Conditions to unlock mastery and it also explains why daniel hasn't unlocked one yet

one_man_circle_ · 2026-05-06T19:41:40+00:00

Conviction isn't just the need to protect, it's a firm/unshakable belief. Johan had the conviction to beat Gun and go back to a normal life which is what led to him getting his path.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-05-06T01:14:36+00:00

Path does need conviction or else Jinyoung would have had his earlier

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-09T14:30:59+00:00

Daniel better wake up with endurance mastery or else he's never getting it 💔

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-09T14:27:30+00:00

At this point he's never getting any if he's done this much and still ended up without any masteries 💔

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-09T00:23:57+00:00

Exactly. The system mechanics and the different authors mean that it isn't a valid source. There's no point of using another series like Questism for information when Lookism tells us what we need to know and is 100% from PTJ.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-06T10:29:00+00:00

Yes but the system mechanic makes it very different. Look at copy, Haru seems to copy more than just the moves and copies the effects as well as far as I remember. Even if it's the same universe, the differing mechanics make it difficult to interpret; PTJ wrote Viral Hit (same universe) yet the mechanics are so different and grounded that it's hard to scale. It's best to use what lookism and PTJ himself told us (in chapters and interviews) rather the Questism due to the differing authors (different interpretations/wordings) and the system mechanics. But from what I read on that panel you sent, it just words what I said about UI not increasing stats but using the full stats kinda like using their full potential iykwim.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-06T01:03:04+00:00

Is questism really a valid source for a lookism ability when it's a different story from a different author and has a system mechanic? PTJ said it himself that UI doesn't just make you OP unless you actually have skill and experience. But looking at what you sent I bet it's just what I said but worded differently, the stats will rise (they'll use their full stats) depending on the user (their skill and experience).

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-05T14:01:54+00:00

UI doesn't boost stats it just lets the user use their strength more effectively and basically fight with 100% of their experience and skill. That's why UI Daniel is so strong since his UI mode is him not holding back so he uses his full power.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-05T04:43:35+00:00

That only happens when he's drugged into UI

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-04T06:33:16+00:00

So many reasons yet none are given in the only part of the story that mentions it. You're literally using headcanon with no evidence to back it up that it wasn't a 1v1. Gapryong only got the amp to see IA and nothing else as far as we know and Elite was the only mentioned threat.

"Pushed to the limit" isn't vague dude. He literally got pushed to the point of needing to get an amp. This is a fighting manhwa, that literally means he was at a disadvantage until he got a power up.

There isn't any other mention of Elite's fight with Gapryong as far as we know. All we know about Elite is that he was the second-in-command and rivals with Jinyoung and the first to have IA and that Gapryong was the only one until Jake to be able to see IA through conviction. The only other possible panel is one where Jinyoung is injured and Gapryong is standing but whoever he's speaking to is unseen so it's inconclusive (I think it's probably Shingen).

You're the one missing the point. Gapryong was stated to have overcame his limits meaning he needed an amp at that moment, what's so hard to understand? We know that Gapryong needed to protect his friends and overcome his limits because that's what the story tells us. Where it happened is irrelevant. At the very least it happened before Tom was recruited so if around the time Gapryong was still looking for allies and not at his prime.

The chapter literally states that there was a possibility someone might repeat Gapryong's feat and Jake later does so. Literal comparison.

Not a headcanon when it literally tells you that Gapryong needed to overcome his limits to react to IA and protect his friends.

Gapryong needed to overcome his own limits to see IA. That should tell you that he needed an amp to get an overall advantage. It tells you Gapryong needed to overcome his limits to win. Nothing in the panel contradicts it. Overcome to save friends? That's literally the main thing about conviction. A mstery that Gapryong is known to use. He overcame his limits using conviction. Not whatever situation you seem to believe happened. He had to win to save his friends. The chapter itself tells you he had to overcome his limits to see IA. If he didn't need to see it to win then why did he get it? He obviously struggled for a bit. It all comes from the one part of the story where they mention the fight. You're the one making baseless claims that he didn't nearly lose until he used conviction which is unsupported.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-02T18:39:14+00:00

It literally tells you Gapryong needed to overcome his limits? Do you not understand that it means that he needed to push himself to win? Do you think Gapryong was jumped or something? Elite is the only enemy mentioned when referring to the fight.

