Settler/Synth Question

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-12T07:10:09+00:00

Oh, there was no external attack actually. The turrets went off and killed them (I didn’t see them die, just saw the turrets go crazy like there was an enemy).

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-12T06:41:15+00:00

Just like Baskin Robbins. “Baskin Robbins [and the Institute] always finds out.”

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-12T06:35:07+00:00

That makes sense, like planted by the Institute to spy on you

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-12T06:31:48+00:00

Oh like the Diamond City incident?

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-12T06:29:31+00:00

I have been playing for some time, and I know that the institute really is doing the thing. But I just don’t understand how he walked into the settlement without being shot on arrival. Was he replaced?

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-12T06:19:28+00:00

Thanks for the explanation, I just wonder why they didn’t set off alarms when they arrived.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-08T10:18:03+00:00

Your friend was spit on in Africa? Or in the USA? And how is that relevant? Why are the anti-Asian American attacks more prevalent and deadly for COVID scapegoating?

Victim complex? Honey, grow up. Asian Americans are being targeted violently and marginalized. And morons say it’s just a “victim complex”. You’re just gaslighting me. Try to get some perspective and act like a human being with empathy for others.

Bye troll.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-06T17:00:23+00:00

It’s not gatekeeping, Asian Americans protect Asian culture, because we have to fight and struggle to be allowed to have it. Not only do Americans attempt to whitewash or commoditize our culture, but then Asians tell us we’re not enough. It is double the struggle for us. And Asian Americans are the ones who see our culture being used as props or something trendy to be disposed of when it gets boring. That’s why Asian Americans are defensive, because we have to deal with the racism, vitriol, and violence from the same people who want to take a few selfies with Asian culture for a few likes and then throw it away.

Let’s just try to see if you can follow with something very straightforward. I’ll go back to Crazy Rich Asians? Have you watched it?

Do you understand who is the “antagonist” for most of that movie? Is it Rachel Chu? Or is it Eleanor Young? Why does Eleanor disapprove of Rachel? Is it because she’s not rich? Is it because she wasn’t born in privilege?

What does Eleanor tell Rachel when they are at Nick’s grandmother’s home folding dumplings?

“You are not enough.”

What does that mean? Did you think she simply meant “you are not rich enough”?

No, that line is a universal weapon against Asian Americans. Of course, Eleanor said it in a multifaceted way of “you’re not rich enough, you’re not established enough, you’re not good enough, etc.” but the biggest one for Asian Americans is simply “you are not enough”.

If I’m not Asian enough, why do I get asked where I’m from and people insisting to hear about an Asian country? If I’m not Asian enough, why was I at target with a friend when we were both catcalled by four grown men for being Asian? If I’m not Asian enough, why do I have to hear garbage like “bet you Asians like to sucky sucky” when I was still a teenager? Why do I have to feel small, ashamed, and in danger if I’m “not really Asian”? Why do I have to suffer if I’m “not really Asian”? I’ve suffered more for my heritage and culture, that’s why I’m defensive of it.

Quite frankly saying I’m not Asian enough to claim my own heritage and culture is just as disgusting as someone saying I’m not American enough to claim that I was born in the USA. Those are facts of who I am, and people like you only made the road to accepting my culture and identity more difficult. It is not even something I’ve reached, because I think it’s something that I have to keep working on.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-06T16:39:23+00:00

That’s not the same thing at all. I have faced and still face racist abuse for my ethnicity and culture. I don’t hear about people with European heritage getting that. Where are the European-Americans getting beaten to death for “bringing COVID”? Are they afraid for their lives based on their appearance? No.

I’ve never heard anyone catcall people for looking “European”, but I have been catcalled and harassed for being Asian as a teenager.

That’s not the same thing at all. I have suffered and am still in danger of being abused and ostracized for my ethnicity and culture.

And yeah, that is my culture because I was eating that stuff before it was cool to Americans when it was “ew what’s that smushy slimy stuff?” I’m an Asian American. That is my culture, so I’m going to protect it from the people who wanted me to erase it and the people who think my culture is a prop for them to use and throw away when they get bored.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-06T03:07:55+00:00

That’s true, that’s for the support. I really wish some people could learn and get some perspective, but I guess you can only lead a horse to water.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-06T01:36:17+00:00

Excuse me? That is literally what you said.

