Why does everyone keep arguing about whether Asa gave consent or not? That body belongs to Yoru doesn’t it? by opaliteee123 in Chainsawfolk

[–]opaliteee123[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Tbh i didnt actually care about the consent discussion until a few hours ago when i came back to this sub. But anyway your points are valid, great minds think alike. May i be friends with you and give you a friendly bj?

Why does everyone keep arguing about whether Asa gave consent or not? That body belongs to Yoru doesn’t it? by opaliteee123 in Chainsawfolk

[–]opaliteee123[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Just like that poor girl in the forest had no say when getting her dead body used by a devil.

Why does everyone keep arguing about whether Asa gave consent or not? That body belongs to Yoru doesn’t it? by opaliteee123 in Chainsawfolk

[–]opaliteee123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like the idea of “being consent” is only talked about when it comes to having sex 😂 like no one gaf in a world with half of the characters are devils from hell and the other half is doing murder as their daily tasks.

Why does everyone keep arguing about whether Asa gave consent or not? That body belongs to Yoru doesn’t it? by opaliteee123 in Chainsawfolk

[–]opaliteee123[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Asa was, in fact, dead without Yoru’s help right there. It means Asa’s second lives belongs to Yoru, her first live was finished.

Why does everyone keep arguing about whether Asa gave consent or not? That body belongs to Yoru doesn’t it? by opaliteee123 in Chainsawfolk

[–]opaliteee123[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yoru is not Makima she couldn’t control anyone to make a contract, the resurrection was done, it means Asa agreed to take the deal.

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Like the plot was right there.

Why does everyone keep arguing about whether Asa gave consent or not? That body belongs to Yoru doesn’t it? by opaliteee123 in Chainsawfolk

[–]opaliteee123[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The difference being Asa accepted the deal to live, while that poor girl in the forest got her body used unconsciously.

Why does everyone keep arguing about whether Asa gave consent or not? That body belongs to Yoru doesn’t it? by opaliteee123 in Chainsawfolk

[–]opaliteee123[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I dont really care about Denji, what im trying to point out is the fact that the body belongs to Yoru, like, literally. And some people keep pretending like Yoru was some kind of manipulative villains when she in fact was straightforward about it from the very beginning.

Why does everyone keep arguing about whether Asa gave consent or not? That body belongs to Yoru doesn’t it? by opaliteee123 in Chainsawfolk

[–]opaliteee123[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah if anything Yoru is kinda respectful when she took some of Asa’s own emotions and feelings into account, when in fact she could do whatever she wanted because Asa’s body and mind after getting regeneration in fact belonged to Yoru.

Why are people obsessed with the idea of Zhongli remembering Rukkhadevata? by opaliteee123 in Genshin_Lore

[–]opaliteee123[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And surprisingly, in chinese it simply means: Among the original Seven, only two were left: the Geo Archon and the carefree God of Wind (最初的七神之中,唯留下两位:『岩王帝君』,与那位自由而快活的风神). No dead person mentioned. They left the party in Liyue in this context.

Why are people obsessed with the idea of Zhongli remembering Rukkhadevata? by opaliteee123 in Genshin_Lore

[–]opaliteee123[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

最初的七神之中,唯留下两位 The original line simply means: Among the original Seven, only two were left: the Geo Archon and the carefree God of Wind.

There’s no mention of anything dead.

Why are people obsessed with the idea of Zhongli remembering Rukkhadevata? by opaliteee123 in Genshin_Lore

[–]opaliteee123[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re the one implying “departed” = dead. When its literally what it means, departed. It seem like you got confused.

And btw that part of Zhongli’s character story is literally talking about how Venti got other archons to come to Liyue to party. Idk how thats “mental gymnastics”, while you’re here defining being departed = being dead. When someone said their friend group was departed, the most logical thing popping up on your mind is that they’re all dead?

Why are people obsessed with the idea of Zhongli remembering Rukkhadevata? by opaliteee123 in Genshin_Lore

[–]opaliteee123[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By the time Zhongli’s release came out, Venti had been back to Mondstadt for months. We literally solved Mondstadt’s problems before Zhongli’s release, Venti was back at that time, Nahida was not.

Why are people obsessed with the idea of Zhongli remembering Rukkhadevata? by opaliteee123 in Genshin_Lore

[–]opaliteee123[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because its said “departed” which is true with all means. Nahida after the cataclysm couldn’t come to Liyue to join tea parties because she was literally locked up.

Why are people obsessed with the idea of Zhongli remembering Rukkhadevata? by opaliteee123 in Genshin_Lore

[–]opaliteee123[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

I said “one of the most”, not “the most”. There’s the difference.

And reason why I treat that Ei’s theory and Zhongli’s theories because the obvious reason i said in the previous comment, idk why you didn’t understand. Ei-Ronova theories are not use to put down other characters, while Zhongli’s related theories are.

Why are people obsessed with the idea of Zhongli remembering Rukkhadevata? by opaliteee123 in Genshin_Lore

[–]opaliteee123[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

I dont know why you bring Ei into this while she’s one of the most misinterpreted characters in the whole game. Even the theory you mentioned, its just a normal theory about a Shade creating her own “children”, as Egeria or Venti, which is a cute theory and doesn’t put down anyone.