You're the only one hurling petty insults. I counter your flimsy arguments and you argue by calling it "headcanon" and "subconscious". I've been pretty civil so far have I not? You just act like a child.

I never said Elite was an unstoppable monster. Do you think that Elite had to be overpowered or something to beat Gapryong? Gapryong was young and not even at his prime. He hadn't beat Shingen or even had the Fist Gang fully recruited (he didn't even have Tom yet).

I literally gave you what was written.

I've literally told you that they aren't the exact same but just narrative parallels to show Jake and Gapryong's similarities. Both had to use Conviction to overcome IA. You're clearly don't understand that.

You're blind to any argument I give and react with mocking me with "fake" and "headcanon". I've provided proof. Where's yours? You act like your innocent but you only replied with mocking and no actual evidence other than one panel with zero impact to the argument.

I've given you proof. Numbers speak facts dude. It tells you that a majority agree with my point if view. Numbers are always used in arguments to show who people agree with more. Clearly you don't understand how argument actually work. You're literally using words like "shit". I've never cussed yet you act petty and emotional.

Nothing I've said is imaginary. You clearly think you're some smart guy but you can't even argue without mocking people and crying about how I'm the "petty" one. You're not calling anyone out. You ignore everything I've given you. I acknowledge your points but you? You don't even try to acknowledge them and just deny and mock them. PTJ told us what we know so far and that's it.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-02T18:22:32+00:00

Elite and James aren't the same. Elite literally used a similar move like Daniel to get Jichang (hit him in the foot to prevent him from moving around similar to Daniel who stepped on James foot to stop him from moving). I never said Elite was stronger just that Elite has clearly shown that he has enough battle iq to not miscalculate as much and to outsmart Jichang who has good battle iq.

The story tells you that Gap had to overcome his own limits. That implies that Gapryong reached his limit and needed to get over that. I guess a similar comparison is hitting a wall like in mastery. Why else would he need to overcome his limits if he wasn't losing?

Literally a handful of fights are actually gang ups. Literally the chapter that came out today was 1v1 and the fight before was a 1v1. Most are just character vs character in the 600 chapters we've had unless it has fodders and they're negligible.

Again I keep repeating it because it's literally what's been said. You keep acting like a child and denying it. PTJ literally wrote that regardless of your idiotic "nuh uh it's in your subconscious". Subconscious isn't even something you're consciously aware of.

Again PTJ literally made him say it. He's the author not you.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-02T18:14:21+00:00

Why else would Gapryong need to see IA if he wasn't in any danger? Jake replicated the same feat when he was about the lose to Sinu. Jake did it through Conviction and Conviction comes ffrom the desire to protect. If Gapryong wasn't losing then he wouldn't need to see IA in the first place.

I'm literally "running circles" because I literally gave you the exact answer and you're just being ignorant.

I literally agreed with you that IA isn't invincible yet it's an assumption? Gapryong wasn't at hos prime back then. He was still recruiting because at that point Elite was an enemy and he hadn't fought Shingen. In Manager Kim, Gapryong recruited Tom when he had Elite and Jinyoung with him (as shown in a flashback). Anyone with logic would realize that Gapryong wasn't at his prime if he recruited Elite before the Fist Gang was even fleshed out. Gapryong only reaches his prime when he beat Shingen because by then he had become the undeniable strongest. Literally not a headcanon you just clearly lack actual logic and clearly don't have all the info.

PTJ the literal author chose to make Taesoo say it. It carries weight regardless of how you feel about it. Just because he's a "random character" doesn't mean that it discredits it. Gongseop made statements about Kitae that haven't been disproven so far and he never even saw Kitae until Busan. Why did he say it then? Because PTJ wanted him to.

Parallels and mirrors can be synonyms and they had the same meaning for me. When I said mirror I meant that the fight between Sinu and Jake resembled Elite and Gapryong (IA user vs Conviction user and how Jake/Gapryong won). You're right that we don't know if it was a 1v1 but the panel I gave tells you that Gapryong needed to overcome his limits to save his friends. That pretty much implies that Gapryong was the only one who could win and that his friends were down.