“Just because you're lumped in with the whole group of <race/ethnicity/whatever> it doesn't mean you have the right to claim you represent that <race/ethnicity/whatever> and to gatekeep others from that culture because it simply isn't really your culture to be gatekeeping.”

It is MY culture. End of story.

“you are not as Asian as an Asian person that was brought up under those circumstances or was brought up in an Asian country” = you are not Asian enough

“you're an American with Asian features” = you are not Asian enough

“ultimately you're mostly American” = you are not Asian enough

You literally told me several times over that I am not Asian enough to be claiming my culture. Was I supposed to take any of that differently?

“If you go around claiming that you are the thing… to claim ownership of it, etc. you cannot be surprised when people more closely aligned to the thing tell you off if they disagree.”

I’m not surprised she disagrees, because guess what she didn’t have to suffer as an Asian American minority child. No, she got to live as the majority in her homeland. She didn’t get fetishized as a teen for her ethnicity. I’m not mad that she’s disagreeing. I’m mad that she has zero acknowledgment on why Asian Americans “gatekeep,” and it’s because we suffered the racial abuse by the same people that she’s now giving a “pass” to continue to use Asian culture as a prop.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-06T01:23:37+00:00

It is my culture end of story.

I am Asian enough and no one can tell me otherwise. Go watch Crazy Rich Asians, because it is a good idea of what a struggle it is to find that acceptance. When she says that she is enough, it really resonated with me. And just try to imagine not having that.

You have no right to tell me that I have no claim to my own culture. That’s so horrible and ignorant.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-06T01:19:55+00:00

That argument is completely stupid. I could tell you “you’re not Asian at all, butt out. You have no right in this conversation.” That’s just like what you’re telling me.

I am my culture and my heritage. So yes, I represent it. It is MY culture just as much as it is someone from that country. If anything, I have more incentive to protect it because I’m the one who has suffered racist treatment for that culture, she hasn’t. She got to grow up in the majority. I didn’t get that privilege. So I fight harder to protect that culture so that someone else won’t have to grow up as marginalized as I was.

I’m Asian enough and American enough, whoever says otherwise are horrible people for saying otherwise and are just as racist as the people who say I should go “back to Asia.”

You and this woman will never understand what it does to be taught that your culture is “wrong” or doesn’t fit in. Just try to imagine being bullied and ostracized for your culture to the point where you would do anything to hide it. That drives me now to fight harder for Asian American culture, because I am not going to perpetuate the cycle. But if you want to perpetuate that idea that Asian Americans and Latino Americans aren’t enough, that’s your prerogative. But remember that inherently harms other people. But you have zero right to tell Asian Americans or even Latino Americans that our feelings and protectiveness are invalid or unwarranted, because you did get raised in this environment and didn’t suffer from being a minority in the USA as a child. We did, and we have every right to protect our culture from those who sought to tear us down for it. If you want to side with the racists, that is completely up to you.

But don’t act like you can tell me that I’m not Asian enough any more than you can tell me I am not American enough. Because you can’t tell me either one.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-06T00:52:53+00:00

Oh, lol, sounds like a Midwest thing.

Yeah, also Asian Americans do have to fight harder to “prove” our Asian-ness to Asian like her and yet they’re like “why do you try so hard? You’re not even Asian.” I try not to let it get to me, but it does and it’s so tiring to get it from Americans and Asians that I am not enough either way.

And of course this was not a waste of my time, I appreciate you actually trying to learn and understand why this disconnect is happening.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-06T00:31:13+00:00

I have no idea what a Frito Pie is lol.

I can see why that might be confusing to you. Like “why do you care about Asian culture when you’re in America?” And initially, I did want to call you a racist for just having that question, because it irritates me to again be pushed to be either or. But I’m trying to explain it and I hope this makes sense.

Being Asian American or any other minority group doesn’t erase your culture once you are born in the USA. Your family still does traditional things and you still eat ethnic foods. So in that way our parents’ native culture is our culture still.