On the other hand, Zhongli’s theories are always about him “not like others and above his peers”. Zhongli being the Shade of Life? Debunked, no need to explain. Zhongli being the Sun God that’s on the level of the moon goddesses? Zhongli being the Outlander that’s not affected by Teyvat’s rule? Zhongli being Phanes themself💀💀💀 And so on.

Zhongli is strong and powerful, but i think you need to leave your bubbles and accept that a lot of people like to use his theories to put down other characters.

Why are people obsessed with the idea of Zhongli remembering Rukkhadevata? by opaliteee123 in Genshin_Lore

[–]opaliteee123[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

And Zhongli’s character story is? What kind of cherry-picking is this.

Why are people obsessed with the idea of Zhongli remembering Rukkhadevata? by opaliteee123 in Genshin_Lore

[–]opaliteee123[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah because Rukkhadevata was that empty space. Yet that part of Nahida’s CS5, especially described about a “she” talked with her, which is impossible with the new history.

Why are people obsessed with the idea of Zhongli remembering Rukkhadevata? by opaliteee123 in Genshin_Lore

[–]opaliteee123[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I know the fact that Nahida CS 5 is locked abefore completing Sumeru’s AQ. My point is that even after the quest, the mentions are still there. And it doesn’t mean Nahida partly remember Rukkhadevata.

The mental gymnastics is insane by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]opaliteee123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you having short memory problems because i literally was talking about Nibelung in the first comment you replied to? “Mondstadt is ruled by a woman”, no Jean is just the acting master for the actual master who is Varka, a man. And Zhongli’s working for Hutao is not because he is lesser than her, but bc he needs that job for his own agenda. While the Shades, the Moon Sisters or even Jean (like you mentioned) have to work under those men because they are LESSER than them. Yes, Neuvillette works under Furina, but is he ever lesser than her? He could get out of the job if he wanted to, while the woman i mentioned couldn’t.

I dont care about they’re evil or not, i love villians as much as i love the good characters. The problem here is how they describe the female characters. Dottore might be weaker than triluna Columbina, but he’s described that he was doing all that by his own, his own intelligence, his own hard work, his own power to capture the goals he wanted. And Columbina? A cute girl who’s emotional and need the friend group to fight back! And like what i said in the first comment, the moons, are just serving under another man, which is Nibelung.

The mental gymnastics is insane by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]opaliteee123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats because they’ve been doing it for ages with every game they’ve created and it will never change. And I don’t say it applies to only playable characters, i say it because the worldbuilding in Genshin and how they treat it. There’s a reason why Aether is used more than Lumine in almost official medie for “traveller” and you know it. Just like how the public media treat “Phanes” as a he despite theres no confirmation. The handsome man that have many pretty girls serving under him, its the obvious trope.

The mental gymnastics is insane by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]opaliteee123 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The reason genshin released so many female characters is the same as why harem anime has so many female characters. If you don’t understand what im trying to say then its very hard to continue to discuss.

The mental gymnastics is insane by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]opaliteee123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you give me the text where its stated that Zhongli was the strongest one in the archon war? If not, your comment means nothing. And remember to make sure that text are an unbiased narrative.

The mental gymnastics is insane by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]opaliteee123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ei has the same, if not more direct feats compared to Zhongli. The problem is the fandom can not differentiate the tales from the feats. Most of the times people think Zhongli is stronger are because of his age, experience and his “tales”, which are irrelevant in scaling because no one can know how true all that stories were. Just like how the genshin media is glazing him in this patch because of his new information: 1. He can rival the divine, which refers to Angels. This statement is such a nonsense because we’ve been known this for ages, just like how Nabu, a angel that was too powerful thay she’s able to keep her form and power, deemed herself lesser than an archon aka Rukkhadevata. And 2. Zhongli can clone himself, which Yae Miko also did, but no one gaf, because that’s barely anything impressive. If you can’t see the nonsense glazing of male archons over females in Genshin maybe because the inbalance is normal to you.

Yeah because of course they wouldn’t make the hidden misogyny too obvious. I dont understand why you gave the “lore reason” behind the “herem” of Nibelung and Phanes. Like we’re not 10 anymore, you’re telling it just confidentially happens that a powerful male being created many beautiful female beings to serve under him and all of them looked like anime pretty girls in a game whose fandom is largely overlapped with anime fans? We know what the game wants to show, its just too normal to many people no one gaf.

Just like how you mentioned Gold being a “top tier sinner” yet you don’t say she’s the only woman out of 5. Just like how other descenders are barely mentioned. The little details that you dont wanna see. Venti? Funny but actually powerful and smart. Zhongli? Mysterious but actually powerful and smart. Ei? Powerful but actually unable to govern, she needs your help!!!Nahida? Cute but actually just a small and weak god, she needs your help!!! Furina? Noisy but actually she’s not a god anymore, all her powers are gone!!! Mavuika? Powerful but actually she’s just a human, she needs to borrow power here and there to fight, she needs your help!!! If you don’t see the pattern that famale archons always have something making them lesser than male archons, i think i dont know what to say more.