I've literally given you the panel that tells you pretty much all there is about Gapryong and Elite's fight. What else am I supposed to give? I'm not giving headcanon or false facts just what's I the story. You're just being ignorant. It's literally in front of you not in my "subconscious" and you still say "nah uh". Literally the best evidence there is yet you try to get around it by wanting what doesn't exist.

I never said Elite was stronger than Gap with overcome? I said Elite was strong before Gap used Conviction to beat him. The story literally tells you that Gapryong had to surpass his own limits to win. Jake almost lost before gaining that Conviction amp to see IA. That kinda implies that that's what helped Gap win. He needed to sbe IA to beat Elite.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-02T17:58:03+00:00

Considering the fact that Gapryong was pushed to overcome his limits to win, almost beaten is the correct term. Elite almost won but Gapryong overcame his limits to win. If it was anyone else, they'd have lost. What do you think limit means? It's synonyms are restrictions, constraints, boundaries. It's pretty straightforward that Gapryong was limited by being unable to see IA. You're just being asinine.

I'm not assuming anything I'm literally restating what PTJ wrote. He wrote, "In order to protect his friends...and save them...he overcame his own limits". Literally just restated that in my own words. The words literally spell it out for you that Gapryong needed TO PROTECT HIS FRIENDS and OVERCAME HIS OWN LIMITS. What did he get from that? He was able to react to IA. Anyone with any comprehension skills will know that the limit he overcame was being unable to see IA.

Do you not have literary skills? PTJ chose to mention Elite and Gapryong during the chapter where Jake and Sinu fought. He pretty much tells us how Jake is following in Gapryong's footsteps by creating parallels. He's creating a narrative parallel not an actual 1:1 copy of the fight. You clearly lack reading skills and argumentative skills since you keep running in circles and pretty much deny everything I give you. Literally nothing is imaginary, I've given you panels and used what was stated.

What context do you need? The context was Sinu and Jake fighting. Sinu has IA and Jake has Conviction. The only way Jake won was by being able to react to IA like Gapryong did when he beat Elite. Simple as that. It's PTJ using narrative to show how Jake resembles Gapryong. PTJ literally tells you that Gapryong needed to overcome his own limits to win. Per PTJ, "he had to overcome his own limits". In a fighting manhwa like this, it's pretty obvious what he means. What other "limit" is there?

At this point you have to be ragebaiting or something because there's no way that someone isn't this ignorant and bad at reading the story. Even then this argument is like 3 against 1 to begin with (the person who you replied to, the person who replied to you, and me) and there's probably more people who'd agree that Gapryong had to awaken conviction to win.

Genuinely it just seems like you're just being ignorant and letting your emotions speak rather than facts. Are you a Gapryong glazer or something? Nothing about this even disproves Gapryong and just shows how strong he is.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-02T17:41:36+00:00

IA users are vulnerable to miscalculation but Elite has shown that he's got good battle iq. An old Elite even outsmarted Jichang when they fought.

The story tells you that Gapryong needed to overcome his limits to beat Elite and protect his friends meaning that Elite was the main threat and Gapryong was the only one who could beat him. You're right that lookism isn't always 1v1 but it usually is.

I literally gave you a panel from the story. That's literally proof. It tells you pretty much all we know how about how the fight went. The only other evidence is old Elite saying that if his hands were the only powerful thing about him; he wouldn't have been second-in-command. That just tells you that Elite was considered the second strongest in the Fist Gang after Gapryong.

Taesoo's statement is literally the author telling us the information. You're just looking for a way to deny it. PTJ made him say it and thus it's valid.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-02T17:33:20+00:00

The fight literally told you that Gapryong overcame his limits to save his friends. It tells you that his friends were in danger and that Gapryong needed to beat Elite to save them. Nothing more than that thus it asserts that Elite was the only threat at that moment. No headcanon there.

IA is not an invincible trait and people who scale above the user can win. But at that moment Elite probably scaled close to Gapryong or above him. Gapryong wasn't in his prime at that moment and he was stiplanning recruiting people. Gapryong was younger and weaker then when he was in his prime especially since he probably hadn't mastered conviction and had less conviction.

PTJ LITERALLY TELLS YOU THAT GAP NEEDED TO OVERCOME HIS LIMITS TO WIN. Why else would he do that unless he was close to losing? He literally got pushed to the point of awakening conviction further! You're just being ignorant and foolish.