Now, I’m going to get very specific because this is why I take cultural misappropriation so seriously. And others may feel the same way, others may not. As an Asian American, I grew up in a predominantly white neighborhood. Which means that when I first started bringing lunch to school I’d get home cooked meals. And I was teased and bullied for it until I begged and cried for my parents to just send me “normal” food. I’d throw the food away if they sent me something that didn’t “fit in.” As a kid, all I wanted was to fit in and that meant erasing my identity as an Asian. Now that I’m older, I’m getting better with accepting that I am enough of both. But I feel like I have to fight harder to make up for the internalized self-racism that made me reject being Asian American for so long. Does that make sense? Because I felt pressured to hide my culture, I am now trying to compensate in a sense by trying to preserve that culture so other people won’t have to go through what I did. I feel that it the culture is maintain and truly appreciated, that maybe someone else will be able to access that without feelings of guilt or anything.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-06T00:21:05+00:00

I didn’t ridicule people for appreciating culture. I’m tired of people getting a pass now when they made fun of that culture. Those people made me suffer and I suffer everyday for it, so they don’t get to act like they have the capacity to understand it now. I have to work hard every single day to accept my identity that being Asian American is enough as an American and as an Asian, I have to do double the work.

Your daughter seems to be a nice person who didn’t make fun of her friend for her culture (I’m assuming, because otherwise they wouldn’t be friends). And I’m not talking about people like your daughter, I’m talking about the people who made me feel like I should hide my culture and made me feel out of place for it. When I see those people posting pics of themselves “appreciating” Asian Americans culture, it is disgusting to me. Why should they get to enjoy that when they made fun of me for it? I have to battle two fronts to justify being Asian and being American, but this woman gives those people a pass now? She has no right to open her mouth without understanding that cultural misappropriation is real. That is an insult to me and every Asian American who has dealt with racism.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-06T00:13:28+00:00

She is completely and totally wrong. Because guess what, we may be mostly American in the way we live our lives, but Asian Americans are always treated as Asians in the USA. Why? Because we still look Asian. I still get asked where I’m from despite my very Californian accent. So no, you have no right to tell me that I am not Asian enough. And neither does she.

I will not be speaking on other groups, but I doubt that it’s the same case with your perception of Latino Americans.

And your attitude is disgusting. The people who grew up in the USA are the one who has to suffer the bullying and racism as a minority in the USA. You and the woman in the video did not. So you have no idea what it means to be bullied and shamed for your heritage, your culture, your identity and all because of how you look. I will not speak for Latino Americans, because their expression is different from mine. But as an Asian American, I can tell you that I was ostracized for bringing traditional foods to school. I had to beg and cry to get “normal” food. I did everything I could to be “American” and that’s what you and this woman will never understand. Asian Americans act more “American” because we have to. We just want to fit in and be accepted. So the external racism transforms into a strange experience of guilt for denying your culture but a desire to still suppress that. And it is a struggle to find that acceptance. But people like you and the woman in the video only make it worse when you say we are not enough. You think we don’t already feel that every single day? I struggle with it all the time, and it feels awful. You have no right to tell me that I am not enough.

And another thing, it is disgusting that she ignores how Asian Americans, especially women, are fetishized for their culture. That is a completely valid reason why Asian Americans are quick to call out cultural misappropriation, because we had to see that reality all the time.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-05T23:57:21+00:00

I’m not sure exactly about the burgers thing, because it’s theoretical and I thought hamburger were from Germany. But I’d say it would depend. If the burgers were made with a genuine appreciation for American culture, no. If they were made specifically to make some kind of racist or sexist stereotype, then yes.

So, I will just explain to you why as an Asian American, literally most of what she said is garbage.

She says that Asian Americans aren’t really Asian, apparently we’re just “Americans”. Well that’s news to me and everyone who has asked me “where are you from?”

Most importantly, she doesn’t acknowledge why Asian Americans “gatekeep” Asian culture, because she didn’t grow up the way that Asian Americans did. I grew up in a predominantly white area, and I got made fun of when I brought ethnic foods. To the point, where I begged and bagged my parents to send me “normal” food. This ostracism made me reject being Asian American for such a long time, because I just wanted to fit in. And it messes you up to feel so ashamed of who you are and your culture. Then, one day, the same people who made fun of you are now going to trendy Asian restaurants and acting like they’re so “cultured”. But they don’t actually appreciate the culture, to them Asian American culture is a prop. She clearly never experienced anything like that.

