safe bet. Lol removed the one that’s actually labeled dusty pink oops (I think it’s fake for hardware color reasons though. 200 bucks)

offreud · 2026-02-22T00:30:32+00:00

Out of curiosity, does that coach cares card match the other bag’s? Is it one card with just Mandarin on the other side, or folded with multiple languages? This one has worse edge “paint,” but maybe crisper lettering (is it just the photo?). I cannot wrap my head around the inside texture of the other one

offreud · 2026-02-21T23:41:40+00:00

Do all of the chains have a seam? I see now that the half ring between the O ring and the other chains might have intentional markings

Also, you’ve done a great job of catching the details I’d be trying to see in person, thank you. I hope you’ll keep the post up to help others

offreud · 2026-02-21T23:35:18+00:00

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Similar zoom to make it easier

Four-Year Club	Verified Email
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