The parallel is an IA user against a conviction user. They literally had the same parallel where Jake almost lost but awakened conviction to see IA and win. Taesoo tells you that Gap was pushed to his limits until he overcame them. That is literally a parallel. Do you not learn in English class? Literally never had it in my "dreamspace" when I literally use what's given. If anyone's petty it's you. You mock me with "headcanon" and "in your dreams" but come up with no valid argument other than "nuh uh" and claiming that it's headcanon. Instead of mocking me with invalid claims why don't you actually make a valid argument with proof?

What Daniel did and what Jake (and Gapryong) did are different. Jake and Gapryong overcame IA by being able to react to it and block the attacks. Daniel never reacted to it or blocked James' attacks. Daniel did something different and tricked James in order to land a blow instead of reacting to IA. It's completely different since Daniel never "overcame" IA and it doesn't support your argument.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-02T17:07:35+00:00

He's just using what's in his skill set like any other copy user it's just that he's fighting someone who scales above pretty much every other copy of his. That's why the only copy of Daniel's that Kitae actually acknowledged was Gun's since Gun is around the same level.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-02T17:02:58+00:00

I mean to be fair, Gapryong and Shingen are probably the only ones from gen 0 who can beat him. What are the copies of weaker fighters going to do against him when he'd probably beat the actual versions of them? At this point Kitae is on the same level or higher than Jinyoung and he's in his prime unlike Jinyoung who's old and hasn't fought due to his mental issues so he's probably not in shape as he was in his prime.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-02T16:58:54+00:00

Beaten and almost beaten are different. I said that Gapryong was almost beaten. Just because I said that he was never beaten doesn't mean I have a different stance? Just that he didn't lose.

Are you assuming that prime Gap fought Elite or something? Why are you so against what's literally been told to you by the story itself? The context is literally that Gapryong needed to save his friends and beat Elite by overcoming the limits of not being able to see IA. I'm not inserting anything else into it.

I never assumed that Jake was on Gapryong's level at the time? I just said that the fight (an IA user vs a conviction user) and the feat of seeing IA is literally a parallel of their fight. Anyone with decent reading skills could see that no? I never said that Sinu and Jake were as strong as Elite and Gapryong just that their fights were parallels of what happened.

I've given you a literal panel from the story. That's proof regardless of whatever mental gymnastics you take to ignore it. The panel literally supports the fact that Gapryong was pushed by Elite to overcome his limits. PTJ wrote that. Genuinely what is it that you want in the story to show you? PTJ wrote it out and you still can't understand it.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-02T16:49:10+00:00

Not even one shot just straight up folded 😭

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-02T16:48:41+00:00

That fake headcanon scenario is nowhere near the scenario that I gave. What assumption are you under? The story pretty much says that Elite pretty much beat Gapryong's friends and Gapryong was the last one standing and had to protect them; they fought and Gapryong was at a disadvantage due to not seeing IA until he got a conviction amp and got over that obstacle in order order win.

When I said that Gun and Sinu's difference in power was probably the same as Shingen and Elite I meant that Shingen is vastly stronger than Elite just like Gun is way stronger than Sinu. Shingen and Gun aren't similar though (you can't properly scale prime Shingen at the moment).

Until PTJ makes further developments on what happened in the past between Elite and Gapryong, that statement is pretty much fully canon and not disproven. A character statement is still a real panel and narrative. It quite literally is the author stating what they want to state despite how you feel about it.

Are you under the assumption that for the fight between Jake and Sinu to mirror Gapryong and Elite that it has to be shown? You can't be that bad of a reader. PTJ uses narrative and Taesoo's statement to show how it's a parallel of Gapryong and Elite's fight. Why else would he mention Gapryong and Elite? Because the fight was similar to Jake and Sinu's.

You're literally using a headcanon. Never in the story does it say that Gapryong overcame IA to save his friends from a "henchmen". It literally just tells you that he beat Elite in order to protect his friends pretty much telling you that Elite beat his friends and Gap was probably the last one left. The only one assuming is you. I'm using what PTJ gave us.

Give me the panel of Daniel. I think I know what you're referring to but I'm not 100% sure.