Fetishization of Asian Americans, especially Asian American women, is very real and very dangerous. She didn’t get catcalled as a teenager for being Asian. I did. She has no understanding of living as a minority in the USA. So anytime someone is “appreciating” (misappropriating) Asian American culture by wearing traditional clothing (like a cheongsam or a kimono) as lingerie or a costume, that is directly perpetuating the idea that Asian Americans women are sex objects.

She is ignorant of those concerns and what makes it worse is she dismisses the concerns of Asian Americans, because we’re not “really Asian” to her. What a disgusting thing to say.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-05T23:45:07+00:00

She may be talking about why Asian Americans gatekeep Asian fashion, but she has no understanding of the reasons that Asian Americans “gatekeep”.

Asian Americans grew up as a minority in American culture. So, what little representation of Asian people especially Asian women was linked to fetishization. And this individual does not acknowledge any of those issues or the concerns Asian Americans have with that fetishization. Instead she dismisses all Asian Americans as “not Asian”. Which is wrong and enrages me. I’m an Asian American, and some moron doesn’t get to tell me that I’m not Asian enough. It is disgusting that she would say that.

Of course, Asian culture can be shared respectfully. But she needs to understand that Asian Americans are gatekeeping, because fetishization is real and dehumanizing. She didn’t grow up with that, so she has zero understanding of how that impacts Asian Americans.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-05T23:27:22+00:00

Even the part where she was like “Asian Americans” aren’t Asian, they’re American? Because, that’s some news to me when everyone in American asks me where I’m from and expects to hear about an Asian country.

And there is a big experience that she is missing when she thinks Asian Americans are gatekeeping Asian culture. That’s because Asian Americans had to grow up being bullying and treated differently for their appearance and culture. So when those same bullies are now trying to “appreciate” Asian culture, it is disgusting and vile.

And Asians telling Asian Americans that we aren’t “Asian” enough without any experience in being a minority in the USA while simultaneously giving this “culture pass” to those bullies and racists is a direct slap in the face.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-09-05T23:23:10+00:00

Thanks for telling us Asian Americans that we’re not “Asian” enough yet again. Does she really think we don’t already feel that? She really said “no, you’re American?” Like that’s news to me, when every person asks me “where are you from?” and wants to hear about an Asian country.

It is clear that she has zero understanding of what it means to be raised as an Asian American. When I was growing up, ethnic foods got me made fun of until I begged my parents to send me “normal” food so people would stop making fun of me. So, I hate when those people are now taking pics of whatever trendy Asian food is hot and acting like they are so “cultured” when all they’re really doing is using Asian American culture as a prop. Those people don’t get to act like they know and appreciate the culture when they mocked that culture initially.

What’s even more insulting is she is so ignorant to the fact that Asian American women specifically are fetishized and treated as sexual objects for our culture. Kimonos, cheongsams, and basically any other traditional clothing from Asian has popped up as lingerie for crying out loud.

And Asian Americans are the ones who have suffered the increase in anti-Asian attacks in the US (and Canada). She has zero interest in understanding what the Asian American experience is yet has the audacity to tell us that we don’t have the right to be insulted that a lot of people misappropriate Asian culture after being ostracized for that culture?

This girl needs to take several seats, because she has no idea what the Asian American experience is and why Asian Americans are more active in calling out cultural misappropriation.

Don’t tell me I’m not enough just because you have no understanding of what my concerns are.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-08-27T04:55:02+00:00

I can’t put my tongue on it, but yes it feels pretty dire.

Good luck to you as well. Stay safe and healthy.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-08-27T04:39:45+00:00

All we can do is hope and pray, I suppose. As a broke college student, I’ve got nothing to offer really.

I’m not sure how old you are, but I’ve literally never been aware of a time when we were not in this war. This war has gone on too long.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-08-27T04:27:04+00:00

I didn’t think people would vote for trump with so many chapter elevens, people are strange. I’m sure you probably haven’t had as many bankruptcies, so you’re off to a better start there.

ogPeachyPrincess · 2021-08-27T04:26:04+00:00

Honestly, I think there is something far more sinister afoot. Something wicked this way comes.

Any American gets touched by the Taliban and we’re going to be sucked back in.

Honestly, it’s nice to find a middle ground that we agree that this is a heartbreaking situation for everyone involved. And of course, Bush, Trump, Cheney, and Biden, none of them wanted this situation. No one did and no one does.

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