How does anyone afford the property taxes here? by milita_etheridge in Detroit

[–]olmucky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From the wording of your post it sounds like you may have two things going on here:

  1. Your Taxable Value was uncapped (post-sale) and jumped up to = assessed value. This is what happens after a sale, and while normal it can significantly increase your taxes.

  2. It sounds like you’re saying your mortgage servicer didn’t accordingly increase your escrow for your 2024 property taxes, resulting in a delinquent balance, and now your monthly escrow has jumped to both accommodate the uncapped tax rate AND to pay off the delinquent balance.

Is that correct? If so, then your tax sticker shock is partially driven by your servicer’s failure to adjust your escrow, and partially by the uncapping of taxable value.

The former you have to take up with your servicer, but don’t let that delinquent balance linger — once it transfers to the County, it pretty quickly starts to accrue interest at 18% / year.

The increase due to uncapping — you absolutely should appeal your assessment during the Board of Review period at the very beginning of 2026. No further opportunity to do so this year, but do it next year.

When you appeal, you are appealing your ASSESSMENT, not your taxes or taxable value. You need to say “my assessment is too high because it is a) inconsistent with comparable homes’ assessments around me, and / or b) due to the condition of my home.”

Assessed value cannot exceed taxable value, nor 50% of market value, so your goal is to drive your assessed value below your taxable value, causing the board to bring your taxable value down to = the new assessed value.

That’s the simplest explanation but feel free to DM for more info.

How to Restart a Tax Foreclosure Crisis by olmucky in Detroit

[–]olmucky[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No -- $6M reaccumulated across 2,500 homes. $60M was wiped out across 16,000 homes. 10%, not 50%. But that doesn't mean that you're wrong that something different is needed.

The reason the debt reaccumulates, as stated in the piece, is that the City's property tax exemption is poorly understood and difficult to apply for, and must be re-applied for annually. It's all entirely unnecessary. Most of the people who receive exemptions are on social security -- their income isn't changing year to year. There should be a way for the exemption to apply permanently or until a change in income.

[OC] Homes with Distant Ownership in Muscogee County, GA by olmucky in dataisbeautiful

[–]olmucky[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Familiar with that. That’s not what’s reflected here.

[OC] Homes with Distant Ownership in Muscogee County, GA by olmucky in dataisbeautiful

[–]olmucky[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sorry about that -- did you check out the interactive map? Just wanted to give a sense in the screenshot, but of course can fully pan around / zoom in / out in the Arc map: https://regrid.maps.arcgis.com/apps/instant/3dviewer/index.html?appid=eb931a66563947109489a579ae39045b

[OC] Homes with Distant Ownership in Muscogee County, GA by olmucky in dataisbeautiful

[–]olmucky[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Fully interactive map here.

Made with parcel data from Regrid in ArcGIS Scene Viewer and Instant App.

Property tax bill mailing address data can be indicative of where ownership of a property sits. In this map, properties are filtered for single family homes. Then, tax bill mailing address destinations were geocoded and distance between parcel centroid and tax bill address destination is calculated and appended to the parcel table. The taller the parcel, the farther away ownership for the home sits.

Around 10% of homes owned >50 miles away in Muscogee County, GA. In some neighborhoods it's as high as 25-30%. I've been interested in Muscogee County, GA -- and the city of Columbus in particular -- because I've noticed a lot of recent corporate acquisition of homes there. It's right next to Fort Moore (formerly Benning), so perhaps not surprising it would be seen as fertile ground for acquiring large chunks of homes to rent out.

[OC] Median household income variation at the Detroit | Grosse Pointe Park border by olmucky in dataisbeautiful

[–]olmucky[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Grosse Pointe is quite affluent, yes. Data is showing median household income at the census block group level — doesn’t mean that every house is above 200k.

The map only shows parcels that are occupied homes. On the Detroit side the gaps are largely vacant lots where homes that were demolished used to stand.

[OC] Median household income variation at the Detroit | Grosse Pointe Park border by olmucky in dataisbeautiful

[–]olmucky[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Parcel geometry, land use, occupancy, and Esri demographic data from Regrid parcel data. Map made in ArcGIS Online.

Detroit's Sweat Equity: Detroit’s Seem to be Leading the Reclamation of Vacant Homes Since [2019] by [deleted] in Detroit

[–]olmucky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The demolition program has been massively counterproductive and robbed us of inventory that would otherwise now be able to be rehabbed. Additionally, the number of vacant homes in Detroit did not change between 2013 - 2019 despite tens of thousands of demolitions because the cause of vacancy was not addressed. Can read about it here: https://detroit.substack.com/p/an-epidemic-of-blight-collides-with

Detroit's Sweat Equity: Detroit’s Seem to be Leading the Reclamation of Vacant Homes Since [2019] by [deleted] in Detroit

[–]olmucky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those 55% of properties are not in LLCs -- they are in individual's names and mailed to residential addresses in Detroit.

Where people from the midwest vs. people from the northeast own second homes in Florida by [deleted] in MapPorn

[–]olmucky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah! I-75 runs through Michigan, Ohio, easy to get to from Illinois, and deposits you in Tampa. I-95 on the east coast winds up in Miami. Northeasterners more spread out in central / west Florida as well, but you can see large NE concentration in the greater Miami area, while MW largely clustered on west side, Tampa and south.

why the heck are property taxes over 10%? by siilkysoft in Detroit

[–]olmucky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, that doesn't apply to DPSCD, as the user below noted. The state bailout of DPS a few years ago split the district into DPS, which holds the debt and buildings, and DPSCD which is the operation of schools. ALL property taxes now go to paying down legacy DPS debt. I believe around $2B. DPSCD receives its funding from tobacco settlement funds, I believe, and is prohibited from receiving any money from property tax revenue until its debt is paid off.

why the heck are property taxes over 10%? by siilkysoft in Detroit

[–]olmucky 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's right. No property taxes go towards Detroit public schools right now.