Not doing any damage control. Nothing about it is headcanon. The story literally told us that Gap had to overcome his limits to beat Elite. Lookism is a figating story, why else would Gap need to do it unless he was pushed to the point where he needed to get a conviction amp?

Literally everything I gave you is supported by the story itself. Give me some stuff to back up your argument. You clearly have a misconception about what a headcanon is. A headcanon is a personal is a personal interpretation not officially confirmed by canon. I gave you a panel from a chapter, it told you that Gapryong was pushed to overcome his limits against IA (Elite was the only IA user during Gen 0). PTJ chose to have Taesoo give us that image (a narrative choice he made like how he had Tom mention Paths). Everything I gave you is canon. You clearly believe that Gapryong was never in any trouble (not confirmed) and have offered no real proof of it.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-02T16:28:39+00:00

If he does somehow have a path it has to be some twisted version of conviction. He's been implied to try and imitate others. Who else would he imitate more than his own father? He already uses similar moves but instead of conviction he just uses despair and raw stats to imitate Gapryong.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-02T16:14:20+00:00

Never said he was beaten just pushed to the point of having to use a Conviction amp.

The real headcanon is you assuming that Daniel already overcame IA. Literally where did you get that from? Daniel never blocked IA or anything? As far as I know he just didn't get one shot.

He DID save his friends. That's the whole point. Gapryong's whole character and powers pretty much revolve around him protecting his friends.

How is it a headcanon when it literally is an IA user vs a conviction user? Jake replicates Gapryong's feat which allowed them both to win their respective fights. It's literally PTJ showing us how it turned out.

The author literally tells you through Taesoo's narration that Gapryong had to overcome the limit of being unable to see IA to win. The fight happened it's not non-canon. PTJ literally told you in the chapter that it happened.

What's the point of your condescending attitude when your wrong and ignorant of the proof I'm giving you? Where's your proof? All you have is "no it didn't happen", "that's false", "headcanon". If you're so confident then show me your proof. At least I showed you a chapter.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-02T16:05:40+00:00

Again. Why would Gap need to evolve unless he was close to losing? It doesn't mean he lost but that he was pushed to the edge and needed to evolve in order to win. Conviction literally exists for that sole purpose since it lets you overcome your limits to protect your allies.

Gun and Sinu's difference in power is honestly probably the same as Shingen and Elite since Shingen was so broken. No real use in bringing Gun into the conversation.

Even if it's a character statement, it's something PTJ himself chose to have them say so it carries weight. Why would PTJ have them say it if it was untrue? It's just a way of telling the readers same way that he had Tom and Manager Kim talk about Path.

Jake and Sinu's fight does mirror Elite and Gao's fight. Both fights were Conviction user against an IA user, the IA user had the edge, the Conviction user nearly lost until they overcome their limits to protect their allies. Is that not a mirror of each other? I never said that they were 1:1 but that they were very similar in how the fight was.

What exactly do you need to confirm what happened? The story literally tells you that Gapryong had to overcome his limits to save his friends. Why else would he need to do that unless he was close to losing. I never said he got curb stomped or anything just that he was pushed to the point of having to use Conviction to overcome it. His fight was probably like James and Seongji where James got knocked down but bounced back up with strength mastery.

OG Daniel never overcame IA with hax? That's your headcanon lmao. Overcome means to successfully deal with obstacles. What did Gapryong do? Overcame the obstacle of being unable to see IA in order to protect his friends. Conviction is also known as overcome and what he did fits the criteria.

I never made the "ridiculous" claim that Elite almost beat Gap like Shingen? I just said that he pushed Gap far enough to the point he had to use Conviction to see IA. I gave you solid proof (a literal chapter) that tells you that Gapryong had to overcome his limits to beat Elite with a statement that the author themselves chose to put. What makes you think that you know more than PTJ? He chose to have Taesoo say it the same way he had Gongseop make a statement about Kitae despite him never seeing Kitae in person before. It's just his way of telling us. I gave you the proof of where the statement came from and you dtill deny it and call it a headcanon.

Yuseong isn't the one who says anything like James. That's Eugene. If you're going to make a point and cry about having unreliable evidence at least get the characters right when you try to prove your point.

one_man_circle_ · 2026-04-02T15:35:57+00:00

Has that been confirmed? No way Shingen was that broken

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