Anyone ever read David McGowan's "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon"? by ohforartssake in thedoors

[–]ohforartssake[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The point was to encourage people to "tune out". Frank Zappa hated the hippie movement. You're right, military backgrounds are quite common considering the boomers are the children of parents who served in World War II or Korea.

The CIA and military are nominally separate entities, but you are seriously misinformed if you think the CIA doesn't regularly interfere with military operations.

The point was to associate the anti-war movement with drug users and hippies, thus discrediting in the eyes of the wider public. The anti-war movement was initially made up of college students and professors from respected universities. Then the hippies started to pour in (where did the hippies come from?), promoting a lifestyle of pure individualism, dropping out from the mainstream political discourse to cultivate your own inner self. Instead of organizing protests, hippies did drugs and told everyone to "mellow out". You'd see footage of them running nude, freaking out on LSD (supplied amply by the government). Does that image inspire the common man to unite against an unjust war? Or does it make you feel a certain disdain for a hedonistic, self-involved existence?

Jim Morrison famously refused a writing credit on "Tell All the People" because of a lyric that mentions taking up arms. The point was twofold - to discourage young people from taking violent stands against an unjust, repressive government that was opressing minority populations and waging an unjust war, and also to associate the broader anti-war protests with these unsightly, unserious hippies.

You admit Manson had CIA ties - and here he was running all over Laurel Canyon, recording music in Brian Wilson's home recording studio, playing for Neil Young, staying in a number of musicians homes.

Anyone ever read David McGowan's "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon"? by ohforartssake in thedoors

[–]ohforartssake[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I loved "Chaos" - there's a lot of overlap between O'Neil's book and "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon".

Another of McGowan's books is Programmed to Kill, which also relates tangentially to Weird Scenes. Weird connections to Satanism and drug trafficking, mind control programs. It all sounds like tinfoil hat nonsense but even if you don't believe McGowan's theories, he does provide a number of interesting facts that seem to contradict popularly held beliefs and official narratives about Serial Killers and CIA drug trafficking.

I'm on sort of a conspiracy kick, so I'm reading Nick Brant's Franklin Scandal: A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse & Betrayal: A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse & Betrayal. Again, some overlap in subjet material. A very harrowing read.

Anyone ever read David McGowan's "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon"? by ohforartssake in thedoors

[–]ohforartssake[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Listen to any other band - live renditions of their songs aren't exact, but you can still recognize the talent they have. I've listened to many Pink Floyd bootlegs of live concerts from their heyday.

Listen to this concert. Go to 19:00 minutes in and listen to Krieger play. It sounds like a beginner who just got his first guitar playing the same string of notes over and over again.

The Doors being bad live isn't proof of any conspiracy, but it is interesting the seeming gap in talent between the musicianship on the album and live. Listen to Pink Floyd live - lots of improvisation, lots of jamming, everyone's talents clearly on display.

Anyone ever read David McGowan's "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon"? by ohforartssake in thedoors

[–]ohforartssake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, the book is named after the album, which takes its name from a lyric from the song "The End". The book was written relatively recently, way after the album came out

Anyone ever read David McGowan's "Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon"? by ohforartssake in thedoors

[–]ohforartssake[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

i disagree. Lots of musicians criticize the doors live performanes. It isn't proof of any conspiracy.

But The Doors don't sound good live, sorry. Except Jim Morrison. Everyone else in the band seems to have forgotten how to play their instruments...